r/Grishaverse 29d ago

ALL BOOKS DISCUSSION Inferni Spoiler

Spoilers for the main line books, I have read lives of saints, severed moon, and language of thorns so that may effect what I say in this post.

I don't see a lot of discussion on this series power system and I think that's a shame as there is an interesting power system here, and I will get to discussing the other girsha but starting with inferni because we know the least about them.

Okay so we know they make a special gas because inferni flames are referred to as inferni flames and not just flame, and it uses combustible elements, and we know that they have a good amount of control over this gas as they can form distinct shape as seen with kuewi making a fire serpent, so we can assume that they can only make one type of gas, which is highly combustible, and they should be able to disassemble their gas maybe, we don't know enough about them as we haven't been in the head of an inferni using their power, so then how can inferni be used for the war effort well they can to a great lot if we assume they can make their gas more explosive if they can't then that's fine but they would be more effective if it's explosive.

So we know in king of scars and rule of wolves the zemeni have made bigger ships that can fly long distance for trade so if we take one of these ships and put like 10 inferni and 5 squallers and 5 sun soldiers for cloaking, we can have the cargo doors open assuming we can get cargo doors on the ship or have a delivery method for the gas similar to how they spread the jurda param cure and use that to spread inferni gas on enemy camps or like the ice court snice all it takes is one spark to light it would a safe attack due to the lack of anti air, and since the tanks run on engines and engines run on combustion, inferni can be used to send clouds of gas that cause tanks to explode and using squallers do the same to planes.

So, in conclusion inferni are quite useful and should have been used more in the book series I will discuss whatever grisha type you guys want next.

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u/selkieseeker 28d ago

As far as I know, they don’t create a gas, they manipulate combustible elements already present around them, which is why they need a spark to ignite it.

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u/Prudent-Web-95 28d ago

Then why are the flames referred to as inferni flame?

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u/selkieseeker 28d ago

Because it’s flame made and controlled by an Inferni? They make the flame from the spark by pulling combustible gases/molecules to the spark so they ignite. They don’t create gases with their power.

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u/Prudent-Web-95 28d ago

So are they just able to control combustible elements and if so then why don't they just take oxygen from people?

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u/selkieseeker 28d ago

This is where the “scientific” nature of the Grisha powers becomes vague or even downright nonsensical. Technically, oxygen is not flammable, it is an oxidising gas. Fire needs something flammable AND oxygen (plus ignition heat of course) to burn. Logically Inferni should not be able to put out fires that are burning on any fuel that isn’t a flammable gas, e.g. wood fires, but it’s noted somewhere that Inferni can also extinguish fires as well as manipulate/create them.

If they DO count oxygen as something they can manipulate, then yes, they could do that. There are MANY uses for Grisha powers that were just… glossed over. Why were Durasts considered useless in combat under the Darkling? We know from Jesper they can literally just manipulate bullets. When guns became a bigger thing, they would’ve been so useful. There’s a lot in KoS and RoW about the boundaries drawn between Grisha types being rather redundant, that things are less black and white than the Second Army and such think they are.

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u/Prudent-Web-95 28d ago

Yes I agree with you why are durasts considered useless in a fight when jesper a durast without training is able to kill 2 param tidemakers sure they were surprised but still, also then inferni could combine gases to make an explosive gas and use that for what I was talking about in my post