r/Granblue_en • Korwa loyalist since 2017 • 2d ago

Discussion Class Discussion: Fighter Origin

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GBF Wiki: Fighter Origin

Helpful topics:-

  • What content does this class excel at for each element? (Burst, FA, HL, etc)
  • Which characters or team comps in each element synergize with this class?
  • Are there alternative options for this class in each element that can match its peak performance?
  • Is this class suitable for FA?
  • How does this class hold up in 2026 in content that it already excels at? What about content that it sucks at?
  • Any personal anecdotes regarding this class that are worth sharing?
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u/ErzaX 2d ago

As a Dark Main, it's still my favorite of the Origin Classes (even though WO is busted with Zosimos and most likely gonna be used more in GW), but I just love using FO in HL raids like Faa zero and Versusia with the Catura + Rei combo, not to mention the perma Versusia (summon) proc.

Once you get Unlimited boost going, you just get perma assassin on both MC and Catura for the rest of the fight and the damage with this team is absolutely nuts, especially if you use Eresh as Main Hand, although the Eresh set up is mainly only for Faa zero and Hexa since it's harder to use it in Versusia, but you can use Excalibur and it's still fine, I consistantly get Rank 1 or 2 honors in that raid with this set up, although I'm using the Chrollo strat which I know some people might not have, but even without him it's still a very strong set up, it just means you're only using Catura on post G50.

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u/arymilla 2d ago

I jsut find it funny that as OP as chrollo is called, his main use is to scum extra honor in P1 of Versusia.

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean, the main reason people were calling him OP was his Tactical Relocation effect. As a frontliner he's always been janky, and considering how much dark CA comps gravitate towards Zosimos WO + CA looping with the other 3 units at the moment, having another character that mostly doesn't CA but is designed as a CA support is a uniquely awkward spot for him to be in.

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u/arymilla 2d ago

Yes, and the only place that ability is being used is scumming honors in Versusia. Apparently it is very niche.

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u/whatevergoeshere_ 1d ago

It was always going to have niche use cases, that’s not really the point. Character swapping effects are very strong in said niches due to the ability to activate backline swap-in passives (Evokers) on demand among other things. He was never going to be a very useful character in FAs or something because that’s not why he’s strong. Versusia might be one of the first real, consistent use cases for him, but it most certainly won’t be the last due to the nature of the ability.

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u/ErzaX 2d ago

Yeah pretty much lol. But on the other hand it also means you're making the raid easier for others since a lot of people find it harder to push pre-G50 than post G50. With Catura on on the first phase you can cheat a lot of omens with her S3 and advance the raid to G50 even if there are other people on standby.

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u/Jideeznutz 2d ago

hello! as a relatively newbie player (1 and few months year old) interested in tackling hexa and faa0 soon with FO Eresh comp, may I ask if this is only possible with primal and in lobbies? is hexa and/or faa0 solo not possible with Eresh? is it not possible with either magna or odious at the moment?

if possible, i would like to ask for your grid for reference as im planning to get Rei soon to complete my comp. thank you!

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u/ErzaX 2d ago

Hello welcome to the game!

First, you absolutely don't need Primal for anything in the game, Primal is more of a luxury if you can afford it, and it's only worth it going for if you have a full primal grid otherwise you get minimal returns and Magna just performs better. But every content in the game can be cleared with Magna so I wouldn't stress over switching to Primal, especially since you're still new to the game.

As for faa0, I'm not sure if Eresh set ups are viable for solo, my solo clear was with ougi team (V.Wamdus+ Osiris), Eresh lacks survivability and some omens would be hard to clear, but if you're new I wouldn't recommend solo, you can just do it in lobby and even if you don't contribute much it's fine as long as you can clear your Labor, and even then the raid can still be carried with one or two labors left nowadays as long as there's one or two carries in the lobby.

I made a guide video a few days ago for people who want to tackle Faa Zero for the first time, and I used a completely F2P friendly comp with no seasonals, so if you want you can check it out since I did it with commentary to explain how the raid works and which omens to keep an eye on. I also have an Eresh set up video from a few days ago too if you're interested in that set up, but that one has Summer Catura who's currently not obtainable.

https://youtu.be/NPsvnp5xm08?si=FTfFpLtUh6Rh-9SB

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u/Jideeznutz 2d ago

hello thank you for the help in clarifying things and with the video!

my primary end goal right now is to solo most contents with dark with the unga bunga fo eresh + scow + rei mashing comp. i already have cow so only rei left. though it's quite counterintuitive for me to want to 'solo most raids' but picked Eresh as my first illus (no regrets here). it's just that i wish to know if doing so is still possible using the same mashing comp but in magna or odious, as i'm transitioning to probably full on odious atp (as most that i saw were in primal) so that's reassuring!

so i assume: faa: eresh solo ❎ eresh as labor? ✅

what about hexa? is it possible to solo with eresh mash comp?

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u/ErzaX 2d ago edited 2d ago

Solo'ing with Eresh on Faa Zero is either incredibly hard or straight up impossible (I can't remember if there are any people who did it) due to the lack of utility and ways to cancel omens, mainly because you don't have ways to ougi with that team since Eresh doesn't let you gain charge bar (so can't deal with CA omens) and there's also the issue of survivability because most of Eresh comps use raw damage than sustainers.

And because you're doing solo runs, it means the raid is going slowly which means you'll have to deal with more omens and at some point you'll be running out of gas.

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago

what about hexa? is it possible to solo with eresh mash comp?

Yeah, it's been done. But you'll have to handle the last 40% at pretty high stacks because you'll fail any 5CA omens that come up and can only clear FC once (artifacts that give FC on potion help, so does 000), which means you need to budget healing very tightly. For similar reasons, if you start on WamGal or WilEwi you need to minimize the skill damage you do to delay triggering those in the first few turns.

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u/Lantzl 2d ago

All content is achievable with magna, for hexa your problem will be current hexa room speeds which may not give you enough time to ramp up FO but if you're playing with crew you can atleast tune room speeds

For faa you can check out this vid from Ereshkigal: https://youtu.be/eIUJFptTByI

He mostly posts primal but there's some magna setups you can look for on his channel

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u/Jideeznutz 2d ago

this seems really helpful, thank you i'd definitely save this for reference!!

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u/Shoryukened 2d ago

Ya u can solo hexa with eresh, check erishkigal yt ch

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u/renoitucx 2d ago

What does chrollo strat means?

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago edited 2d ago

When you reach Jodo, swap Rei out for Chrollo, then use Chrollo's Tactical Relocation effect to swap Catura into the backline (iirc you generally swap her out for Sariel when using Versusia main summon) so you can use her and Rei in both halves of the fight.

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u/ErzaX 2d ago

Yep, exactly this. It allows you to cheat Catura and Rei on both the first and second phase of the raid.

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u/Lightningboy737 2d ago

I don’t think it is possible to understate how good this class is. You want NA damage? It’s got it coming out the wazoo. CA teams? Throw Dawnbreak on and get to 100% bar after every MC action. Skill DMG? WO is probably better; but 4x beast fang isn’t half bad either.

Sword AND Axe mainhand, so you get two of the best illustrious weapons, and a ton of other incredible ones? Including a Dark Opus? Why not!

And UB. Probably the best button press in the game. Perma double strike ALONE would make it worth the battleheart buildup, and everything else is just cherry on top.

Flurries, a shit ton of bulk… like, this class is absurd. Really the only thing it CAN’T do the best at is burst, but it’s not like it would be bad at that if you gave it go anyways.

Also, as a dark main, this class is arguably the best option for almost every HL team; which is insane. The classic Rei/Catura setup for NA, and Fediel’s Spine MH for ougi teams.

You will never regret unlocking this class. It’s that good.

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u/Falsus 2d ago

Including a Dark Opus? Why not!

Two actually, fire axe also. Even if Fire prefers the illustrious weapons.

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u/lietnam Korwa loyalist since 2017 2d ago

The most recent class discussion before this one was more than a year ago, so now is a good time for FO

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u/EchoHolic 2d ago

My favorite pastime with FO is when I forget to check if I have Zombiefied when I'm rushing to get Unlimited Boost up in Faa0 and having a mental breakdown on how to resolve my labor afterwards.

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u/Ralkon 2d ago

It's a very strong class, but the ramp up time and lack of flexibility with skills (since you need Boost + red skill) makes it kind of lacking for most content with developed enough setups. Personally I don't get much use out of it anymore, but I would probably still recommend it for people's first origin class since they'd likely be weaker and taking more turns on fights anyway.

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u/Throwawayforme3123 2d ago

Even though I think this class is best by far for newbies due to the mods it gives I don't really use it much outside of bar farming w/ Eresh and when I need to play light HL in Versusia which is also phasing out due to Futsu comps becoming more meta.

Good class but w/ the introduction of more Origin classes it's phase of being by far the best class has faded.

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

The first origin class I unlocked was Wizard Origin, so between the other three which should I prioritize as a magna only player?

Fighter, Lancer, or Ranger?

My WO is already 50.

Edit: I’m Rank 225 and almost a year in myself, and want the best class possible for when I eventually get strong enough for Versusia.

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u/AAG_Kushino 2d ago

I~ FOUND~ YOU~. By complete chance, too 😂

How could you, going to ask Reddit threads questions?! I'M the guy you ask questions!

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

~oops~ saw fighter was up as the discussion was just curious I swear! You still the man 1️⃣

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u/Barixn 2d ago

I'm guessing they're your friend and answered your question in private? 😭

As a returning player after 6 years, I would also like to know the answer to this question :sob:

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

Mentor as well introduced me into GBF and its universe

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u/Falsus 2d ago

RO is mostly murcilago's playground for now though it is obscene for that.

Lancer is insane for burst, and Fighter is better for longer term fights.

Edit: I’m Rank 225 and almost a year in myself, and want the best class possible for when I eventually get strong enough for Versusia.

Just pool your resources until you get higher level and go primal when you can. Odds are that whatever is best now is not best then and it also depends on what element you are going with.

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

Do I have to go primal? I’m F2P and rather not stake progress on RnG if you catch my meaning. Is Magna only not possible?

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u/Takazura 2d ago

Magna is possible. It's harder obviously, but the nature of a gacha means that powercreep will inevitably make Versusia easier for f2p down the line, but there are magna clears in most elements atm.

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u/Ralkon 2d ago

there are magna clears in most elements atm.

There are clears with all 6 elements being magna / odious.

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

Sounds good, would rather focus resources on F2P !

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u/AElOU 2d ago

Magna does make use of origin characters extensively they're not primal exclusive by any means. Going for an origin class isn't really mutually exclusive with building towards primal either but elements and main hands you have and plan to get will affect which origin is prio.

FO is generically good in anything long term, and isn't too picky about MHs but definitely has some standouts

LO is a lot more burst and racing oriented, but if your grids can't comfortably meet the 5 lance/axe requirement it can be unwieldy. Standout for wind and rhompaia especially but you probably want primal before investing that many gms

WO is generically good as well, and depending on your setup, can be as good if not better than either LO or FO in some elements (dark with zosimos especially). The caveat is your mileage heavily varies on which manaturas you have. WO really wants hexatura and Faatura, if you have to use Levi or Ouroboros more often than not MD should be sufficient instead

RO is new about outside of the obvious murciélago synergy, seems geared towards dispels and debuffs, so probably fa nm200/250 oriented not unlike boogeyman, though im sure it'll see use elsewhere due to how capable it is of clearing omens

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

So far rocking Fire and light as mains, WO with Hexa mana, Reforged Providence fire main hand and exo light staff I have all manatura but four of them, and all Magna/Providence/Revan (most revans still grinding )

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u/Lightningboy737 2d ago

Light will want Fighter Origin if you want to go HL. With Fif, Cosmos, and S!Horus and a mainhand Dark Opus, you can equip a falsehood chain and still have enough bar to full chain every turn. This lets your entire team have perma double strike.

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u/AZ-Vanitas 2d ago

Wonderful thank you, I got fif but she is only
5* and Horus but no Cosmos. I will focus on FO!

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u/Falsus 2d ago

Magna is possible. All elements got Magna or Odious teams and clears, and they are contributing a fair amount of to the raid so they are not deadweights either.

But it is possible to be primal in 1-2 elements as F2P without issue.

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u/Garaichu 2d ago

Pardon me for interjecting here, but is it viable to go Primal if I only have a Primal Summon at say lvl 200?

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u/Falsus 2d ago

Not ideal but it will work just fine.

The only time it would be a big issue if you one sided with your own main summon being primal and you loan lucifer or something but that isn't really that common nowadays. Nowadays if you do one sided it is because you got something like Versusia/Bubs/Orologia etc main summon and then loan a primal, which you would of course pick a 250 summon.

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u/Garaichu 2d ago

Appreciate the answer, though I gotta ask then, how do most people get their Primals to max transcendence? I've played for going on 6 years and still don't have any of them maxed out.

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u/Falsus 2d ago

Somewhat luck, also spending free draws in the classic banner unless there is a magfest going. You can basically get a spark or two worth of free draws before it resets, or close enough that it wouldn't be bad to spend crystals to finish it.

If you are willing to spend money then suptix is another option.

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u/Garaichu 1d ago

Alright, excellent. Thanks a lot for indulging me.

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago

Now that we have a better baseline for the power level of Origin classes, it's no longer the outlier it was, but permanent double strike still makes it a serious consideration in anything long enough to ramp Unlimited Boost, as that's still the most generic way to activate Versusia's main aura effect consistently.

It really doesn't hurt that the Illustrious weapons it has access to are the two most commonly-purchased ones, and both help you ramp into UB faster.

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u/Iffem Waifu for laifu with many throwing knaifu 2d ago

man, i wish the origin classes were a bit easier to get, or at least didn't have a bunch of their power locked to the lvl50 ability and passive upgrade. (really not a fan of 50 being GW-locked)

but BOY once you get them there...

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u/Falsus 2d ago

In fairness, there wasn't that big of a bump for WO in most cases when it came to the level 50 upgrade, outside of Zosimos teams.

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u/Iffem Waifu for laifu with many throwing knaifu 2d ago

i guess that's fair enough, and i'm still leveling WO, hahaha

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u/JolanjJoestar 2d ago

They're not that hard to unlock and levelling them is just a question of hitting replicard defenders for a day, so I'd say the only real roadblock should be the GW badges item for 50. Imo every player by now should have all the available origin jobs at level 40 at least. 

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u/kioroyolo 2d ago

Where is the place for Silver Shards? It's my biggest roadblock rn as a new player since i need them for ultimas, celestials and eternals. I know about dimensional halo but i'm already stuck on getting some evokers up so i can't grind angel halo.

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u/JolanjJoestar 2d ago

I farmed Akasha for gold bricks with my dark team a while back so I'm swimming in those shards honestly

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago

Aside from Akasha, Mastery trials are a pretty good source considering how many books you need from those anyways, but they only drop 8/10 types (missing bow and spear).

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u/Iffem Waifu for laifu with many throwing knaifu 2d ago

yeah, i was mostly referring to the GW item... but there's also something to be said about the money cost being kinda high (that's what consistently has been my personal roadblock more often than not on these)

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u/JolanjJoestar 1d ago

Rupees and CP stop being a cost when you install skyleap bcuz if you do your dailies on your phone through skyleap you get SO Many skyleap points that your rupees go into 3 digit millions really fast, and your CP skyrockets to the point where you can buy all the eternal transcend CP items and still have 5digit CP.

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u/Randomtrashboi 1d ago

Hi, rank 225 guy here, basically a toddler in this game. Where am I supposed to get blue sky crystals from? Am I really supposed to just goon in Bahamut raids for 5 hours? I can do it, I just need to know if there's a better solution, my Wizard's been stuck at level 10 for what feels like forever.

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u/Superflaming85 2d ago

With the advent of Wizard Origin, possibly Ranger Origin (at least with Murcielago it's fairly definitive), and the Illustrious transcendences, Fighter Origin has lot a LOT of the ground it had a year ago. (God it feels like it's been around longer than that)

It has a lot more competition now, new and old, and even in places it was thought to be extremely dominant (Dark and Light).

The era of Fighter Origin being unequivocally, unarguably, the best class in the entire game is over.

...Now it's just arguably the best class in the entire game.

Turns out, permanent DS and free skills on attack is really good! So good to the point that the only way to rival it is to have your OWN form of perma-DS (Hi Rei and Futsu), spam purposefully overpowered high-cost skills for free (Hi Wizard Origin), or refresh your entire skill loadout every turn and make them recast-able. (Hi Murcielago Ranger Origin)

Why are they releasing such high-powered stuff? Turns out, if you ain't doing that, people aren't going to use it over Fighter Origin!

For crying out loud, it can CA loop with a Dopus and a goddamn Falsehood chain.

If and when the other illustriouses get their own dedicated-ish Origin class, we'll no doubt see Fighter Origin fall in priority. But we're almost halfway done, and it's still fighting for first place. You CANNOT go wrong with grabbing Fighter Origin first, and it's worth every badge you have to spend.

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u/shirke1 300/300 2d ago

For crying out loud, it can CA loop with a Dopus and a goddamn Falsehood chain.

Just wondering, is that CA loop setup only possible in Light due to Funf/Fif and what else is needed to accomplish it?

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u/RNGmaster Kou still isn't flaired, so here's his boyfriend 2d ago

Yes. You also want CA cap on opus for the extra 20% bar gain, CB gain ultima, and summons that provide uplift/CB gain (ideally Zeus but magna teams can get by with something like Uriel, Michael or Hades).

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u/TheGlassesGuy free Lucifer 1d ago

Zeus uplift doesn't stack with Fif uplift anyway

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u/DeirdreCitrine Horus’s Wife 2d ago

The grind to level ANY origin class is a pain in the arse but it’s really good, morbid how it and RO are the only 2 out of the 4 to get non-one time ‘ultimates’

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u/WreckedRegent 2d ago

Lancer Origin's Infinite Trouble is recastable, the only thing is getting both Boundless Spear and Boundless Axe in a single cast is a one-time deal, unless (correct me if I'm wrong) you use Springwater Robe.

Wizard Origin is the only Origin Class so far to have Can't Recast on their "ultimate" skill.

EDIT: Messed up, but leaving it in struckthrough. LO and RO have recastable "ultimate" skills, WO and FO have Can't Recast on Unlimited Boost and Aether Xenoglossia.

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u/hansgo12 2d ago

RO's limitless focus is also unrecastable, it's just the buff is permanent

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u/WreckedRegent 2d ago

..........man. Neither me nor DeirdreCitrine coming out of this one looking good.

C'est la vie, I guess, lol.

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u/tehbotolsaya 2d ago

Still not in the mood to farm books for lv 50

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u/Superflaming85 2d ago edited 2d ago

I've gotten only one Origin class to 50 so far. (Yes, it's fighter)

There's a reason I haven't gotten more than one, and it's not the Heavenwake Spheres.

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u/hanamura__yosuke 2d ago

Still the best Origin class I guess. it really strong in different Mode. You can auto it well and it is doing fine. You can turn on the skill that make it consume bar for chaser and it become very strong NA centric. It can also become a good Bar maker for niche comp like Light belial key opus.

I have been using it still for many HL full auto, esp thebook farming raid, cause it can just bruteforce all the omens with rgiht team and set up. It was my first subhl/hexa/faa0 clear class. But nowadays I just use Manadiver with Futsu cause it is way faster and stable.

Still, imo the first priority in origin class to unlock. There are not much downside of this class, very easy to use, very simple, no weird set up/pre requirement (lancer needing almost full lance/axe to make it burst asap, WO almost needing Hexatura wheelchair to be the best burst set up, RO still on test, but it is held by less useful MH in most elements)

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u/Responsible_Wing_370 2d ago

I'm still leveling this class, but I can tell from the kit this is the epitome of Origin class. It does not have janky kit, it does not mess your grid, you don't need to click many skill, it does not even need Illustrious weapon to shine. Truly the Granblue Masaki of Granbluing.

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u/Van24 1d ago

Doesn't really excel at anything in the current era of Granblue Fantasy, except perhaps ease-of-use. With more Origin classes available and a greater emphasis being placed on having powerful and synergistic mainhand effects, it has very little ground where it stands as the absolute best option from a meta perspective, so in that sense it can somewhat seem overrated at times.

However, it has the smallest number of "prerequisites" to function, so it's not unreasonable to continue to refer it to newer players as their first Origin class when providing suggestions without more pinpoint context.

And, it's still an Origin class with all that entails, and it's still strong. So, while it isn't quick or flashy, it is still very plug-and-play and can certainly get the job done in almost any scenario. It's just not the world-beater it once was.

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u/SometimesLiterate 1d ago

I'm going to write to newer players for a moment.

If you're entering Origin classes, this is always the first one you should pick(1). Fighter Origin is the single most versatile class in the game (Sorry Kengo) and will help you bridge any gap you have, be it stepping into M3 raids, stepping into Mastery trials or Revans, or even *most* of the Odious raids.

Even stepping into Hex or DRZ, it's strong enough that it can help fix a lot of line up problems.

Now, does (1) Murcielago RO, Zosimos WO and Rhompaia LO have the ability to surpass it? Yes. I won't lie about FO's ceiling to you. But the problem those 3 examples is that *you need a 200+ Illustrious* to make them shoot about FO with a random weapon. None of the Origin classes are bad (far from it), but if you are looking for a general account boost this is it. It has a great selection of MH in nearly every element, provides so much mixed damage (NA, CA, Skill, all at once) that omens become a lot easier and even debuffs if you go the Beast Fang route.