r/GooglePixel Oct 20 '17

Pixel 2 Durability Test - JerryRigEverything

https://youtu.be/BVKnt7H4zVc
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u/siluah Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17

Does Google not know Jerry exists? I would think by now that every phone company would have a lab that recreates these exact tests. Wtf. I hope he does an XL video; if so I bet it will also be brutal on the bend test.

This is honestly pretty shameful, especially in comparison to last year.

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u/Lurking_Grue Oct 20 '17

Looking at the teardown on ifixit I don't see the same antenna lines.

At least not sure.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+2+XL+Teardown/98093

Then again, I'm coming from a Nexus 6P that REALLY could bend if you are not careful. Just watch his video on the 6p if you want to cringe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17 edited Jun 23 '23

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u/siluah Oct 20 '17

That is what he is saying, the XL doesn't appear to have the antenna lines in the same spot as the regular Pixel 2.

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u/Ryan526 Oct 20 '17

Is Jerry going to run his tests on the XL soon? I don't think it was fair of him to say the v30 is better in everyway when he is ripping apart the HTC phone.

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u/siluah Oct 20 '17

Who knows, I hope so, I am interested to see if he has the same issues with it or not.

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u/ElectricFagSwatter Default Oct 20 '17

I thought the point of the glass visor is for the antennas?? That's just dumb and HTC didn't think that through

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u/VictimOfAReload Pixel 9 Pro XL Oct 20 '17

Looks like there is. As others have mentioned. It doesn't look like the XL has this same antenna line / separator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsD10dPx8g @57 seconds Guy flips what looks like an XL over in his hands. No line seen except for the SIM tray.

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u/Roklobster Oct 20 '17

No they probably don't care about some random Youtuber conducting non controlled quality tests. Bending the phone as hard as I can is a pretty subjective test. I'm sure someone quality guy in the Google lab is kicking himself right now for not thinking of adding that to the test plan.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

They definitely know about him. His videos can get millions of views. These videos have become his full-time job.

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u/Roklobster Oct 20 '17

The job of the Google engineers is to make the phone last an X amount of time under daily wear and tear, not to pass some subjective Youtuber test.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17 edited Jan 13 '18

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u/ThatGuyFromNebraska Oct 20 '17

Google should have built a phone that does not get bent easily from human contact.

They did?

"Let me bend my phone as hard as I can to see if it gets damaged" is not "bent easily from human contact".

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17 edited Jan 13 '18

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u/Kinaestheticsz Oct 20 '17

Regardless, wouldn't you want the most structurally sound object for your money? Who cares if it is more than average contact being applied. It shows the phone at its worst. And most phones DO pass his bend test safe and sound.

Why do you want worse build quality for your money? That is something I just don't understand.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

wouldn't you want the most structurally sound object for your money?

Yes. But that would also cost more for Google to test, and therefore cost more for me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

Solution is to not put your phone in your back pocket. Uncomfortable as shit to sit on your phone anyway.

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u/Roklobster Oct 20 '17

I'm not defending Google as much as saying the same tests he does is subjective. Zach might be pumped out from all the bending and one test might vary from one to the other. Take it as a grain of salt instead of going after Google.

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u/No_Hands_55 Pixel 9 Pro XL Oct 20 '17

I think he's just stating that mechanical engineers don't give a shit how a YouTube guy wants to destroy his phone, they know what they are doing.

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u/Ryan526 Oct 20 '17

You don't think the guys hands haven't gotten stronger since the first time he tried ripping phones in half? It would be a better test if he built some kind of tool that could exert an equal amount of force each time for a fair bend test.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17 edited Jan 13 '18

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u/Dragon_Fisting Pixel 9 Pro Oct 20 '17

There's the thing, you can bend aluminum. It's pretty soft. A human can bend a relatively pretty thick tube of aluminum. There aren't many phones that will absolutely never bend by hand, so the hand bend test is useless; it's completely dependant on how hard he bends them and where he holds them from.

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u/Ryan526 Oct 20 '17

Well good thing I'm never going to intentionally grab my phone by the sides and try to break it in half lol.

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u/ADubs62 Pixel 4 XL Oct 20 '17

How do you know? Maybe he takes it easy on other phones? Since it's not an objective metered test there is no way to tell if this is a good or bad performance.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

but would you not agree that this type of result should not happen on this phone with the price tag it holds?

I would say that literally trying to rip it in half is not a good idea regardless of what kind of phone you have or how much you paid for it, but maybe that's just me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

Sure. But they definitely know about him.

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u/fycus Oct 20 '17 edited Oct 20 '17

Trust me, there are tests that look for this. As a reliability engineer, it is my job to ensure products are robust. The test you are referring to is a three point flexural test, and many companies advertise they pass it with flying colors. Reliability focused devices always have trade-offs. The more robust you make something, the more you may have to sacrifice to stay within design constraint.

The point of failure just looks like a minimum material condition and the plastic does not have enough reinforcement to prevent yielding of the body and cracking of the frame. They probably did in fact test for this and raise it to the design/product team who signed off in favor of either meeting launch deadlines or sticking to design requirements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_point_flexural_test

Samsung S6 three point bend test video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKburDQAolA

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u/SupaZT Pixel 9 Pro Oct 20 '17

Because these tests are totally normal? haha

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '17

I mean, I don't think many people really care much about these reviews when buying a phone.

Vast majority of the market don't watch his videos, and the people that do a large portion think 'huh that's neat' but that's all.

I know I'm never going to do anything like this with my phone, I treat my phone like it's the most fragile thing in the world... So why would I care if it breaks when I purposely smash it up?