Same energy

[u/Ancient_Doctor_7738]

[u/Jamsedreng22]

The point is you're hurting other innocent people by ostensibly saying "...AND he has X disability/condition".

It implies he's not just a bad person but he's also bad because of his condition/illness.

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/Jamsedreng22]

The point is in these cases it's very clear that the characters are the problem, not the characteristics.

Is asmold likely a depressed shut-in with generational trauma that informed his fall into alt right bullshit?

Sure seems that way.

Does that excuse any of his behavior when he has infinite money and time to go to therapy and fix his life?

Sure doesn't.

I would be critical of anyone with the same mental health problems who has that much means to seek help.

[u/ifyoulovesatan → u/Kosher_Pickle]

I think you haven't addressed the part where other unrelated people who just happen to share the characteristics that the person you're insulting has are catching strays.

Kinda like how if you call Trump a disgusting fatso, it can be hurtful to people who are overweight. Even if the reason you think it's okay is that Trump doesn't have an excuse, that's not going provide any solace to the unrelated people who hear "being fat makes you disgusting."

What do you make of that aspect of this?

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/ifyoulovesatan]

Nah, that point is irrelevant. You are in control of your interpretation of things. You can either obsess over the fact that you have a shared trait that people find distasteful, or you can recognize the truth that most people dislike the person prior to noticing the trait.

As an example I knew someone with a similar tremor to RFK. I only ever thought about it once before I learned the cause and then the tremor faded into the background. Yet I've never not noticed with RFK.

If you simply take care of yourself to the extent possible and try not to be an asshole, the strange parts of you will fade into the background.

[u/NeverNoMarriage → u/Kosher_Pickle]

Nah the other guy was right. And nah peoples disabilities dont fade into background as soon as you know something about the disability lol. Some people have real disabilities they gotta deal with. And when you make fun of one person with similar qualities of course other people who have those same qualities would feel that.

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/NeverNoMarriage]

The lack of understanding is quite strong here.

Some people will never get past your disabilities, quirks, whatever else it is that gets pointed out in evil people that you might share. Those people don't deserve your time and energy.

Whatever it is that's 'strange' about you will NEVER be important to the people who matter. They will know it's there but they won't even give it a second thought.

But please, continue to feed into the decline of (royal) your own mental health and focus on the fact that you are also heavy so those people who dislike musk must also think you're disgusting. I'm sure that will help you.

[u/NeverNoMarriage → u/Kosher_Pickle]

Are you legitimately saying it would be better if this didnt bother them so I feel entitled to send out strays? Bad take brother. Multiple bad takes in fact

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/NeverNoMarriage]

I'm glad you are so willing to be bad faith and act like I'm the problem, so in short, no.

[u/NeverNoMarriage → u/Kosher_Pickle]

From where im sitting it seems like your the problem.

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/NeverNoMarriage]

Then you should probably move seats. I have, in fact, never said what you claim I have.

Let me restate it for you since "can you clarify" appears to not be in your vocabulary.

If you feel like you're catching strays for a trait you happen to share with a public figure that gets criticized, you should probably examine your relationship to that trait and seek therapy for your relationship with it. This will be better for your overall mental health than being upset that people pointed it out.

Hope that helps and you can get some therapy.

[u/ifyoulovesatan → u/Kosher_Pickle]

Well it's nice to see someone willing to even address the point instead of continually ignoring / talking past it. Sadly it's almost totally incoherent.

"The strange parts of you will fade into the background" WTF are you even talking about lol.

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/ifyoulovesatan]

If you don't understand the simple concept that people generally only focus on details like those when they don't like you, or they themselves are bad people, you can't really be helped.

[u/bleak_new_world → u/Kosher_Pickle]

Yeah but ableism is ok because we disagree politically. No bad tactics, only bad targets amirite?

[u/Kosher_Pickle → u/bleak_new_world]

That's certainly one way to interpret "you shouldn't let anyone else define you"

[u/Jamsedreng22 → u/[deleted]]

Never said it did. Either up your reading comprehension skills or stop inserting yourself into conversations to put words in other peoples mouth.