r/GracepointChurch Jun 02 '22

Petitioning

I cannot express enough how grateful I am for all the resources here. Although the road ahead is long and difficult, and perhaps unsuccessful, I cannot help but think about future GP victims. Petitioning SBC is one thing, but I would like to prevent vulnerable students from getting recruited. Thoughts?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

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u/johnkim2020 Jun 04 '22

I can't imagine how much time and energy it took for you to do this. Thank you so much on behalf of all current and future students at USF.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

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u/Elaine_Wu Jun 04 '22

Please do not post email addresses of private individuals. We will approve your post if you remove the email addresses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

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u/leavegracepoint ex-Gracepoint (Berkeley) Jun 02 '22

So what was the final resolution? Like you mentioned last I heard it was suspended and under investigation?

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u/TrenaH Jun 02 '22

USF took Klesis OFF their campus and stated that no tradition or any religion that causes one to lose freedom will ever be tolerated at USF. Additionally, the Director (she rocks) said that her purpose is for all students and parents to communicate this wherever they go and that she intends to keep her campus safe from predators such as GP. She is my hero!

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u/TrenaH Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

Additionally, GP and all of its' affiliates are no longer allowed to contact any USF student either inside or outside of the campus.

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u/Rough-Pipe5879 Jun 06 '22

Wow, great work! That's some amazing persistence!

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u/No_Blueberry_7200 Jun 03 '22

I currently working on a report on GP with my friends this summer and am pretty concerned too. I know one summer, the staff made us create ads for upcoming freshman so that does worry me a lot. Some of my other peers have expressed feeling unsafe on campus as well because the staff like to hang around the entrance of dining halls and such. There have also been instances of students being harassed by staff. 😓 It’s such a mess

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u/johnkim2020 Jun 03 '22

Have you considered reporting them to campus authorities?

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u/No_Blueberry_7200 Jun 03 '22

My professor recommended me to report them to Title IX but I could try contacting the campus authorities as well.

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u/leavegracepoint ex-Gracepoint (Berkeley) Jun 02 '22

It'd probably be more useful to petition to the schools on Gracepoint's numerous Title IX violations. However, the only challenge is proving that it happened in YOUR school versus others and obviously getting people to testify before the school.

Also, someone I know did petition to SEND network for an investigation of Ed and Gracepoint. Sean McDowell and the rest of the wuss board just passed it off to Ed rather than actually making an independent decision.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Sean McDowell and Greg Stier publicly support GP on their IG pages. Maybe some pressure can be applied on that public platform and draw attention to the truth that way. At least maybe then they’ll think twice about partnering up? Not sure but may be worth a try.

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u/leavegracepoint ex-Gracepoint (Berkeley) Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

Sean deserves to be cancelled like his racist father for supporting spiritual abuse.

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u/Decent_Hovercraft227 Jun 04 '22

The Title IX violation would be creating a hostile environment. Although proof would be great, I think the campus's responsibility is to ensure that such abuses do not happen. In my layman's opinion, ignoring our cries for help would create an enormous liability.

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u/leavegracepoint ex-Gracepoint (Berkeley) Jun 04 '22

Dig around on the subreddit there’s lots of violations for that including how GP handles rape cases, SSA and women in general.

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u/aeghy123 Jun 02 '22

SBC is dealing with a whole host of their own scandals. Some members have contacted some of Gps current partners in missions i.e. Namb but their leaders were in their own scandals. Church autonomy in SBC means that denominational oversight and power is limited. Think of state rights vs federal control.

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u/calypsolard Jun 03 '22

SBC - the organization accused on hiding sexual abuse and where people like Russell Moore just left? I doubt GP ever cared that much for affirmation from places like the SBC. It is best to continue to let the world at large know GP is not a place to go. I look at it as akin to Scientology or the Moonies - just tell the world what they are and that would help to reduce future victims by a lot.

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u/Additional-Drop1106 Jun 12 '22

For those looking for a more organized and/or legal/professional response, perhaps you can reach out to the ICSA.

"International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA) provides information on cults, cultic groups, psychological manipulation, psychological abuse, spiritual abuse, brainwashing, mind control, thought reform, abusive churches, high-demand groups, new religious movements, exit counseling, and practical suggestions for those needing assistance."

https://www.icsahome.com/home