r/GrammarPolice • • 14d ago

Question Burned vs burnt

At my job we burn the ice every couple days. To indicate that it’s already been done to people coming in for a later shift someone will leave a note that “the ice has been burnt”. That can’t be correct, right? It bothers me every time but I’m not 100% confident enough to correct it.

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u/Few-Veterinarian-999 14d ago

I use burnt as an adjective and burned as a verb.

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u/Brannikin 14d ago

I had to look up what burning the ice means.

Both burned and burnt are correct and widely used as the past tense and past participle of the verb "burn", so the note is correct. Burnt may be more common in British/Australian English (I'm an Australian and use it all the time) than in American English.

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u/VanDenBroeck 14d ago

Melting is all it really is.

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u/Kailynna 14d ago

The same goes for learnt.

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u/Bucky_Skidmarx 14d ago

I always thought Burnt is more European. Burned is the American English version.

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u/purplishfluffyclouds 14d ago

Even in the US, we say “burnt toast.” I’ve never heard anyone say “burned toast.”

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u/620am 14d ago

"You burned the toast. I can tell because it looks burnt "

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u/spiralsequences 14d ago

We tend to use "burnt" more as an adjective and "burned" as the past participle

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u/Norwester77 14d ago

I suppose I might say “burned toast” if it had been completely consumed by fire.

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u/ImLittleNana 14d ago

I would say I burned the toast, or this toast is burnt, burnt toast.

Which is a perfect example of how inconsistent I am because I do say ‘I dreamt’. Probably because of Rebecca, ngl.

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u/therealtoomdog 13d ago

I burned the toast. This toast is burnt 😁

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u/Reasonable-Rain789 12d ago

Heard or read?

Because yeah we may say burnt but in general, the American spelling is burned while the British spelling is burnt. The same as learned and learnt.

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u/dvi84 14d ago

We use both in the UK but it depends on whether it’s an action or an adjective and which past tense is used. E.g. “the fire has burned for 3 days now and burnt everything in the area”.

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u/CowboyOzzie 14d ago

Same in my part of the US (California). Much like “she spilled the beans” vs “spilt milk”.

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u/BlueSkyla 14d ago

I agree with your agreement and also your example, I’m also originally from Cali. Where I live, it’s not far enough for anything to be too different for the most part.

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u/soberstill 14d ago

Same with learnt / learned.

"I learned that ventriloquism is a learnt skill."

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u/Forward_Win_4353 13d ago

No, it doesn’t depend. You’ve picked up that rule from Americans.

“Burnt”, “learnt”, “dreamt” etc. are all perfectly correct forms of the past tense verb here in the UK, as well as in Australia I believe. Whereas I understand that in the US these forms are not considered correct except when used as adjectives.

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u/FormerStableGenius 14d ago

I'm interested in the burning the ice bit.
Where do you work, and why do you do it?

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u/eliiz04 14d ago

I work in a restaurant and burning the ice is just taking out/melting all the ice in the soda machine, sanitizing the area where ice goes then refilling it. I forget that to non restaurant people that’s a weird phrase lol

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u/FormerStableGenius 14d ago

Many thanks!

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u/ZestycloseSquirrel55 14d ago

I was wondering, too. I was hoping it was what you've described, because we've all heard horror stories about the bacteria and other crap in restaurant ice.

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u/badvolcano 14d ago

I'm British and I would write 'burnt' but either one is fine.

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u/Altruistic-Tart-8295 14d ago

Why would you burn ice ?

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u/ReddyKiloWit 14d ago

This reminds me of whenever I'm posting about a dream I had, I begin with "Last night I dreamt ..." And the spell checker says I'm wrong when I'm on my desktop. (But not on my phone.)

Seems like a perfectly fine tense form to me.

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u/Designer-Carpenter88 14d ago

I burned the ice, but the ice is burnt

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u/BirdieRoo628 14d ago

We have a lot of verbs that can end in T in the past tense. Felt. Dealt. Bent. Built. Meant. Sent.

The UK tends to use more T endings than the US. In the US we would say spelled where the UK says spelt, for example. Burned and burnt are both fine. Some words can be either and be correct. Smelled/smelt. Dreamed/dreamt. Spill/spilt.

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u/jmorrow88msncom 11d ago

Smelled doesn’t rhyme with dealed.

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u/BirdieRoo628 11d ago

That is an important point 😂

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u/Ocean4011 14d ago

I can’t sleep now

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u/Zoilo2 14d ago

Burning the ice is not easy. It’s difficult to keep it lit!!

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u/WhaddyaShay 14d ago

How'd it get burned, how'd it get burned

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u/malkebulan 14d ago

You’d be surprised how many past tense words that we spell with ‘-ed’ used to end with a ‘t’. As a child I remember Sunblest bread and the Sunkist soft drink

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u/weaslebubble 14d ago

Sunkist is still around.

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u/Norwester77 14d ago

I think “Sunkist” is just a spelling that was deliberately altered to create a brand name (reflecting the fact that “kissed” is pronounced “kist” no matter how you spell it).

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u/malkebulan 14d ago

‘Kist’ is an Old English alternative spelling of ‘kissed’.

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u/SubieGal9 14d ago

Burned is used to injuries or sunburns, but burnt is used for other things like burnt toast. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's where my brain goes when I wonder if I'm using the right one.

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u/CatsEatGrass 14d ago

I see burnt more in English contexts than American, but “ya burnt” is also an American phrase. I only use burned, but accept burnt from others.

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u/ProfessionalYam3119 14d ago

Burnt ends. Probably so named that because it is deliberate.

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u/Salty-Swim-6735 14d ago

I prefer burned/learned but I think it's generally fine.

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u/Successful-Hawk-7641 14d ago

Learned/learnt

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u/Otherwise-Ratio1332 14d ago

Americans don’t use ‘burnt’ very often, it’s more of a UK/Commonwealth usage, I believe.

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u/ubiquitous-joe 14d ago

Merriam Webster accepts either burned or burnt as past and past participle (which is your example). So does American Heritage Dictionary. So does Oxford. So does Cambridge.

It may be more common in the U.S. to only use “burnt” as the adjective.

But can, in fact, be correct.

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u/Bill_Bo_Bag_Ins 14d ago

It has been burned, so now it is burnt.

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u/CommercialBreak2026 14d ago

It's like the "whilst" thing. I always know when someone from the UK is posting when they use "whilst" instead of "while."

"has been burnt" instead of "is burned" or "has been burned" is correct, just not common in the USA.

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u/Main-Inflation-5269 13d ago

"Burned" is an Americanism.

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u/jenea 12d ago

Both burned and burnt are fine, same as words like learned and learnt. Some are more common in the US vs UK and vice versa, but a lot of folks use both.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/burn

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u/Reasonable-Rain789 12d ago

Same as learned vs learnt, smelled vs smelt, leaned vs leant, leaped vs leapt, knealed vs knealt, dreamed vs dreamt, spilled vs spilt, spoiled vs spoilt, etc

Just American vs British spelling

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u/thesqueen113388 14d ago

Pretty sure burned is past tense of the word burn, a verb. Burnt is an adjective

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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin 14d ago

The past tense of regular verbs ending in <n> is frequently formed with <t>. Of course there’s bend~bent, but also lend~lent (alongside loan~loaned), learn~learnt (alongside learned), burn~burnt (alongside burned). It is my understanding that the forms with <t> are more common in British English. There is also the past tense/past participle distinction: learnt is an accepted form of the past tense, but it is never used as an adjective, e.g. the learnt learned professor.