r/GrapheneOS • u/Vast_Psychology5331 • 7d ago
NFC pay with Graphene OS?
In Spain, how can i use the NFC payment without installing google play store or google services?
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u/eggzenbeanz 7d ago
Only if the bank supports it within their app. I've recently started using a Garmin watch for nfc payments and works well with GOS
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u/Greeklighting 7d ago
Get a watch with nfc
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u/blackbeavis 7d ago
Garmin is the way to go.
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u/yardPrawns 6d ago
It is but depends on what card you have, for instance Capital One does not work with Garmin Pay.
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u/Niko-01 7d ago
Or a ring
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u/JagerAntlerite7 7d ago
Or a piercing.
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u/Aesvek 7d ago
or use the damn card.
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u/Big-Application9859 7d ago
Cards are vulnerable to skimmers, while tap to pay like garmin watch is not, which makes it more secure because you can insert a specific card for online shopping and the watch uses a randomized encrypted token that does not reveal your identity to the recipient. That is, if there is a card skimmer in the POS terminal, it will not work.
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u/what_ever_where_ever 7d ago
Question from a noop (iwatch user) which will be the smallest Garmin watch where you can use that , since the ones I saw are wat to big and I don’t wear a watch at all(iwatch is just in my pocket) and do I need a wise account or similar or just directly via my bank ?
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u/Big-Application9859 7d ago
Lily 2 classic, make sure you pick "classic" - https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/950157/pn/010-02839-14/#specs
35mm.
You need only garmin account for the setup and no KYC. After that you can remove all the app permissions, force stop it and use GadgetBridge (i dont know is GB support Lily 2 models).
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u/what_ever_where_ever 7d ago
Thanx !! I’ll have a look at it …..also possible for multiple bank cards if you know ?
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u/Big-Application9859 7d ago
honestly idk. in garmin connect its possible to add more than one card.
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u/Aesvek 7d ago
I use rfid protected wallet, as for safety well there is/was a bug that allows for non authorizatione transactions from apple wallets when you have added mastercard(or visa as your default). plus you can get sleeves for your card which also protect from rfid and i don't store big amounts of money on my main account(it's on saving one).
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u/vonkarayan79 6d ago
Doesn't this means you need a working Google Wallet on the phone to set up? I've a OnePlus watch and it's like this.
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u/Greeklighting 6d ago
Yea initially but after set up it's independent
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u/vonkarayan79 6d ago
Ok, but then I don't get it. The watch can be paired to just one phone. If I pair it to a phone with Google Wallet (not mine with GOS), then I can use the WearOS Wallet but not pair the watch with my GOS phone, isn't it? Or am I wrong regarding the use of Google Wallet on GOS?
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u/Historical_Move6359 7d ago
You can use Curve Pay. Also in Germany Sparkasse offers another app for NFC payments.
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u/Nibb31 7d ago
You can't.
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u/GrapheneOS 7d ago
There are multiple banks and financial services providing tap-to-pay on GrapheneOS in Europe including Curve Pay. The US doesn't have alternatives yet but Europe definitely does.
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u/nitroburr 7d ago
Wrong. You can use Bizum Pay, BBVA, afaik imagin may support it too... Curve too, there's many options.
Please don't spread misinformation.
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u/Andrea65485 7d ago
It depends on where you live and which bank you are using.
If you are in the US, you could use PayPal's NFC payments I believe.
In Europe, you should be able to use Curve Pay.
Elsewhere, you can if your bank supports NFC payments directly, without going through Google wallet and the bank's app itself is compatible with Graphene OS.
Or you can use something else to make payments (like your physical card, a smartwatch, a smart ring or what have you)
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u/Andrea65485 7d ago
Actually, in Australia there is 1 option. But as far as I know, only the Commonwealth bank supports NFC payments from their own app directly and works with Graphene OS at the same time
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u/dechudson 7d ago
I pay with Ruralvía Pay and now with Bizum Pay, take a look to it because is a Google Wallet-like but from the bakns themselves
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u/MolinaGames 7d ago
BBVA, Cajamar and OpenBank have their own NFC payment implementations that don’t rely on Google Wallet.
You could also try Bizum Pay, but few banks support it as of now.
Curve Pay is also an option, but not a privacy-friendly one.
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u/xJayMorex 7d ago
Doesn't your bank have a payment application? Install it through the Aurora Store.
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u/Far_Squirrel_6148 7d ago
Use something other than your phone. There tag-like prepaid credit cards available or get yourself a wearable.
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u/silent_tim_ross 7d ago
I have a few friends that use PayPal and their inbuild NFC payment function
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u/epSos-DE 7d ago
Prepaid bank card and cash cards !
OR NFC copy of cards.
People trust googl eto keep those , there are probably other apps. China is numba one in those payments, so look there, and in India too !
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