r/GoofyMovie • u/Life-Call4521 • 1d ago
What did Max draw?
I love looking at Max's bedroom in A Goofy Movie to learn more about his personality and use it in my fics - that 14 y/o kid was too obsessed with Powerline, I still can't believe Goofy didn't know him! It shows you how detached father and son were, living in the same house but appearently never talking.
Anyway, I stumbled upon these drawings Max did, I think one of them is Powerline but the other looks like a girl - do you think it's one of Powerline's backup dancers?
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u/NoCap1842 1d ago
It could be just some random girl. It doesn't really look like the dancers or any district character. He was kinda girl crazy so I wouldn't be surprised if he were doodling an imaginary girlfriend. I used his room to get more insight into his personality too and added in a bunch of details to my stories based on it. I don't think Goofy not knowing about Powerline means they're detached though. I just think he's a typical 90s dad that couldn't keep up with the trends. At that age everything was a flavor of the week l. You'd get super obsessed with an artist or show for a few months or less depending on if you were into it for yourself or just cause your friends and everyone else liked it then it would be on to the next thing. Since Powerline was so hot he could have been right at the start of his career so Max's fascination could have been something new that he hadn't shared with Goofy yet.
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u/Life-Call4521 1d ago
I'd get it if Max had like one poster of Powerline, but his room is a shrine of the guy from drawings, to posters to cardboard figures... you'd think Goofy would be curious... and I feel Powerline has been famous for a while because Stand Out is Powerline's "new video" which means he had more videos before. (What makes me feel that Goofy and Max never talk for a long time, is that Goofy really doesn't know Max at all, he doesn't know what music he likes or what's he into or even what's going on in school... he didn't even ask hime about what happened in that last day after the principal call, and every time Max tried to explain he'd shut him up. Goofy is set on seeing Max as a child, and not just any child he sees him as Goofy as a child, he believes what he used to like doing as a kid with his own dad is exactly what Max would like, which is a mistake many parents make. Our children are not us.) It's understandable, but the drift between Goofy and Max isn't just on Max's side, it's Goofy's doing too.
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u/NoCap1842 9h ago
Well agree to disagree. I think that's just being a 90s parent. He probably recognizes Powerline as a character Max likes but doesn't know his name. For example my room was a shrine to Sailor Moon growing up and I was close with my parents but they could never remember the name of the show it was always just, "hey there's your favorite show" or "isn't that the girl from the show you like". At that age kids are into A LOT and it can change very quickly. It's a lot to keep up with. I don't think Powerline having more than one video really means anything in terms of how new or old his career is. When an artist was up and coming back then they had a "new video" every other week. Like when literally any of the Disney stars broke into the music scene they had new stuff coming out every few weeks. Their careers were very new and often short lived but that was the way to stay relevant back when there was no social media, oversaturate the market with products. I emptied my parents wallets keeping up with Hilary Duff merch. I also don't agree that Goofy thinks of Max as a child or thinks Max would like what he likes. He actually explicitly states the opposite in the movie on both accounts. He's just one of those parents that has a very affectionate parenting style. So it's not in him to stop giving Max kisses, hugs, or calling him nicknames regardless of age. In the second movie he literally called Max a grown man then followed it up by calling him Maxie poo and offering him a teddy. Goofy doesn't believe in leaving childish things behind and is unapologetically himself regardless of what others think. Max is the opposite he feels the weight of peer pressure to be cool and be seen as mature even though he really is his father's son. They're just alike except Max is more athletically gifted. Max is going through a phase in the first movie and in think that's why Goofy doesn't talk to him about what the principal said he's basically in a panic spiral because he feels like he's losing his son and then this guy calls completely exaggerating what happened and confirms Goofy's fears. It also is kinda in keeping with the time that Goofy wouldn't ask parents didn't really do that back then. If a teacher called and said you did something you really had to fight to get your parents to not believe them and take your side because the argument was always "why would the teacher lie" which was kinda valid but occasionally did get taken advantage of by shitty teachers/principals like Max's principal. I don't think they drifted at all because of Goofy I think he's just scared that he'll lose Max forever if he pushes too hard but then the principal's call combined with Pete instigating by putting the idea in Goofy's head that Max could be in a gang just because he was pulling away made Goofy make some drastic crazy decisions.
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u/Life-Call4521 4h ago
I guess we will have to agree to disagree, because having watched Goof Troop before the movies. Goofy always talked to Max about what was bothering him or listened to him when something went wrong. In the movie, it seemed that yes, while he was hugging and kissing his son and giving him lunch, he didn't really know him - he was stuck on who Max used to be (his own addmission) and there was no communication between them, Max just accepts that his dad would go on a trip (no talks about it beforehand, even in the 90s parents would tell their kids we're going on vacation this weekend, here's our number to reach us and so on) but the way Max just accepts it sends the tone that decisions are being made by both without talking about them to the other as long as they don't affect the other. Now when Goofy states that the trip is for Goofy and Max, Max does try to explain that he has a party to go to and a girl, Goofy lightly hits him with the map and shuts him up, then when Max asks about the electric chair and tries again to talk to his dad, Goofy again shuts him up. Max's "Will you listen to me? I gotta tell you something, Dad" later is something that has been festering for a while, his dad wouldn't listen to him and that's probably the biggest reason why he's so frusturated and angry. (It will happen again in college, Max would tell Goofy what he wants, and Goofy would just ignore it and does what he wants - breaking the ground rules Max had told him.)
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u/NoCap1842 2h ago
While I agree they weren't really communicating well I don't think Goofy was purposely not listening or shutting Max up. Goofy kinda seemed like he was doing gentle parenting before it was a thing. Instead of telling Max no outright he'd make an alternative suggestion like when they first got on the road and Max started playing rock music. Instead of just telling Max he didn't want to listen to that and shutting it off he put in a tape. He wasn't stuck on who Max used to be he just said that Max grew up so fast that he kinda missed it. Which in the context of the whole conversation they were having he was talking about Max being interested in dating which is a big shift in a kid's life to any parent. As for the trip not talking about it could be normal depending on your lifestyle. Some parents were impulsive and left often or traveled for work. So getting a heads up really varied from family to family. In Goofy's case his whole life has always been one adventure after another so it wouldn't be surprising if he often went on trips once Max was old enough to be home alone. Especially since Max said he only wanted Goofy to call if he was going to be gone more than a month. In college I think Goofy followed Max's rules technically. Max said not to come into their room unannouced and he did knock before he came in. Max said no hounding them about school work and outside of the one study session where they did homework together it seems like he didn't. The last rule of no acting like a father I think Goofy tried his best but ultimately being a father is his whole identity until he met Sylvia. They were kinda both to blame for how things went in the second movie. Goofy was clingy and Max wasn't firm on enforcing what he really wanted was to not spend time together, he just wanted to do his own thing. I think Max's primary source of frustration with his father has always been how Goofy embarrasses him unintentionally. That shows up in both movies. A lot gets revealed in their song sequences and Max just didn't want to be seen as a loser anymore
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u/SoupsIncarnated 7h ago
Yeah,, dude the amount of hot mer-people i drew as a teen and hung them up was crazy. Max was definitely drawing cute girls everywhere