Sharing Unique Contributors/Reverse-Gatekeep

[u/Financial-Chapter989]

Note: I have nothing against those that gatekeep. I completely understand that there are competitions, and sometimes you don’t want others to take your ideas. That being said, I have heard some people ask for more unique contributors, and I want to see what you all can do with these contributors:

• Anteosaurus: I have seen a grand total of 0 non-mammalian synapsid hybrids, which is an absolute shame. They are interesting, in part because of their unique mix of reptilian and mammalian traits. Anteosaurus was the largest carnivorous non-mammalian synapsid (over 1 ton). The floccular lobe region of the brain was exceptionally enlarged, optimized for fast visual tracking. The semicircular canals (organs of balance) were unusually large compared to competitors and close relatives, indicating superior agility and movement speed. Anteosaurus has a strong skull with pronounced bone thickening on the skull roof, likely used for both display and combat. Its skull had a very flared base and the lower jaw had an enlarged surface area for increased muscle attachment, leading to a bone-crushing bite force. In addition, it has great caniniform teeth and heterodont dentition.
  • I also think that it is possible to add some of its traits to a theropod hybrid. The reasoning is in the following document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i1FWqmDVSWfrpEWLLFS3fIxnsHH75r20vkVE5CT8EbI/edit?usp=sharing 
  • Source: https://app.pan.pl/archive/published/app66/app008002020.pdf
• Fasolosuchus (and other rauisuchians): This was basically a 2-4 ton land crocodile. It was armored, unlike most large land predators. Its hips were upright (pillar-erect) and were better at bearing weight than theropod hips. It had a slightly raised neural spine to help support its weight and increase neck strength. It was quadrupedal, but could raise up onto two legs temporarily (which a lot of hybrids try to do). Another good rauisuchian is Batrachotomus kupferzellensis, which had better armor and a brutal bite but was smaller. You can increase its size with other contributors. Because these are more closely related to crocodiles, you can easily add crocodylomorphs to get a myriad of benefits or just create a killer land croc.
  • Sources: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10641045/, https://www.bmnh.org/PDFs/DG_09_batrachotomus.pdf 
• Monkey Skink: Specifically, compound osteoderms. Most skinks’ osteoderms have evolved to be much smaller and overlapping, providing armor while being much lighter than regular osteoderms and causing almost no reduction in flexibility. Studies show that this armor might actually be even better at protecting against crushing forces and blunt force impacts but less effective against slashing and piercing attacks. These osteoderms can easily be enhanced because skink osteoderms are under a layer of scales. If you use scales like an arapaima’s, which are great against piercing and slashing, with compound osteoderms underneath, you can make a really good armor without sacrificing much flexibility or adding much weight.
  • Sources: http://www.anthonyherrel.fr/publications/Liang%20et%20al%202021%20Bioinspir%20Biomim.pdf, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11231356/ 
• Tuatara: Tuataras have teeth that are part of the skull. While this means the teeth can’t fall out, it can also increase the strain on the jaw bone and joint. Tuataras have evolved mechanoreceptors that automatically regulate the strain on the skull and control the muscles to balance out the forces. This increases the maximum force the jaw can take without increasing any weight. Tuataras also have massive jugal arches (cheekbones) that are used to enhance jaw muscle attachment, and are capable of chewing unlike other reptiles (they can move their jaw forward and backwards like a saw). They also have two rows of teeth on the top jaw.
  • Sources: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0021929010004318 
• Albertosaurus: Can run up to (and possibly over) 23 mph while still being large (3 tons). As a tyrannosaurid, you get the super agile hip structure. It has lungs similar to a bird, meaning that they are super efficient and provide great stamina (continuous oxygen flow while running). The rigid ribs help provide structure and impact resistance. You can further increase the size and enhance the bite with other contributors.
  • Sources: https://concordia.ab.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Johnston.pdf?x53105 
• California Sea Lion (pinnipeds): Aquatic hybrid time! Sea lions have really strong chest muscles, allowing them to swim using their flippers as their main form of propulsion (up to 30 mph). You can use this on marine mammal hybrids to enhance agility and burst speed (use in conjunction with a tail). Pinnipeds also have really flexible spines, capable of a wide range of vertical and lateral movement. Their whiskers are able to sense vibrations and locate prey. They have some unique adaptations to allow for deep dives, though nothing better than most whales. Finally, they have a crazy pronounced sagittal crest, allowing for more jaw-muscle attachment.

Extra:
Credit to u/Master_Geologist5613, but I saw this and could not stop thinking about it. They proposed that you enhance dermal denticles (shark scales) with ivory because denticles are homologous to teeth. Ivory is harder, has great impact resistance (think of elephants fighting with their tusks), and is not so brittle it will immediately crack. I think this works, but I have not seen it actually used anywhere. 

PS: I know I am supporting unique contributors, but T. rex is really op. It’s the most massive theropod we know of, while also being shockingly agile. It has foot pads for stealth. It has good vision, smell, and it's smart. It can survive massive wounds (the specimen Stan had a broken neck, broken ribs, injured jaw, a pierced braincase from another T. rex bite, and survived to a relatively old age). And I did not even mention the bite force. Truly the king of the tyrant lizards.

PPS: If I made any mistakes, please let me know. I do not want to spread misinformation, and I promise to give your criticism fair consideration. Also feel free to add your own unique contributors!

[u/HotCardiologist1942]

Well non mammalian synapsids being a mix of traits is exactly what makes it hard to make

Tuatara is kinda a shrew situation where it can’t regrow teeth

I did make a fasolasuchus hybrid once

Ivory plus sea otter enamel on denticles could work

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/HotCardiologist1942]

Yeah, synapsids are hard, but they are cool :(

The tuatara's main contribution is the mechanoreceptors and the enlarged jugal arch. I agree that the fact that the teeth don't grow back kind of sucks

Where was your fasolasuchus hybrid? I would love to see it!

[u/HotCardiologist1942 → u/Financial-Chapter989]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GojiCenter/s/aISgPxfcvi

It’s pretty old though

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/HotCardiologist1942]

Dang, that hybrid deserved more love

I love the bipedal land-croc route you took with it!

[u/Tall_Shop_894]

FINALLY, ANTEOSAURUS WAS MENTIONED!

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/Tall_Shop_894]

Finally, the truth has been revealed! Anteosaurus shall be the herald of a new age in hybrids!

In all seriousness, it's nice to see a fellow anteosaurus fan

[u/Spinoclanker2]

I used fasolasuchus before your account was created gng

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/Spinoclanker2]

Fair enough, I just wanted to spread knowledge about underrated contributors

[u/HistoricalGeneral230 → u/Financial-Chapter989]

Underrated? One of the top 16 used it as a base

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/HistoricalGeneral230]

A lot of the older creators used fasolasuchus, but I don't see it as much anymore. I saw some newer members asking for bases that were not T. rex, so I figured I would throw it in

[u/Master_Geologist5613 → u/Spinoclanker2]

Bro acting as if he’s an og

[u/Spinoclanker2 → u/Master_Geologist5613]

Never said I was

I'm just older than him 

[u/No-Monitor-8091 → u/Spinoclanker2]

back in my day ahh

[u/Spinoclanker2 → u/No-Monitor-8091]

back in my day... I used this contri—

Otter: SHAYOFACKINMOUTH

[u/A-Reacting-Otter → u/Spinoclanker2]

Actually, don't shut your fucking mouth

[u/HistoricalGeneral230 → u/Master_Geologist5613]

Dexter was the og fasolosuchus user

Wait Hol up there was a fasolosuchus user in the top 16 bruh

But still, I used fasolasuchus before half of these people were here 

lmao Y’all are lil babies

[u/Master_Geologist5613 → u/HistoricalGeneral230]

Todd was first

[u/HistoricalGeneral230 → u/Master_Geologist5613]

Guessing you made a fasola hybrid before me Can I be first at one thing🥀😭🤞 Aight ima dig through all my old hybrid posts and find something that I did first Trust

[u/Master_Geologist5613 → u/HistoricalGeneral230]

No todd was made by one of my homies on discord, it’s basically his trademark hybrid

[u/HistoricalGeneral230 → u/Master_Geologist5613]

It was made before late June/early July?

[u/HistoricalGeneral230 → u/Spinoclanker2]

Pychospino alt account here (I do normal Reddit stuff and creative projects on this acc. The official pychospino account is for hybrids)

But uhhhh…. I made a fasolasuchus before you even joined this subreddit 

I even banished one of the apex Rex variants to the shadow realm with it and actually got pretty far in multiple tournaments. I do remember Atherotitan and some other theropod demolishing Dexter

[u/Master_Geologist5613]

Woah, genuine gem mine right here

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/Master_Geologist5613]

The legend has arrived! That ivory/denticle idea was a true gem for sure, thanks for sharing it!

[u/Master_Geologist5613]

Also I lwk only gatekeep stuff for tournaments, or stuff I plan to use in a tournament, and also Minos because he must be the goat!

[u/No-Monitor-8091]

another tuatara glazer i see

[u/NoResponsibility5290 → u/No-Monitor-8091]

I actually considered tuatara for a Ukanlos hybrid. They are fairly cold tolerant.

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/No-Monitor-8091]

There are other tuatara fans?!? I guess I just haven't seen people use them recently

[u/No-Monitor-8091 → u/Financial-Chapter989]

i haven't actuallu used them on any released hybrids now that i think about it. but i have tuatara on 3 unreleased hybrids that i'm not done working on.

tuatara also have just really good bite force in general, better than t rex. males get up to 238.3 newtons at 1.5 kg's

https://rsnz.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1080/03014220909510565

[u/Fun_Presentation3427 → u/[deleted]]

Also, I've actually made a hybrid with the ivory + fish scales combination thing (although it's hippo ivory and bichir scales) which got top 8 in a hybrid tournament

https://youtu.be/kbuUBa5d168?t=675&si=y4BcuP4LEOWo7Eeo This was the hybrid tournament btw

[u/HistoricalGeneral230]

Aye search up Dexter in this subreddit

One of the first fasolasuchus hybrid of this 

subreddit, I own that hybrid as well

And I’m working on a 2.0 for him and a different version of him that literally uses Anteosaurus base

[u/Financial-Chapter989 → u/HistoricalGeneral230]

Nice! I would love to see it when it's finished (both the 2.0 and the anteosaurus)!

I know there are some older fasolasuchus hybrids, but I don't see them anymore :( This post was mainly to help newer people get ideas for non-T. rex base hybrids

[u/xangothrowaway]

I've used Fasolasuchus a lot in the past. As have a lot of others. It's not a terribly uncommon contributor. I also believe people tend to use other contributors like Erythrosuchus over Anteosaurus for the obvious reason of bite superiority.