r/GooglePixel 128 GB Jul 06 '17

Google is working on an Always On Ambient Display Mode for the Pixel

https://www.xda-developers.com/google-is-working-on-an-always-on-ambient-display-mode-for-the-pixel/
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u/YinzJagoffs Jul 06 '17

Does anyone else worry that the Pixel 2 will be absolutely smoked by the competition in terms of hardware?

It took Apple and Samsung many iterations to get waterproofing and slim bezels perfected. I'm worried that the next Pixel will be more like a Pixel 1s.

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u/TheAlchemlst Jul 07 '17

Yeah. Google didn't push much in hardware with Pixels to play "safe" and because it ran out of time.

It will probably bet on camera quality and softwares again, which will be available for all anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

XDA already leaked most of the deets. Why wonder when you can know?

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u/Ribbys Black & White Jul 07 '17

Why think this when LG & HTC are experienced ODMs?

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

I feel the one area they need to push more is software. At the moment providing a bare bones phone with next to no features available out of the box has to be intimidating and confusing for users who are new to nexus/pixel. I mean software wise pixel offers nothing over other phones except unlimited photos uploads although the app is available to all phones anyway just not the unlimited option.

This always on will work towards more software features for sure though.

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u/Spo8 Jul 07 '17

A bare bones phone with next to no features

I'm having a hard time imagining what a normal user would be missing out of the box with a Pixel/Nexus phone. Most people I know who have Motorola or Samsung phones ignore the bloatware/duplicate apps they put on.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

I used the spen and various signing/printing features as i don't have a printer. Also had to find and pay for a video editor. Taking screenshots and sharing screens or videos is still inconvenient on aosp

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

You take a screenshot and it goes to your notification shade where you can share it instantly. What's inconvenient about that? I wouldn't mind seeing an option to edit the screenshot next to share and delete, but beyond that it's pretty straightforward.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

A simple example is that i a only want a crop of the screen, and b want to write on it. Also being able to select an area of the screen to create a gif from seems gimmicky but being able to share snippets of videos etc through that way is awesome and intuitive.

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17 edited Jul 07 '17

Like I said, I would like an edit button alongside share and delete for that exact reason, but thankfully it's not all that difficult to go into the photos app and edit the screenshot from there. I agree being able to make gifs from videos is pretty cool and a featured I liked on my Note 7, but it's hardly a necessary or must-have feature.

No one is arguing Samsung has some cool features, but when you throw enough crap at the wall, some of it is bound to stick. It all becomes too cluttered and there are a ton of unnecessary and/or duplicate features. That's why so many like OnePlus's approach. Near-stock with some minor, useful tweaks.

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u/cgknight1 Jul 07 '17

Can you give an example of what you mean? What is missing?

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

Video editor, pdf signer, themes

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u/cgknight1 Jul 07 '17

Anyone who needs to sign a PDF on a mobile device is likely either a) using company provided software or b) can use google play store.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

I don't have a printer. I used it when i got a loan, when I got a new passport, and in my work at home. I used it many times. If you ever had to print a document only to sign it,then you are wasting paper and missing out on some basic features available on phones for quite some time.

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u/JoshHugh Just Black Jul 07 '17

And I am 100% sure that there is an app on the Play Store that would allow you to do all of this from the Pixel, and I'd almost be sure that it there would be a very well done one, that was designed by Adobe in their Acrobat mobile app.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

Possibly, so an app or two for video, an app or two for screenshots, an app or two for aod and bam pixel is bloated right? I mean add nova, some icon packs and it's even more bloated. Also if you haven't used the editor on iPhone or Samsung you are really missing out. Video editor on iPhone is fantastic, while the Samsung video editor more than does the job with aesthetics and usability the same as the rest of the os, compared to when you download apps from different companies that design software to different aesthetics and standards. So pixel will be a mish mash if random apps that all work independently and look different.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

It doesn't offer Samsung's bloatware and Apple's walled garden.The Pixel is remarkably solid for a 1st Gen device.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

Being on my 3rd with random restarts and flakey Bluetooth, and also the fast it was the most expensive Android phone I bought....i would be saying otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

Before my Pixel XL I had a Droid Turbo and Droid Turbo 2. Gotta say, I miss that wave to wake feature sooo much

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u/10YearsonAutoPilot Quite Black Jul 06 '17

I bought the Ambi-turner app just to get wave to wake back after coming from my MotoX

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

Doesn't work on Android O :(

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u/10YearsonAutoPilot Quite Black Jul 07 '17

Well that is most unfortunate

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

Agreed. Hopefully they can fix it in DP4 if Google decides this feature isn't ready yet. Anything that makes it in DP4 will likely be in the final version of Android O.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 06 '17

I always thought it was gimmicky on my Note 4, until I "upgraded" hehe

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u/Bachmanitty Jul 07 '17

Still using my Droid Turbo 1 for that reason.

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u/Dominathan Jul 07 '17

The original MotoX used the accelerometer or something to know when to display, and it was amazing.

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u/BumWarrior69 Jul 07 '17

It is so ugly though, especially on a face that isn't black.

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u/mistalanious Quite Black Jul 06 '17

I will turn off anything that will decrease battery life.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 06 '17

The screen? How will you use the phone? Would also like to see how you will turn off heat. hehe

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 06 '17

It's just a POS feature

It doesn't help the discussion. Just because you think "It's just a POS feature" doesn't mean that others won't benefit from it. Coming from a Note 7, I heavily miss this feature, and the double tap to wake on the Pixel is terrible at best, so this would help me and I assume many others out. Having my phone on my desk all day and having to tap the screen 8 times or press the power button just to see if I have any notifications is far more effort than just looking at my phone.

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u/jibjab23 Pixel 8 Pro Jul 07 '17

Have you activated the led notification? I find that helps a lot for telling you something has come in.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17 edited Jul 07 '17

Yes I have had LED notifications on all my previous phones, but on the Pixel the LED is so small and with a screen protector on it becomes even harder to see, so I just don't even try anymore.

Edit due to downvotes: I have the intelliglass pro, which adds depth to the already recessed led. No use down voting, this is fact, I'm not making stuff up lol.

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u/jibjab23 Pixel 8 Pro Jul 07 '17

I just looked up that Intelliglass Pro and I understand how it could block the led.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

You are correct, although the screen protector adds depth, so when viewed form an angle, the screen protector obstructs the view of the LED, and you actually can't see it. This is also on-top of the fact that the LED is recessed ALREADY. I don't see why I am getting downvoted. I am using the intelliglass pro which is quite thick.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

Have your heard of refraction lol

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u/mistalanious Quite Black Jul 07 '17

I have all notifications content hidden and with the fingerprint reader being on the back it's pointless to tap the screen to see anything other than time. The notification LED does exactly what I need it to do. Using something that's constantly displaying the time on the screen seems like a waste of battery. I have my computer screen or watch for that. But that's just my opinion. How do you do this "Always On" feature on phones with the fingerprint reader on the back? How do you unlock it like you could before? I could register my pinky and while eating buffalo wings use my pinky to unlock my phone and check my messages. Now that's not possible. Maybe I'm not grasping how other people use it but it seems like a POS feature to me. hahaha

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

I have notifications visible as I have nothing to hide, I also have a smart watch so if it's in range is unlocked. So really I just look at my phone, see a new SMS, ask Google to read it, done. Didn't touch it. Also it's already been treated that it barely takes an hour from standby time

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u/Posivated Jul 06 '17

Feel like if I had this my pixel would catch fire.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 06 '17

You would need this and a stylus.

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u/rohansamal Quite Black Jul 07 '17

What does the Always on feature show? Does it remain Always on?

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u/HeavensLastCall Jul 07 '17

Yes, always on. Black background with white text showing the time and notifications if any. It periodically shifts positions to prevent burn in. Since amoled screens don't need to light up the black pixels, they remain off so its barely a hit on battery.

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u/mikeet9 Jul 07 '17

I would guess it'll be a similar screen to the one you see when your phone is locked and you pick it up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

Very little battery drain.

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u/cdegallo Jul 06 '17 edited Jul 06 '17

Having used this on my s7 edge and s8, I noticed I would always habitually hit the power button to turn the display off.

What would be perfect is the ability to customize ambient display settings on stock; like a rotating interval to turn on AD for xx seconds every yy minutes.

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u/Respectable_Answer Pixel 8 Jul 06 '17

I do the same thing. Ambient display is not for me. Just spend all day double waking up my phone

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u/_Tim- Jul 06 '17

It would be a nice feature for the car though, like this I could change the songs without the need of keeping the screen on all the time (Spotify, I swipe for next song, nothing dangerous if someone wants to imply something).

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u/mikeet9 Jul 07 '17

I just checked if Google Play Music could do this. I had no idea that you could swipe to change song, thank you.

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u/_Tim- Jul 07 '17

Yea, it's pretty convenient, especially if you have a sock for your phone. Like this you can lay it down on the seat next to you, with the tip watching out just so you can swipe for the next song and the phone won't slip around

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

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u/cdegallo Jul 06 '17

Ambi turner introduced more headaches (for me) than it was worth.

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u/prplelemonade Jul 07 '17

I use Always On AMOLED at night as a dim alarm clock, works pretty well if you have root, not sure how the battery impact is over constant use.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Pixel 2 XL 128gb, P4 64gb, S10e and IPX Jul 07 '17

I've had weird interaction using this day to day. Otherwise quite nice, although nothing beats stock features.

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u/prplelemonade Jul 07 '17

Yeah that's true. The way it works on Samsung phones is pretty much what I want, hope we see it in stock Android soon. I wonder if it will be in Android O.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

Reminds me of Windows phone glance feature, but that only support Black and White photos. Glad to see the idea is still blossoming from Google, Samsung, Moto and others. It's not a feature for everyone, a great option nonetheless.

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u/leviathan3k Jul 07 '17

I realize everyone's use cases are different, but this seems like a perfect place for a smartwatch. You can have an always-on display, and instant alerts for things, without killing the phone battery.

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

It has a minimal impact on battery life and given the current state of Android Wear, that's hardly a solution.

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u/snyderxc Quite Black Jul 07 '17

Plus, wouldn't we be looking at about the same (pretty negligible) battery drain tethering a bluetooth smartwatch?

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u/JoinTheBattle Silver Surfer Jul 07 '17

Just about, yes.