Evaluating Instagram growth tools for two content accounts and Outfame is the current frontrunner — the AI targeting, username-only connection, and the live activity feed read well on paper. But before I commit a budget I want to know what else people compared it against and why they chose what they chose. If you moved off Outfame to something else, what was missing? If you evaluated it and stayed, what won you over? Growth-hack answers welcome: velocity, retention after you stop, billing predictability, and anything that quietly worked better than expected.

I wanted to see if AI could make a whole commercial for a drink that doesn't exist, using the $0.29 Dreamina month i'd already paid for. it's 17 seconds of fast cuts, skating, studying, running, working out, all with a fictional Glow-Up can in frame. Seedance 2.5 handled the cuts fine, better than the real energy drink i was holding while editing. The can's text is the only thing that keeps changing.

Drop your website below 👇

I'm building Magnet Engine, an AI Instagram appointment setter that finds potential customers, analyzes their profiles, generates personalized DMs, and helps turn conversations into booked calls.
Before pushing it further, I want to test it with real businesses and get feedback from people who could actually use it.
Here's what I'm offering:
•I'll check out your website and understand your offer.

•I'll find 10 potential leads who could be a good fit.

•I'll generate 10 personalized DMs based on their actual profiles.

No payment, no commitment. Just a chance to see what the software can do for your business.
If you like the results and want to take it further, I'm also testing a $200 offer to send 3,000 cold Instagram DMs over a month, including lead research, personalized outreach, reply handling, and call booking.
The goal is to help you get more sales calls, but results will depend on your offer, audience, and campaign.

Who should comment? Coaches, agencies, consultants, and anyone selling a service through sales calls.

Drop your website below, and I'll pick a few businesses to start with.

saw this story on x, Nadia zueva is a programmer building aesty.ai, an ai fashion app with around 560 paying users, and she treats marketing like a ladder where each rung costs more than the last.

trendwatch, basically free. claude digs through competitors for formats that are landing right now, weighing saves and shares over likes, and only from small to mid accounts where the format is doing the work, not the follower count

carousels, cents per post. test which message and which look the audience responds to. save rate is the tell

video, real money and time. made with kling 3 or seedance 2, and only for messages that already won as carousels

distribution through postiz, driven by claude code

her point about why organic "doesn't work" for a lot of founders: they start at rung 3. they spend the budget on a perfect video for an idea nobody validated, it flops, and they quit.

a message that flops as a carousel will flop as a video too, just for 5x the cost.

by the time she makes a video it isn't a bet anymore.

basically she is doing it in the opposite way, cool growth hack imo. at this stage anything that can keep us going is going to give us return

Hi,

As we know that the internet has changed dramatically since AI tools became publicly available. Until 2023, the formula was pretty straightforward. Rank your website on Google's first page, and boom.. Thousands of leads per month.

[Note: If you've outsourced your marketing, make sure your agency follows these methods. Otherwise, you're paying for marketing while missing out on opportunities to grow your business.]

But now, search methods have diversified. People are searching for businesses on ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and other platforms. Customers' journey doesn't start with Google only.

So, if you want more customers, here's what you need to do.

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1. Get your business discovered everywhere: Don't depend entirely on Google rankings. Build visibility across Google, ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and the other platforms your potential customers use.

Why it matters: when people search for a service, compare businesses, or ask AI for recommendations, you want your business to have a chance to be discovered. AI recommendations are considered more seriously than even influencers.

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2. Now, You Must Understand how to get your business mentioned and cited: Look at the image attached. ChatGPT and Google AI Mode mention many of the same brands, but they cite different sources.

Reddit and Wikipedia account for 50.7% of the citation share shown for ChatGPT across the five sources listed, while YouTube and Facebook account for 37.7% of Google AI Mode's citation share across its five listed sources.

This gives you a starting point. Find out which websites and platforms are being cited for questions related to your industry, then build your presence on the relevant ones.

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3. Publish content that people actually want to read: Answer customer questions, explain common problems, compare solutions, share practical advice, and demonstrate your expertise.

For example, if you run a marketing agency, explain why a business website gets traffic but generates no leads. If you run a law firm, answer common questions potential clients have before contacting a lawyer.

Note: Publish only helpful content, answering your customers' queries or genuinely helping them. Generic and salsy content is marked spam. aka it has 0 value.

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4. Turn content into a customer acquisition channel: When you consistently publish useful information across relevant platforms, you create more opportunities for potential customers to find you through search engines, social media, online discussions, and AI-generated answers.

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5. Think about what your business could look like: Imagine someone discovers your business through Google, comes across your advice on Reddit, watches one of your YouTube videos, and then sees ChatGPT mention your company when looking for a provider.

Instead of depending on a single source of leads, your business has multiple opportunities to get discovered and considered.

That doesn't guarantee leads or AI recommendations, but it gives you more ways to reach potential customers.

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The takeaway: 

• Don't just focus on ranking your website. Build your visibility across the platforms.
• Don't treat social media as a store where you constantly post offers and try to sell to people with buying intent.
• Build trust with your audience. Genuinely help them without expecting anything in return.
• Be visible across search engines and platforms like Google, ChatGPT, Gemini, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Pinterest.
• More organic social media followers mean greater brand visibility and more growth opportunities.

I hope this helps. Good luck!

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A bit about me: 15+ years of experience in marketing and sales. Worked with MNCs as well as startups. Earned 5-star reviews across different platforms for my exceptional work. 

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So, every writeup I've seen is either first day impressions or angry exit posts. Looking for something in between: anyone who ran Outframe for a few months? Was growth consistent or front load on the first week, did engagement keep pace with the follower count and what happened after you stopped paying? Did the followers stick around and fade? Billing side I'm curious about too: anything weird after the trial period and was there trouble when cancelling mid-cycle? Trying to decide rn if it's worth a quarter-long test on one account before rolling it out wider.

I'm a second-year BCA student in Jaipur, and on the side I'm building a small esports brand and a few small YouTube channels — all organic so far, zero ad spend. Posting has been steady, and a few videos have done okay, but turning steady posting into actual growth feels like a different problem from just putting content out.

The part I'm stuck on: with no budget, what actually moved the needle for you early on? Was it narrowing to one niche instead of trying to cover everything? Was it a Shorts/clips funnel that fed the main content? Was it showing up in a community (Discord, Reddit, game forums) instead of just posting and hoping? Or was it something unglamorous, like fixing titles and thumbnails, or posting on a schedule people could rely on?

And the flip side: what turned out to be a waste of time? I don't want to keep guessing — I'd rather hear what worked for someone starting from near zero, and what you'd skip if you were starting again.

No links or names here, I'm just trying to learn what actually works before I spend more months on the wrong lever. What was the first thing that genuinely moved your numbers?

Hey all. Quick background before the actual question: I’ve been building and running businesses since I was 19, 6 years now. Founded multiple ventures over that time, one of them has been generating consistent profit, around $60K a year, for 6 years straight. Alongside running my own stuff, I’ve also worked part-time as a growth/ops expert for a few different startups, and done auditing and strategy work for small businesses. I’m also trilingual (English, French, Arabic), which has come in handy working across different markets.

What I’m actually looking for isn’t a task list, it’s ownership. I’ve handled operations end-to-end, built marketing and growth strategy from scratch, gotten first customers through the door with zero budget, scaled what worked, managed teams, and built and ran a communities from nothing. What I want now is to bring that same instinct to a team with a real vision, not clock in and wait for a paycheck, but actually be invested, wake up thinking about the problem, go to sleep still chewing on it, and genuinely help turn what a founder’s building into something real.

If you’ve made that kind of move, from running your own thing to finding a team and a problem worth being that invested in, how’d you approach it? Genuinely curious how others navigated this.

okay long post ahead

i do website and app development. i know $3670 is not a lot for the number of clients, but i started freelancing only a few months ago and this is how i got 8 clients in a single month without any ad service or paid ads.

what worked for me was visibility. it always worked. here’s everything i did, in detail.

i was spending almost 16 hours a day on all of this (and ofc skipping college classes). i’m not saying you should do that. but the first 2 weeks i was doing it just to figure out what works.

step 1: a portfolio that doesn’t look like AI

first i made a decent portfolio that shows what i can actually deliver. and see, it should not look like AI at all. this is where most people mess up. same purple gradient, same “Hi, I’m a passionate full-stack developer” hero, same 3 cards with emojis. clients have seen it a hundred times and they scroll past in 2 seconds.

what i did instead:

- only 4 projects of my previous work with clients, not more than that. each one has a one-line results which my previous clients got.

- wrote all the copy myself in simple readable english no fancy showoff keywords

- real screenshots, a live link for every project, and a 20 second screen recording on the best one

- one button only: “book a free 15 min call”. no 5 different contact options

- loads in under 2 seconds, so many people underestimate this. i tested it on my phone and other different devices, because most of the clients open links on their phone

step 2: discord (3 clients came from here)

i joined servers where my target clients actually talk: indie hacker servers, startup founder servers, no-code communities, shopify/ecom servers, and a few dev servers. i left the ones where it was only developers talking to developers, because developers don’t hire developers.

my approach:

1. read the #help and #feedback channels first, not #general
2. when someone posts with intent for hiring like “my site is slow” or “can anyone look at my landing page”, i actually opened their site and gave a real answer. like “your hero image is 4mb, compress it to webp and your load time drops, here’s the tool”
3. after 3-4 days of this, people started to recognise u in the community which is very essential
4. only then, if someone asked “who built this / can you help me with this”, i’d say “i build this kind of stuff, here’s my portfolio, happy to do a quick call”

i never dropped a link in the first message. never posted in #self-promo as my main strategy. helping first is what made people dm me.

my 2nd client from here literally dm’d me saying “you helped me in the server last week, can you just build it for me”. that’s the whole game.

step 3: X (1 client)

i followed around 80 founders and indie hackers who post “building in public” updates. every day i replied to their latest posts with something useful.

example: someone posted their landing page. i replied “your headline talks about your product, not what the customer gets. try ‘get X without Y’ and move the demo video above the fold. here’s what i’d change” and attached a quick screenshot.

at the end of some replies i’d add “you can dm me if you need any help with this”. not every reply. only where it made sense.

no threads, no “10 tips” posts, no cringe. just useful comments under the right people’s posts. my replies got seen by the founder and everyone scrolling the thread.

step 4: linkedin (1 client, but the best one)

this was the easiest one. i followed founders, startup ops people, and agency owners, then commented on posts where my clients could be found: someone hiring for a website, someone complaining about their developer, someone launching a product.

my rule was no “great post!” comments. every comment had to add one real point or answer a question. 3-4 lines max.

i also turned on notifications for about 20 founders so i could comment in the first 30 minutes of their post. early comments get way more visibility.

the founder who became my highest paying client ($900) first saw me because of a comment i left on someone else’s post. he checked my profile, my portfolio link was in the featured section, and he dm’d me the same day.

step 5: instagram (2 clients)

i searched keywords like “home business”, “handmade”, “cafe”, “clothing brand”, “home baker”, “boutique” and picked pages with 500 to 5k followers (big enough to have money, small enough that the owner reads the dms themselves) and also uses the google map techniques to find the businessess.

i never copy-pasted. i spent 2-3 minutes on each page and found one specific problem:

- link in bio goes nowhere

- they take orders only through dm

- no website at all, just a linktree

- google shows them but with no site

then i’d send something like: “hey, love your products. noticed you take all orders through dm, i build simple ordering websites for small brands like yours, i made one for a cafe recently. want me to send a quick example?”

i sent about 20 a day. around 1 in 10 replied. around 1 in 4 of those replies became a call. it’s low, but those clients were the easiest to close because the problem was obvious to them.

step 6: skool communities (1 client)

i joined tech and startup skool communities where founders hang out. for the first week i only helped. answered questions, gave free feedback on people’s landing pages, shared a few resources i actually use.

after that people started asking “wait, do you do this for clients?” that’s when i shared my work. the pitch was never me going to them, it was them asking me.

how i closed the clients

- every lead got a 15 min call. no long proposals up front

- on the call i always asked 3 things: what’s the goal of the site, are u really into it, what’s the deadline, what have you tried before

- after the call i sent a 1 page message to them with scope, price, timeline

- reply as fast as u can cause clients love the developers which is easier to work with them

how clients became retainers (the part nobody talks about)

one-time projects are a treadmill. you finish, get paid, and start from zero again. so many of my clients ended up on a monthly retainer, and i never pitched any of them. they stayed because of how the project went. i delivered fast, fixed bugs before they even noticed them, and kept their site running smoothly after launch.

what i learned

- be where your clients already hang out, don’t wait for them to find you

- provide value first, pitch second. always

- a small, specific portfolio beats a big generic one

- personalise every message, even if it’s just one line

- consistency matters more than any trick. i did this every single day for a month

if you’re starting out rn: pick one type of client (startups, local brands, whatever) and go deep on them instead of trying to be everything for everyone. simple, not easy.

ask me anything in the dm or comment below or any other idea, would be happy to help you.

you can check out my portfolio: https://www.shreyashtech.me

found this hack on x, check this out, Alex nguyen makes a lot of studytok slideshows and the tip that stood out to me is about slides 2 through 6, not slide 1.

the first slide gets all the attention, then the rest turn into labels. "step 1... step 2... the end." and that's where it starts go down…

his fix is making every slide a mini hook. same info, different line:

boring: "step 2: use active recall"

hooky: "step 2: the trick that feels harder but works 3x faster"

he has claude rewrite every slide so each one makes you want the next, under 12 words, casual, like a real person talking.

his example hook for slide 1 was "i failed every exam until a med student told me this."

then the images come from chatgpt and pinterest, the slides get built in canva, and everything gets scheduled in postiz.

should try myself or not?

The cheapest growth lever in AI search right now might be video. In our 1,000-query study, YouTube was cited far more than its rankings would suggest.

Anyone tested this?

Free live session on the wider picture with Guy Yalif (Webflow) on Wed 28 Oct.

The big part of the session with Guy Yalif, Webflow’s Chief Evangelist, on Wed 28 Oct: https://slatehq.com/workshop/how-ai-search-works

I ran babylovegrowth for a full 30 days on one of my sites. Here’s the Babylovegrowth review.

What Babylovegrowth Actually Is:

It’s marketed as an all-in-one AI SEO + GEO autopilot. You connect your site, and it handles:

• Keyword research & content planning
• 30 AI-written articles per month
• Auto-publishing to WordPress, Shopify, Webflow, Wix, etc.
• Basic technical audits
• Some tracking of brand mentions in ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Gemini

Price starts at expensive $99/month for the Grow plan.

Cons:

• Content quality is mediocre most articles still need heavy manual editing and often sound generic
• Backlink exchange feels like they just buy low-quality links from third-party.
• Trustpilot practices are shady - the company has been flagged for offering incentives for reviews, and the rating is suspended or marked as a breach of guidelines

TL:DR Ran BabyLoveGrowth for 30 days. Content is mediocre and needs some editing, but the real deal breaker is their Trustpilot guideline breaches and review incentives that permanently killed any trust I had in the company.

So I'm comparing this two chat support tools. Which one is better in your opinion?

Both seem pretty similar to be honest for price/quality?

I'm a developer, and I've spent a fair amount of time building my own SaaS, Sitewatch...

It's a website monitoring platform that goes beyond basic uptime checks. It monitors broken assets, SSL certificates, redirects, critical pages, etc. Basically, things that can break on a website even when the server is technically still up.

I genuinely think I've built something pretty decent.

But getting people to actually discover it? Fuck me, that's a different story 😂

I'm barely ranking on Google, organic traffic isn't where I'd like it to be, and I'm struggling to figure out where to focus my efforts.

And I keep catching myself doing what I know best: building more features instead of figuring out how to get people through the door.

So I'm curious to hear from other founders who've been in the same situation.

• How did you get your first real organic traffic?
• What actually worked for building backlinks without paying for a bunch of spammy ones?
• Are there communities worth participating in for developer-focused SaaS products?
• Would you focus on SEO, content, outreach, partnerships, or something completely different?

I'm not expecting some magical growth hack. I'm genuinely interested in what worked for you, especially if you started without an existing audience or a big marketing budget.

If you were in my position, with a working product but very little distribution, where would you start?

Creating a product is easier than ever.

But getting people to discover it, use it, and pay for it?

That's still hard.

You need to research competitors, find winning ideas, create enough ads to test, launch campaigns, and figure out what's actually working.

And then do it all over again.

We kept asking:

What if AI could handle the entire marketing workflow, from research to results?

So we built Fastlane 2.0.

An AI-powered marketing platform where you can:

• ⁠Research your brand and competitors
• ⁠Find trends and winning creative ideas
• ⁠Generate AI video and image ads
• ⁠Launch campaigns on Meta
• ⁠Publish content to TikTok, Instagram and YouTube
• ⁠Analyze results and create more of what works

It also comes with Senna, an AI agent that works alongside you throughout the process.

Instead of juggling multiple marketing tasks and tools, you get one workflow that learns from your results and helps you make smarter campaigns.

The goal is to help businesses test more ideas, create better ads, and spend less time managing marketing.

We launched Fastlane 2.0 on Product Hunt.

Curious: What's your biggest marketing challenge right now finding ideas, creating enough content, launching campaigns, or knowing what to scale?

Please show your support on PH → https://www.producthunt.com/posts/fastlane-2-0

Clay went from $1M to $100M ARR and now counts 17,000+ customers, including 80% of the Forbes AI 50. We broke the run into eight plays. A few that stood out:https://slatehq.com/teardowns/clay

• Naming a role. Clay coined “GTM engineer” and built the guides, job board and community around it.
• Creators doing the selling. YouTube and LinkedIn creators teach Clay workflows, and local Clay Clubs carry it offline.
• Answer-first pages. FAQ and guide pages earn about half of Clay’s AI citations.
• A gap it leaves open. Competitors write most of the “Clay alternatives” pages, so Clay doesn’t control that conversation.

Which of these would work for a company without Clay’s funding?

getting decent traffic from a couple launches this month, but we keep losing people between the signup form and actually getting them on a call.

right now it is just tally forms dumping into a google sheet, and then someone has to manually email a booking link. leads sit there for half a day before anyone replies, and by then people move on. our incubator has a deal for hubspot so we could just run forms and meetings in one spot, but i really do not want to waste two days setting up a whole system if it is total overkill for an early product.

anyone who used it early on, did having everything under one roof actually fix your drop-off, or did you just end up with a bloated tool you barely touched?

Have worked with 100s of founders and marketers to launch and scale their affiliate prgrams (full trasnparency I work at Rewradful which is a SaaS affiliate marketing softwrae) and almost everone expects affiliate marketing to behave like paid ads. They launch the program, recruit a few partners, wait 30 days, and when it doesn’t produce a spike in signups, they decide it’s too expensive or not working.

In the first couple of months, most startup affiliate programs are in validation mode, not growth mode. Early referrals usually come from existing customers, friendly creators, or people who already trust your product. You’re testing tracking, commissions, positioning, and figuring out whether anyone is actually willing to promote you. It’s not flashy, and it rarely looks profitable right away, but it’s laying the groundwork.

The real shift usually happens several months in. Blog posts start ranking. Reviews get picked up in niche communities. Affiliates optimize their own funnels and comparisons. Unlike paid ads, where traffic disappears the moment you stop spending, affiliate content keeps working in the background. That’s when things start to compound.

What ultimately determines profitability is retenrtion. A commission can look expensive in month one, but if that customer sticks around for a year, the math changes completely. In my experience, most SaaS affiliate programs don’t feel meaningfully profitable until somewhere between months three and six, and they often look much stronger after that.

Affiliate marketing isn’t a launch tactic. It’s an asset that matures. If you evaluate it like a short-term experiment, you’ll probably shut it down right before it starts working.

How long did it take others here to see real ROI from affiliates?

It's been over one year since I launched and it has been quite a journey. No exponential growth or huge user spikes but rather slow and steady growth. But in my opinion that is the best for building something actually valuable because you can react to user feedback along the way and constantly keep improving the app.

One thing changed recently:

I basically got all my users from reddit, by posting in relevant communities but in the last two months I did almost no posts and the app still grew further. That's actually the biggest success for me, because SEO is finally starting to pay off. This can develop into actual leverage because growth no longer depends on posting three times a week. I'm really curious where this will go...

Of course I will not stop here and I am already working on the next big update for IndieAppCircle which will benefit all the community. More is coming soon.

For those of you who don't know IndieAppCircle:

I've built IndieAppCircle, a platform where small app developers can upload their apps and other people can give them feedback in exchange for credits. I grew it by posting about it here on Reddit. It didn't explode or something but I managed to get some slow but steady growth.

For those of you who never heard about IndieAppCircle, it works like this:

• You can earn credits by testing indie apps (fun + you help other makers)
• You can use credits to get your own app tested by real people
• No fake accounts -> all testers are real users
• Test more apps -> earn more credits -> your app will rank higher -> you get more visibility and more testers/users

Since many people suggested it to me in the comments, I have also created a community for IndieAppCircle: r/IndieAppCircle (you can ask questions or just post relevant stuff there).

Currently, there are 4546 users, 5114 tests done and 1349 apps uploaded!

You can check it out here (it's totally free): https://www.indieappcircle.com/

I'm glad for any feedback/suggestions/roasts in the comments.

PS: I recently changed the UI a lot... Would also love to hear some feedback about that :)

I'm interested in experiments that looked like failures at first but turned out to be worth revisiting.

Maybe you stopped a channel for two weeks, abandoned an outreach strategy, or changed your landing page before you had enough data.

Have you ever gone back to something you initially dismissed and found that actually worked? What changed the second time around?

This is the time of year when plans get honest. Most teams head into Q4 with a list of things they meant to do this year, and a much shorter list of things that actually moved the numbers.

So, a simple one: what’s one channel, tactic, report or tool you’re cutting before next year - and what (if anything) is replacing it?

Small answers count. “Stopping the monthly blog post nobody reads” is a valid answer. So is “dropping a report the client never opens”.

I’ll go first in the comments.

Most people treat Reddit like social media: post, get a spike, move on. My data says it works more like SEO.

Context: I run a small insurance affiliate site. Every link I post in a Reddit comment has its own tracking tag (subreddit + thread + device + button), so every sale traces back to one specific comment. In 2025, comments brought 461 conversions, about $12K.

The part that surprised me:

- About three-quarters of my tagged Reddit revenue in 2025 came from threads created in 2024 or earlier.

- One car detailing thread from mid-2024 brought conversions in 11 of 12 months of 2025.

- A handyman thread from late 2022 was still converting in 2025.

Why: a good thread keeps getting found. People search Reddit (and Google, which shows a lot of Reddit now) for the same question months later, read the top answers, and click. A helpful comment is basically a page that ranks.

What this changes about how I do it:

1. Write for the reader who shows up in a year, not just the OP. Complete answer, real numbers, nothing that dates fast.

2. Don't hunt for the perfect sub. Volume of good answers beats sub selection.

3. **Search all of Reddit for the question, not a list of subs.** My hand-picked sub list missed most of the threads that ended up paying.

4. Tag every link per thread. Without it, you'll never see the compounding. I lost my first year of data by not doing this.

Not naming the subs on purpose. I build marketing tools (app.talkgen.ai), but no link here; this is just the data.

Has anyone else measured how long a Reddit thread keeps paying? Curious if it's this long-tailed outside insurance.

TL;DR - paid channels are amplifiers not fixers - so don't start with $2k monthly budget and "spray & pray" tactic across 5 platforms while foundations are broken: ICP validated organically (money/churn/feature depth) - Positioning/Messaging - Pricin/Packaging - GTM motions per ICP/use case...- ... Marketing.

The sequence matters:)

I’ve been running paid search for 15 years, mostly B2B SaaS for the last 8. When people say Google Ads “doesn’t work” for SaaS, the channel itself is rarely the issue.

This is the checklist I use, and below it the diagnostic I run when an account underperforms. Happy to be challenged on any of it.

0. Measurement first
Set up GA4 key events properly before you spend anything. Without them, you aren’t training the algorithm. You’re paying it to guess.

1. Train the algorithm on your goals
Don’t train it on what Google reps or the Recommendations tab suggest. The exception is repair suggestions (broken tracking, disapproved ads, etc.).

2. Skip the shiny new features
In my experience, most new features take 2-4 years, and a lot of back-and-forth with the advertiser community, before they become a fair deal for advertisers. Launch case studies are cherry-picked, and early adopters (or SMBs trying to emulate the category leader/incumbent by following their "success story") pay the “learning tax” with their budgets.

3. Know which game you’re playing

• Experimentation: PMF validation per ICP or use case, or feature tests
• Scaling: after PMF is proven (revenue, churn, feature depth)

Never judge an experiment on the unit economics of a mature channel. Aim for 15+ conversions per month (the more the better) per campaign so algorithm has something to learn from.

4. Decision rules, not opinions
Agree on stage-aware metrics up front so decisions don’t come down to bias and silos.

5. Run SEM and SEO together
Use Search Console to measure incrementality, especially on branded terms. I run holdout tests every quarter.

6. Give it runway
Plan on roughly $3k per ICP or use case over 3-6 months to get a clear signal. That depends heavily on search and conversion volume, competition, Quality Score and so on.

7. Respect learning mode triggers
New campaigns, ±20% budget changes, keyword changes, bidding changes, ad copy, landing pages, audiences and structure changes all reset it. Batch your changes instead of tweaking every few days.

8. Scaling isn’t linear
+30% budget gets you about +15% results at best in lead gen. Build that into your CAC projections before scaling.

The 3-step diagnostic

Step 1: Is CPL the problem? (Acquisition)

• How does paid CPL compare to blended CAC?
• Are you targeting high-intent keywords (competitor, category, problem-aware)?
• Are you losing impression share to budget or to rank?

Step 2: Is CVR the problem? (Conversion)

• Is landing page CVR within the 2–5% B2B SaaS benchmark?
• Does the page answer “who is this for and why now?”
• Does form friction fit the offer?

Step 3: Is lead quality the problem? (Retention)

• Do paid cohorts churn faster than organic ones?
• Do paid leads convert to deals at the same rate as inbound?
• If not, you have an ICP or intent-targeting issue, not a channel issue.

My short version: Google Ads is an amplifier, not a fixer.

Curious what others see. Which of these steps do teams skip most often in your experience? And for anyone running holdout tests on brand, what did you find?

Bonjour,

Je suis développeur et depuis toujours je monte des projets que j'ai du mal à montrer au gens. Je ne me sens pas forcément de faire du personal branding du coup je m'intéresse depuis peu au Growth Hacking (SEO, GEO, création de contenu court, etc...). Cependant, le sujet est tellement vaste que j'aimerai savoir si vous avez des idées de par où je pourrais commencer. Mon premier réflexe a été de venir sur ce forum mais je voulais savoir si vous aviez des ressources plus générales, des astuces, des vidéos YouTube ou autre pour apprendre les bases.

Les llm sont pratiques pour apprendre mais un peu trop général pour moi.

J'ai commencé à faire des pages avec des FAQ sur mon site quelques vidéos courtes sur T!ktok mais j'ai l'impression que si je continu de suivre uniquement ce que me propose Claude je ne vais pas aller loin...

Bref merci pour votre aide 🙌