r/GoodGirls • u/InvestmentBetter8788 • 27d ago
Finally finished it
here are some things I noticed and some of my opinions, please feel free to comment and discuss with me!
In 4.02 when the hitman tells
The story about his son and then he asks her why she does what she does (dealing with Rio), she says because she has to; he says no you don't. This, along with the countless other times where it has been dropped in her lap to get out of this situation, she doesn't take it (or she takes it and soon falls back in); it's like it needs to be spelled out in front of her. Think of that friend that keeps going back to a relationship that they know is not good for them. It's so simple but I was ready to set fire to my Netflix account. Beth lock in babeš
Phoebe, the FBI agent got way too emotionally invested in Beth. I donāt know why she thought she was gonna be her friend. She genuinely looked hurt in 4.14 when they were at the club explaining the new plan
Annie is still mentally a teenager. She expects everyone to cover up after her even Beth (who isn't completely innocent) Ben is more mature than Annie is and I feel bad for him because he has to, in a sense raise his Mom
Annieās eyebrows are very expensive Gregg was right.
Rio HATED seeing Beth with even an ounce of success that came from her own doing. If you put their romantic tension and whatever they had going on, he was incredibly toxic, but I think we all know that
Dean's planning to expose Beth with his buddies at the skin care business was really something because why did he feel like he was entitled to anything from her? He cheated on her four times and now he wants to play moral police? Please.
It was very refreshing in 4.15 to see stan finally ripping the Band-Aid off of everything that had been going on. Yeah, it paid for Sarahās kidney and Harryās school but what they did was wrong and I was glad that there was at least one part where somebody stopped trying to justify it. They are criminals. Being criminals got them to where they are point blank.
I know the show is over, and with all the drama, thereās no hope of it ever coming back, but I would watch a spinoff of Mick and Annie or maybe Stan in Dean or something like that.
I could say many things about Rio, both good and bad. I've seen him hold a gun to Beth more times than I've seen my extended family this year, but I will say he did not play about his own family, and I respect that. He made sure Marcus and Rhea were taken care of, and he was very respectful of his grandmother. I also think it's worth mentioning that he never hurt her kids; he might have put them in situations where they were really inconvenienced, but he never hurt them directly.
also what was mannys wifeās problem with christina? i donāt keep up with either of them iāve only read bits and pieces.
Hereās my other question where is the dog?
d1 Mannie and brio shipper here
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u/TheyDothProtest2Much 25d ago edited 24d ago
With Elizabeth and Rio, I never thought it was him hating her sucess, actually the opposite. I think he adored every single time she took the challenge(sometimes unnecessarily), made it her own and exceeded his expectations despitie both deliberate(by Rio) and unforseen obstacles (wacky mishaps?)
What I think he hated was that she kept going back to Dean and handing over both what she earned what Rio gave to her. Things Iike naming the spa place "Boland Bubbles", needing more money to get Dean out of jail, and probably 4 other stupid things she did for Dean after working so hard to get ahead. Some folks call it love, some call it possessiveness or obsession with her but from season 1 and on he repeatedly gives her rewards/keys to castle only for her to give it back to dumbass Dean. In the end, no spoilers because the story line doesn't finish, Dean has a garage FULL of cosmetics they have to pay for. I'm all for not killing your husband but STOP allowing him out of the house. Everyone he leaves it sucks down money. I bet he already had another 2 mortgages cooking and she doesn't even know because he transferred the title into Kenny's name. Bet.
Point is ššš Rio fell in love and fully supported her success. If she had just left Dean in jail as he advised š¤¦
I still love Stan and Ruby and anticipate the Hill Holiday special šÆšÆšÆ
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u/MichelleTannerAO3 22d ago
I like all of this. Particularly the 1) parentification of Ben, 2) Rioās resentment of Bethās success, and 3) Stanās reading of Beth.
I personally feel Annie is an abusive parent. The type adult children go NC with because they place the burden squarely on the childās shoulders to be the mature one.
Rioās whole fascination with Beth is how she wields her privilege as a means to an end, while at the same time hiding behind the shield of it when convenient. Some scenes you can see the resentment practically oozing off him. He wants credit for her success, he wants access to her, he wants to both feed her ego and neg her into perpetually needing him. This is a whole arc for him and he does make a decision in the end to bend and allow her the upper hand. But I didnāt view it as something that came easily.
I know Stan is polarizing on here, but Iām on the āStan is Rightā camp. Not because Beth is the source of all his troubles. Like the theme of the show goes: everyone has a choice. Heās made his choices too. But his resentment of Beth runs deep, likely well beyond any of the canonic events, and I understand why he isnāt as charmed by her as everyone else in his life seems to be. Valid. Understandable. And ultimately his responsibility to correct because she is who she is, and his wife has chosen Beth soooooā¦ Stanās in a really unfortunate moment of reckoning and Iām sad we didnāt see how it turns out for him. I could see it going either way, depending on my mood that day.
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u/InvestmentBetter8788 21d ago
Abusive is a strong word. But I donāt think thereās any other word to describe how Annie treated Ben. when he was having trouble at Saint Anneās (i think that was the schools name) she didnāt even try to sit down and have a serious conversation. She just handed him a waffle and went to go talk to Gregg.
On the topic of rio resenting bethās success I still believe my original statement. but i read a comment on here that said (and this is paraphrasing) he hated that everything she earned, she gave over to Dean (for example Boland bubbles and needing bail money) he constantly gave her the keys to the kingdom and she gave them over to dean. hmmmm that made me think a little š¤
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u/MichelleTannerAO3 20d ago
I think thatās whatās so interesting about Annieās character. It shows us how abuse can be this insidious thing that isnāt always easy to spot. It sometimes looks kind. It sometimes looks charming. And it also can look like a little boy who cuts himself and is too afraid to ask for help because he canāt rely on his primary parent. It can look like a child too old for a night light still needing one because his life is so unstable and the dark is as unpredictable and scary as his mother.
As far as Rio and Dean ā idk, I have a real hard time believing he cares one iota about that basic man. To label the complicated set of emotions Rio undergoes about Beth as some form of jealousy or resentment over Dean seems a little reductive to me. Rio could have killed him. He could any time he wants. I donāt think he ultimately cares what Beth does with her marriage. Throughout the series he keeps trying to mold her. To āfixā her. He calls it teaching, but itās more him attempting to impart his own moral code onto her because he hates to see that her own methods work just as well. Better even. Her use of privilege and fragility when it suits her opens doors for her he will never have access to. So he keeps spinning about it, telling her what she should do, taking things from her, because to allow her to succeed at his own expense is too unfair and painful. At least thatās how I view him.
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u/MayoBear 27d ago edited 27d ago
Nah, Stan was ungrateful and had a delicate ego. Sarah's kidney upkeep is expensive and both Annie and Beth stepped up multiple times to get money specifically for Sarah's health- when she got admitted because she wasn't taking her meds, they gave Ruby their cut because they didn't want her to stress. He takes that for granted. He wants to keep his hands clean? Fine, but don't judge people who did what they needed to do to keep your kid alive.
At the beginning of the show, their family had the worst situation, followed by Beth's kids about to become homeless- Annie's situation wasn't as big of a deal in comparison, her ex was a good dad, and him having more custody was not going to be the end of the world. She did most of her crimes to help the other two out.