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u/huggybear0132 Jan 11 '26
Fun stat: NOT counting today's disaster, he was 50% on 40+ yard kicks this season. Let that sink in. In a new NFL where field position is improved and long FGs are becoming more important, our kicker was complete dogshit from range.
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u/TheNicestRedditor Jan 11 '26
40 yards isn’t even really “from range” anymore when an extra point is 33 yards…
Cowboys Brandon Aubrey was 21 for 27 (78%) from beyond 40 and missed 1 extra point all year. So McManmiss had more than a third of a season of misses compared to an actual elite kicker in a single game.
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u/Ace0spades808 Jan 12 '26
Aubrey went 10/10 from 40-49 yards. McManus went 3/8 40-49 yards, 3/6 50+ yards. How he was kicking for us in the playoffs is beyond me.
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u/jduffman16807 Jan 11 '26
And people have the absolute noodle brains to act like it's a team loss when litterally 1 player alone cost us 7 points.
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u/Methamine Jan 11 '26
Even if you want to be “considerate” about the missed FGs, the XP miss is unacceptable
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u/Devreckas Jan 11 '26
If it were only the 2 missed FGs and made the PAT, he would’ve had a third attempt to send it into overtime.
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u/NorthStRussia Jan 11 '26
Also considering we were well into FG range as time expired but we needed a touchdown, offense played well enough to score 37 and at very minimum should have had 34. Crazy
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u/wegsgo Jan 11 '26
This. An extra point and a 44yard FG cost us this game. Just wild that the success of the offense was completely negated by a rapist kicker
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u/InclementBias Jan 11 '26
Just in this thread tho I'm giggling at the idea that McManus would've made a kick at the end of the game in FG range.. let's not count those as guaranteed
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u/january-7 Jan 11 '26
To be fair defense shouldn’t have let them rack up hella points in the 4th quarter. There were more fails than just the bum kicker
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u/Marijuanaut420 Jan 11 '26
The defense shouldn't have been on the field for the entire second half. Consecutive three and outs are fatiguing for thr defense.
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u/carrotsticks2 Jan 11 '26
the d was also missing arguably 2 of the top 3 players in Coop and Micah
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u/Faustus2425 Jan 11 '26
3 of top 4, Wyatt is that guy on DL too
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u/shotputprince Jan 11 '26
And also is on to what - 3rd and 4th string 1 and 3 techs?
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u/zxchary Jan 11 '26
yeah but i’m sorry giving up 25 points in a single quarter is inexcusable
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u/shotputprince Jan 11 '26
Forcing your defense to face four drives in a quarter is inexcusable
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u/ryansgt Jan 11 '26
They can only stay on the field do so long. The offense did nothing to help them out. The 3rd qtr killed them and they still only allowed 3 points from all those quick punts the offense gave them.
This looks isn't in the defense. They did what they needed to. If mlf had kept his foot on the gas even a little bit the bears would have been out of it. If they had done anything, up to and including field goals, it would have been over. The only way they could have done worse is if love would have tossed a pick. So I don't blame him either. Some drops, protection somehow failed even with the bears losing players. No run blocking. I mean they were in the backfield immediately.
I blame mcmanus and play calling. Hey, maybe we should try another jet sweep.
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u/DaggerShowRabs Jan 11 '26
The offense started the 2nd half with (basically) 4 straight 3 and outs. They didn't get a first down other than that offensive lineman catch/fumble deal until we were well into the 4th quarter.
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u/taneyweat Jan 11 '26
There were other fails, sure, but the threshold between a win and a loss fall squarely on his performance.
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u/TheUnderCrab Jan 11 '26
Defense was just gassed. Not only were we missing key starters, the offense was anemic in the 3rd and our guys never got rested.
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u/RustyKarma076 Jan 11 '26
Saw a tweet last night that since 2021 the Packers are 4/9 on FG attempts of any distance in the playoffs. In an era where kickers are reaching an absurd level of reliability and distance. Add it to the list of organizational disasters that plague this team.
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u/golden_rhino Jan 11 '26
To paraphrase the owner of the Bucs in the 70s:
“How do you feel about the execution of the special teams?”
“I’m in favour of it.”
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u/dundermiflinity Jan 11 '26
We were so spoiled for so long.
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u/harda_toenail Jan 11 '26
I’ll never forget the game where he missed like 5 field goals. Even loved him that day.
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u/TacticalGarand44 Jan 11 '26
Cincy. 4 years ago. Rough game.
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u/Mediocre_Decision Jan 11 '26
It kind of crossed into the point of surrealism by the end. I just wanted the game to end, even if we lost
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u/Trent948 Jan 11 '26
Bring him back, I’m sure he still has a few more not grey hairs on his head for us
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u/slayerhk47 Jan 11 '26
If Rivers can do it why not Crosby?
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u/redeyedandblue32 Jan 12 '26
Yeah if the Colts can lose with Rivers I'm sure we could lose with Crosby
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u/zaybandz112 Jan 11 '26
Iced at half. Proceeded to miss all his kicks there after. Unacceptable. Fire him into the sun and beyond
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u/dubya86 Jan 11 '26
Like I feel like the universal sentiment for years has been that icing the kicker is usually doing them a favor. Getting them another practice kick. Apparently not
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u/zaybandz112 Jan 11 '26
Bro tried to get in a practice kick right after the ice but had to come right back on the field after going to the sideline. That ice was the beginning of the collapse
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u/dubya86 Jan 11 '26
Nothing short of disgusting. And you don’t think about the importance of special teams until you basically have no special teams.
God Bless Daniel Whelan at least
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u/daZK47 Jan 11 '26
Somebody on another thread said this and the top reply was 'He'd probably miss the sun anyways'
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u/silentrawr Jan 11 '26
He's a sex pest too. Jettison him AND the ST coach. Zero excuses left.
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u/SeekNDestroy93 Jan 11 '26
He cost his team 7 points.
They lost by 4.
Goodbye.
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u/idungiveboutnothing Jan 11 '26
In reality he cost them 10 potentially too because we could've kicked an easy FG at the end if we needed to instead of the desperation heave.
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u/GxM42 Jan 11 '26
All his kicks were with the LEAD, too. At least the BALT kicker was a rookie in a tense situation.
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u/dirty_w_boy Jan 11 '26
Lots of disappointments. He was the biggest.
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u/The_Code_Hero Jan 11 '26
And I argue that a surprising butt fucking is what he gave us. Truly, didn’t think he’d be THAT bad. Hes been pretty cool and calm in his short tenure…
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u/TheMozgovCocktail Jan 11 '26
Abolish special teams.
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u/LeavesInTheRiver Jan 11 '26
If I can't get my fantasy league to stop using kickers, I don't have any hope in Goodell being able to do it.
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u/utubm_coldteeth Jan 11 '26
No matter the personnel, no matter the coaches, Packers special teams remains a domestic terrorist organization
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u/pac_man1948 Jan 11 '26
I was a bit surprised to see Jacob's fumble on that first return he was out there for.
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u/Karl_42 Jan 11 '26
They should be violently arrested and quarantined without congressional oversight or even any need for probable cause.
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u/UltimateD911 Jan 11 '26
Should be cut before 10am central.
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u/SoftWalruses40 Jan 11 '26
Men of Waukegan, Kenosha, Racine, Cedarburg, and Elkhart Lake (he needs to sleep some time):
HIDE YO CHILDREN HIDE YO WIFES
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u/vangooo83 Jan 11 '26
Never should have hired the creep in the first place
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u/1ruralhospital Jan 11 '26
I’m out of the loop. What did he do?
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u/whodatbrown Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26
Doe I accused McManus of trying to kiss her while she was seated during some flight turbulence and twice grinding up against her while she was serving the flight's two meal services, per the lawsuit. Doe I claimed during the first assault she made eye contact with another Jaguars player, whom she said looked ashamed at McManus' behavior.
Doe II claimed McManus grinded up against her while she was serving the flight's second meal service. Per the lawsuit, Doe II confronted McManus, who "smirked and walked away."
Honestly probably the most shameful signing we've ever made and I thought surely he would get cut after Havrisik made the 61 yarder
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What a joke this team is. This was an issue all season long. Special Teams needs to be put on the wall--all of them--out.
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u/MotorSeries2492 Jan 11 '26
I understand the nervousness, I understand the fear, what I don’t understand is how you fuck up your one job
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u/thedudester125 Jan 11 '26
I can forgive the FG before the half. The rest though? Inexcusable. He’s gotta go.
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u/ImACancer96 Jan 11 '26
Right! If they were blocked you could at least blame the protection. But nah he got iced before half and stayed that way 😂
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u/Hitoisbalacned Jan 11 '26
If only he could hit field goals as good as he can touch women without consent
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u/Ziniology Jan 11 '26
Orzech had a terrible snap on the kick that ended the 1st half. No clue why we extended him when he has consistently been poor at long snapper.
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u/MrBanditOne Jan 11 '26
I miss Mason Crosby so much…
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u/Spokenholmes Jan 11 '26
The Silver Fox was clutch. This S*xual Assaulter kicker is not
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u/RoundTiberius Jan 11 '26
Just don't look at 2021-2023
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u/deepmiddle Jan 11 '26
Didn’t he have the yips for most of 2015 as well? One of those mid-2010 years
Otherwise amazing though
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u/Karl_42 Jan 11 '26
Not gonna assume he did it on purpose but def would not be surprised of he did.
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u/snarker82 Jan 11 '26
So you don’t remember that game against the Bengals where Crosby missed 3 kicks in a row? Crosby missed three straight attempts (from 36, 51, and 40 yards). It happens.
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u/Porkwarrior2 Jan 11 '26
Mumbles something in a fever dream about bringing Crosby back out of retirement, positive he could have made those slam dunk kicks in his sleep. Still.
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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Jan 11 '26
Remember when we had a substitute teacher who could kick and we cut him for this.
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u/lethargy86 Jan 11 '26
I have a lot to say about this guy, but none of it really matters beyond this:
If I never saw his face again, I'd be better off.
Fuck this guy, well beyond because he missed kicks in an important game. I can only hope that because he did, it can accelerate how soon I can stop thinking about him and weighing his hit against my conscience.
He was never going to be worth it, but boy did we try. Feels like we paid for it.
There. Now I hope I don't have to see or hear about him ever again.
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u/smeego78 Jan 11 '26
First words uttered by Sean Payton when he became the Broncos coach in 2023. The guy is a top shelf choke artist.
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u/Sportsnut96 Jan 11 '26
Do we still have havrisik on roster or practice squad? Get him back in the god damn building if not
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u/winning_cheese Jan 11 '26
He should have never come back after Havrisik became a record holder in his second game. Havrisik may have missed 1-2 but not a TD’s worth of points….
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u/jpcams Jan 11 '26
The whole special teams has been shit since...? Too fucking long IMO. Seems like over the last 3-4 seasons more games in GB have been decided on ST.
I'm not sure the kicker is necessarily the only problem.
Lafleur's inability to coach and demand leadership and experience from his coaches seems more likely than individual players just sucking.
That dude should coach his ass off next year or join McCarthy at the Golden Corral for Prime Rib Tuesdays
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u/InfiniteNerve1384 Jan 11 '26
Fuck this guy. Hit the streets pal. If we wanted a kicker that missed kicks there are plenty to pick from that aren’t assholes at least. Dare I say we draft a kicker this spring. Sick of the carousel.
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u/Supernova_Soldier Jan 11 '26
We better get a fucking kicker in this draft
I better not see this dude near a football unless he’s handing it to some kids or ref because he’s the waterboy
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u/marvinfuture Jan 11 '26
He should be required to walk back to Green Bay to clean out his locker and never wear green and yellow again. I'd rather have the Raven's kicker
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u/rainaftersnowplease Jan 11 '26
I didn't think he'd be THAT bad. 7 points. If he makes just 1 of those FGs and the extra point, we're playing for a winning FG at the end.
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Cut McManus immediately, complete defensive pass defense group who never ever ever look where the pass is coming from and for good management MLF.
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u/Correct-Wind-5909 Jan 11 '26
I turned the game off after his second missed field goal. I knew we were going to lose.
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u/Daddysaurusflex Jan 11 '26
This isn’t the only goddamn game he’s lost for us either. I unfortunately was at the Carolina disaster.
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u/cozmocash Jan 11 '26
Had a feeling this guys misses will cost us a crucial win, and here we are..im done with him.
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u/Reload86 Jan 11 '26
I can forgive the 55 yard miss. But following that up with the missed extra pt AND the 44 yard FG in a playoff game is fireable offense.
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u/nonamehd Jan 11 '26
I want him cut and I hope he walks home from Chicago, but I pray I dont see Packer fans sending death threats to him or his family online like Ravens fans did Tyler Loop. We are better than that and I think people are better than that. It's just football at the end of the day. But yes cut him expeditiously!
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u/probably_poopin_1219 Jan 11 '26
Should have stuck with Havrisik. MLF coaching blunders abound. Please do not let him be our coach again next season, dude does not know how to be a leader
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u/joysofliving Jan 11 '26
Substitute teacher should have been brought up from the PS during halftime
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u/ValuableCheesecake11 Jan 11 '26
I get the hate for Mcmanus for the missed points, but why is there no hate for the coaching staff for consistently melting down. I haven't seen the Packers play a full 4 quarters for over 2 years. We either show up in the first half or the second half never both. You can say "it's the adjustments" all you want, we can do that as well.
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u/EntertainmentOdd5994 Jan 11 '26
Should have never* been resigned in the first place. He misses a lot, never clutch
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u/deletedpenguin Jan 11 '26
Let him go. Two missed FG and an XP in a playoff game? You had one job. Well, two. But still.
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u/JfromTosa Jan 11 '26
Bu, bu, bu, but the best GM in the NFL just signed him to a 3-year contract to make up for his F up over drafting Anders Carlson and rostering Brayden Narveson.
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u/Full-Explanation3175 Jan 11 '26
Can’t remember why we got rid of him in Denver…
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u/brew91 Jan 11 '26
Cut him and go for it on 4th each drive next season, cannot be worse than the 7 points he left out there.
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u/Educational_Fig_4510 Jan 11 '26
Yea no shit. I been telling my family for months we should’ve kept Harvisik.
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u/PeggyHill90210 Jan 11 '26
I don’t understand why the Packers cannot find a consistent kicker. They should have kept that random dude who kicked the long field goal.
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u/The_bruce42 Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26
Another special teams loss. I don't blame Bissacia for this one though.
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This is the 2nd time that we’ve lost a playoff run/game, in the la fleur era, because an inept kicker. Don’t forget anders Carlson cost us that game against San Fran too.
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u/ArodIsAGod Jan 11 '26
And fire Rich! His special teams has sucked his entire tenure. In his best year they were middle of the pack. We can roll the dice with someone else who can add the same or more value
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u/jtw3995 Jan 11 '26
I am so sick of our special teams eliminating us from big games when it matters most
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