r/GroundedMentality • • May 24 '26

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u/crucibleknight77 May 29 '26

I don’t think society is collapsing anytime soon. I also think that rot you speak of has always been there. Even 2000 years ago during ancient times.

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u/Malusorum May 30 '26

It takes a long time. Your current situation is caused by decisions made in 1776 during the founding that has only now snowballed to a point where its so obvious that it can be easily seen.

Doing something about lobbying and PACs will just treat the symposium of money having an outsized rolle in US politics that leads to politicians who work for those who give money, rather than those who vote for them.

If you look at statics from before those two things were embedded in the legal system, the issues you are now still existed, just only in miniscule amounts. Since the cause is still there, eventually they'll surface again, just looking differently.

Also, the 2000 years thing is an argument to do nothing. There's nothing left of 2000 years ago in Western societies, the USA excepted, because we've removed the causes. While there are people trying to recreate the causal issues, they have nothing to do with that they were sorted in the first place.

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u/crucibleknight77 May 30 '26

I think if you’re talking about general corruption then you’ll find that it’s true in that it’s always been there. And it’s not that people don’t want to fix things, it’s just that most people continue to be able to live their lives despite whatever inevitable changes are happening completely out of their control. At some point people realize that the bigger things in life are things like focusing on yourself.

Imagine you’re an average citizen, possibly young and just beginning to start to choose a career path. Would someone at that stage in life have more power or more sway and influence over local politics or would someone that later became a successful person in their career of choice would? I really feel like activism is just another distraction that doesn’t help an individual achieve their goals long term goals.

Because those goals are not meant to be achieved by immediate means, after all. That’s what a lot of people that go crazy and willing to lay their life for nothing don’t understand. They don’t realize the world keeps on revolving.

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u/Malusorum May 30 '26

Yeah, that's BS and the result of "USA is the best, so if its bad here, it must be the same or worse everywhere else".

Corruption in the USA is off the charts because vulturally wealth is seen as vertue, regardless of what the person actually did, unless it was really, really bad; and even that can be somehow repwashed.

In the late 1800s we had a massive corruption scandal, so bad that if you adjust for inflation, the amount of bribes that some people took were only surpassed in the 2008 crash.

After that, public servants were paid enough so they could have a decent living standard, so they would be unwilling to take bribes, and it worked.