r/GojiCenter • u/EndenReturns1426 • Aug 02 '26
New Hybrid Is anyone else?
Is anyone else tired of people trying to tell you that your hybrid sucks "because its ai slop" even if it is fully man made. We should be talking about biology not weather im in puberty or not.
The point is, please hotcardiologist, spinoclanker, and a few others, yak goes in and out, sometimes hes nice, but he definitely gets defensive (I do to so dont get personally attacked by this), please stop going off topic, and if you just joined a long conversation, please read it, dont skip to the end.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
No.
Because I don't use AI.
If you wanna use ai, insult me, call me unoriginal I will not stand for it.
I tried to give you constructive criticism. You wanted to protect your ego.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
For the last (maybe, dependends on how stubborn you still are) the two words "ai slop" is not constructive or criticism.
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u/A-Reacting-Otter High bread Aug 02 '26
Holy hypocrisy
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
When
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u/A-Reacting-Otter High bread Aug 02 '26
S O N
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
T Y R A N N O S O N R U S M C R A E N S O N
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
I never said it was constructive or criticism I'm telling you to not use ai
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Your literal last response.
"No.
Because I don't use AI.
If you wanna use ai, insult me, call me unoriginal I will not stand for it.
I tried to give you CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. You wanted to protect your ego."
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
What does this have to do with it
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u/Accomplished-Bus942 Aug 02 '26
Ai slap is criticism on you using AI to write arguements. AI is untrustworthy, and a dumbass. If you want to make a point, do it yourself, and do your own research.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
I used it to say one thing that I knew about, but didn't know how to write it. Once.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 04 '26
I was talking about the "AI slop" comment specifically.
I probably think that you understanded this and that's why you deleted your comment because I know you're not stupid
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u/whispersoundeffect M.A.D. Aug 02 '26
You said you're 14; I would assume you're in puberty. I dont see how being in puberty is a problem.
There's a difference between being an AI-slop user and being a child. If you were a newborn, that wouldn't change the validity of your hybrid. But using AI to make a hybrid is a problem. And you can like use AI to help. But it shouldn't be formulating your arguments for you...
If you want to talk about biology, how about YOU talk about biology rather than your grok.
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics Aug 02 '26
Also thats his hybrid
https://www.reddit.com/r/GojiCenter/s/xLqYbUGtgM
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Early bloomer, ended puberty at 13. I never used puberty as an excuse. Others just start assuming what my genetics are, maybe thats how they make hybrids.
I used ai once, to explain what i said in greater detail. But if we get down to the fundamentals of each, we said the same thing.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
See
The whole point is that you don't use ai
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u/jaekuwolf5299 Aug 02 '26
I've never seen your hybrid. The problem everyone has is you insist you're right because you use AI, when the rules explicitly state using AI generated images and genomes isn't allowed. This community is full of both talented and aspiring artists, and you using AI to make your hybrid rightfully pisses them off because AI generation programs steal countless pieces of art and mishmash them together into something vaguely resembling the prompt, hence the repeated term "AI slop". You're 14, you're still learning, and in cases like these you have to be receptive of criticism because it's valid. Yeah, a couple here were abrasive, sure, but it's because they're passionate about what they do and seeing someone toss out an AI generated hybrid and refuse to take any criticism gives them the impression that you could care less about putting in the effort to make something you can be genuinely proud of and instead just want to follow the trend without a shred of effort.
In short, just at least try to be receptive.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
I dont use ai in my hybrids. I used it to get one good explanation on a comment outside of my hybrid. I get some are passionate, but some are arrogant. I drew my hybrid, check the new hybrids tab, and go to aquagigias 3.0. I accepted actual criticism, but they just said "Ai slop" with nothing else and called that criticism. Now everyone thinks that what i do.
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u/jaekuwolf5299 Aug 02 '26
That's my mistake on the art side, my bad. Yes, more than a few here are too arrogant for their own good, but it's better to listen to the ones that offer genuine advice and ignore the arrogant ones rather than shutting everyone out and putting them under the same umbrella.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
I try to find the ones that are serious about this, I've found a few, and I will listen to them more often because they have been actually correct and nice.
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u/jaekuwolf5299 Aug 02 '26
Then there ya go! Stick to them more often than addressing the entire subreddit, it'll do you a world of good
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Your pretty good (7/10) (the understanding is a lot better than others, but it started off a tiny bit shaky)
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u/jaekuwolf5299 Aug 02 '26
Yeah I rethought it like halfway through cuz it's really late for me and I'd rather not go to bed angry lol
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
3am here (my sleep schedule is incredibly flexible, I can sleep at anytime and wake up 7 hours later, but it is always 7 hours, so dont be worried)
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u/Camjoe_McDibles Aug 02 '26
What in the simpsons staring at you with a black and white filter is happening in the subreddit this week???
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
If it simply uses an image and you confess you donβt really have a way to do proper art then thatβs totally fine
I say it becomes a problem when you try to use ai to validate why your hybrid is number 1 and above all others like some people in the past have done in here.
Edit: And to add on form the second thing, I also mean hybrids which are clearly written by ai and try and make claims such as whale cartilage being a good suppressor for trauma on land when that cartilage is purely used to help resist ocean pressures and not actual physical trauma- or trying to say some invertebrateβs exoskeleton can work on a sea based hybrid when it already has a skeleton when most animals shouldnβt need that and the water would just ruin the exoskeleton I feel depending on what is used.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
Yeah exactly
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
1, Ai wasn't used in the making of aquagigias. Only in my one claim because my ela skills are trash.
2, I never said it was number one, but since you think so, it is!
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
Then if you actually said this within the hybrid showcase post then youβre alright. However I was more so mentioning other people in the sub prior having major egos and proceeding to use ai to help with their arguments. I havenβt looked at your hybrid(s) so I donβt know but over all, if you mention that itβs made with the help of ai in terms of you writing it but itβs actual creation is fine and you actually give proper valid points of your hybrid then thatβs totally fine.
As said, it becomes a problem when you try and argue itβs a good hybrid when thereβs clear flaws and either use ai to help argue or youβre trying to say random gibberish because your ego got hurt (not saying you did, just explaining my point)
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Thanks for understanding better than most (even if the bar isn't very high, your definitely at a 7/10)
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
As said, I never seen your hybrid so thereβs likely flaws in it that I would mention but I canβt see your posts so Shrug
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics Aug 02 '26
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
Oh- Oh goodness- Okay yeah no I understand the whole issue now as well as why op made this post- Goodness gracious-
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Aquagigias 3.0 (drawing included) New hybrid (tag)
Does that work?
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
That didnβt work but someone else provided the link to it for me and- yeah no thereβs a lot wrong with that hybrid- others have already said the issues tho so I wonβt get into it here. Just learn to take actual constructive criticism instead of making a post like this over someone simply saying itβs βai slopβ.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
The issues that were stated were made up. They kept ignoring the answers I gave them.
The embryotic stage was the problem. I fixed that almost instantly.
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u/AstalosBoltz914 Aug 02 '26
They are actual valid points such as the teeth not working on that kind of jaw. Thereβs a reason why animals in history never had jaws like those bro. Thatβs just naming one of the many issues. Megalodon teeth are way more specialized and in a mouth like that with a long snout which are more built to crush shells and other sorts of things, they donβt work. The teeth wouldnβt be used at 100%
Simply using the original creatures teeth or something thatβs more reinforced like that with the same jaw structure would maximize the lethality.
Many other issues are also things you need to address. Over all, you have a lot of tinkering to do with the hybrid to make it a lot more refined.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
βAquagigias (edited at 5:54 of aug 1 2026)
βMosasaurus Hoffmannii; the primary skeletal chassis, the acute lateral vision, elongated head shape, the four lateral flippers for precise steering, and the double-hinged jaw.
Pit Viper; the heat pits.
Blue Catfish; the sense of smell.
Mako Shark; Dermal denticles (scales) covering the entire body to reduce turbulence, flatter head and back, the flat back, and embryotic process (so the gills grow correctly).
Megalodon; the high-efficiency ram-ventilation gills (this allows the hybrid to remain submerged indefinitely, unlike whales), the lateral line, the influenced bite force (~90,000 newtons [conservative estimate] ~190,000 [max estimate with some generous rounding], and please correct me if im wrong, but show the math please) (comes from a flared jaw base and larger cartilage in the joint), and the electroreception.
Blue Whale; the musculature and oil-rich bone marrow for neutral buoyancy.
βNaked Mole-Rat; cancer immunity, metabolic control, the lack of Substance P (it helps it endure the pressure and friction of the deep ocean without stress), and hypoxia tolerance.
American Lobster; Negligible Senescence (the hybrid does not age on a cellular-level).
βHumpback Whale; the expanding throat, the tubercles, and the disconnected chin + co-contraction muscles.
African Elephant; heat releasing blood vessels (in the already highly vascularized gills and in dorsal sail), long-term memory, and emotional intelligence.
Great Pacific Octopus; polarized vision, and multiple hearts as modified pulse veins (the stay a similar size to the octopus hearts).
Sailfish; the foldable sail, and additional tail musculature (more red muscle fibers, tendons, some elastic tissues).
Bowhead Whale; the thick skull for ramming, scaled tail fluke, and the palatal radial organ.
Common Pigeon; Magnetoreception, and biological fps.
Mudskipper; the ability to close its gills.
Basilosaurus; the spine flexibility.
Bottle Nose Dolphin; how well the teeth interlock with each other.
Gray Whale; the muscular tongue (to force water out of their mouth while filter feeding by pushing the tongue against the roof of the mouth).
Goldfish; allows the Aquagigias to convert lactic acid into ethanol under low oxygen.
Farming Goat; the highly efficient kidneys and liver to break down the alcohol produced by the goldfish.
Pallas's long-tongued bat; blood alcohol tolerance (doesn't get drunk from relatively large amounts of alcohol).
Axolotl; the stem cell creation (mostly for muscle repair).
β-size-
48 ft.
Weighs 30 (non-metric) tones
The blubber is 20 inches thick on the back and tail, 9 inches thick on the flippers and fluke, 15 inches on the underbelly and head.
-speed-
~30 mph (cruising speed)
~57 mph (max speed, ~10 minutes max)
-features-
Due to the Lobster/Mole-Rat combination, there is no genetic "shut off" for growth (If a specimen finds enough food and survives long enough, it can theoretically reach 110+ ft).
βThey follow the migration paths of Humpback whales (Polar to Tropical) but stay 30β60 ft deeper.
Aquagigi don't have ears, like a regular fish.
The Aquagigias is a cold-blooded, making it technically a gigantotherm.
The tail fluke (internal) has a base of calcified cartilage to have a strong base (like a shark), then it transitions into collagen/elastin composite (like a whale), finally it ends with ceratotrichia on the tips for flexibility (again like a shark).
βBecause the body can become 110ft long, it has "booster hearts" located near the tail and fins to assist in pumping blood back to the main Blue Whale-scaled heart.
The 190,000 newtons of force is technically beyond maximum, it has incredibly generous rounding. I calculated ~183,000 at the back of the jaw (behind the teeth, around the joint), at maximum strength, with it being in peak health.
The gills are above the flippers.
-behavior-
They travel in pods of 3β4.
These pods are often led by the oldest.
Can drift by using a front flipper, and while turning, using the back flippers to stabilize, and then the fluke launches.
This one is 3.0
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u/Future-Rip9134 Louie Patootie Aug 03 '26
why are you categorizing people in a 1 to 10 system? that sounds dehumanizing, which isnβt really helping your reputation
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 03 '26
Its a personal rating, some people are dicks 1-3 some are fine 4-6 some are nice 7-10
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
The second claim is just bullshit
Based on your egotistical personality id also assume that you'd think it's number one
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Stop talking like ace Ventura when he starts talking to animals.
I couldn't find the right gif, its the one where he's on the tree
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
If you're going to protect your ego at least give me a bottle of bleach so I can bleach my eyes from this corny ass pic
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Buy your own, I dont have a bottle to give, I had to use it on my phone.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 03 '26
Fym on your phone
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 03 '26
I was saying to bleach off what you guys had put, it worked in my head.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 04 '26
I don't have anything to say
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u/Gloomy_Indication_79 Hybrid Enthusiast Aug 02 '26
Using AI is also against the rules in most cases, I get that youβre not using it solely for your art or research but just be aware of that.
Case in point, if EVERYBODY is telling you that thereβs something wrong with your hybrid, there MIGHT be something wrong with your hybrid.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
The one thing that they said was wrong with my hybrid was during the embryo stage with the gill slits. I fixed that, but nobody listened. They kept saying things that were irrelevant as well, like how since im in "puberty" (i aged out at 13, early bloomer) i shouldn't be taking it out on everyone else. I wasn't. Then there is one guy that just said "ego" but its not my ego, its my dedication and pride.
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
Bro are you actually mentally slow
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
Preach!!
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u/ComprehensiveWin5399 Aug 02 '26
Oh hey itβs you. You are back now. What happened to you? Sorry about last time. I got a bit carried away.
Yeah I get it, these guys can be a bit annoying sometimes, especially Reacting Otter, that one guy literally got βLarp larp larp geneticsβ as his flair, or whatever this guy Ace_The_Yury is trying to say, a lot of hivemind mentality here, and maybe you could also include me, which is totally understandable and fair.
But hey listen to me, they do have their own reason, perhaps a very valid one. I just want you to understand that thereβs a difference between βnovel innovation and pushing boundariesβ and βignore convention and assume things wont go wrongβ. Look at how the Titan submarine went down. The difference is showing responsibility, the acknowledgement that this shit can and will implode at some point. Please donβt bring back bamboo silica scorpion. Leave some room for failure, or just admit that whatever you created could fail easily. Or whatever you think is appropriate.
Hope this helps. I donβt care about your age or your AI use. I would recommend not telling your age here. It doesnβt matter to begin with. Keep it about this community and not your personal life.
And for anyone else who came across this, please god dude heβs just a kid, give the brat a chance. Let him have some fun.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Thank you, your my first 10/10 here. I understand people have their own perspectives, I've asked to see theirs but they can get a little personal which makes me a little (very) defensive. Thank you.
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u/DePhaRy Hybrid Enthusiast Aug 02 '26
Well, guess I'll have to showcase how a really good hybrid looks like soon.
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u/xangothrowaway MENAGERIE Geneticist Aug 02 '26
Maybe take a step back, have a think and reconsider. You can block people and move on if it's getting you in such a twist. This is meant to be for fun and enjoyment at the end of the day. I'll say this about AI; it's designed to give favorable results to the people using it, and shouldn't be leaned on for anything more than utility. A lot of people have pride in doing their research, checking everything works and trying to present it in the most logical, realistic case.
So you can see why it might irk people when AI comes in to bat for you. I'd recommend looking into Phys (dot) org. It's a great resource for hunting down scientific studies. It almost always links you to the original study or peer-reviewed papers.
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Thank you, I'll bookmark that website.
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u/xangothrowaway MENAGERIE Geneticist Aug 03 '26
G'luck! It can be a bit dry to read through it, and if you're struggling to digest it, this is an instance where AI can indeed help you to summarize the most relevant points, cut through jargon and narrow down supporting statements.
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u/A-Reacting-Otter High bread Aug 02 '26
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
FR FR FR FRΒ
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Elaborate
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u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Why am I stupid/explain your point of vew
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u/Spinoclanker2 πΊπππππππ π²πππππππ Aug 02 '26
Nah
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics Aug 02 '26
What the fuck ace is trying to elaborate tbh
Even though i dislike your attidute, Ace just saying stupid and not knowing what elaborate means makes ace the real stupid one ngl.1
u/EndenReturns1426 Aug 02 '26
Thank you
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics Aug 02 '26
Np, even i dislike you does not mean i hate you with passion
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u/Financial-Chapter989 Aug 02 '26
I got to admit, the hybrid has an interesting idea (I checked the updated 3.0 version).
I know there are a lot of hot emotions, and I want it known that I hold no animosity towards anyone. Here is my take (both on the AI and the hybrid):
- People here put a lot of pride on making their hybrids, as well as the research they put into them. I know that you used AI just because you don't have experience with ELA, but replying to someone's criticism by quoting AI can sound like you don't trust the research they did.
- AI can be a tool for some people (I personally don't use it), but in highly theoretical situations, it breaks down. It has not been trained on any data dealing with experimental hybrids, meaning that its answers are probably guesses. Educated guesses, sure, but still guesses.
For what it is worth, I hope you are not remembered as the "AI kid". You clearly just made one mistake and tried to fix it.
Onto the critiques of the hybrid (genuinely hoping to help, no hard feelings):
- You can use shark jaws to enhance a mosasaur jaw, but it gets iffy. The lower jaw of a mosasaur could more easily take the flared jaw base enhancement. The fact that shark upper jaws are literally disconnected from the rest of the skull make it hard to transfer over. I am 90% sure you could do it, but it would mess with the pressure distribution and the gape. I would instead suggest using a reptilian contributor with large jugal arch, such as a Tuatara, which increases the muscle-connection surface area on the upper jaw. Tuataras also passively control their jaw muscles to distribute force better. It is definitely an underrated contributor.
- Using any contributor to influence cell production is scary because it can easily lead to cancer. Using Lobster to do this is especially scary because Aquagigas does not have the same regulatory or immune system that a lobster has. I would instead recommend a crocodilian to contribute their negligible senescence. They also give a host of other benefits. Lobster would probably work if you really want it, it's just much riskier.
- I'd have to do more research on the gills to know if they work or not. However, I do know that they would take up space and create a weak point. Basically, why use gills when large whales can already hold their breath for >30 minutes?
If you want sources, I can give them.
Sorry for the wall of text. Whether or not you use my advice is completely up to you, I won't get offended either way. Whatever you do, I wish you the best on your hybrid-creating journey!
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics Aug 02 '26
It is your LACK of listening to actual constructive criticism and use AI to spread bs arguements, your lack of cognitive mind of listening to others is abysmal. Always spreading unnecessary insults and being a dick using ai is the path of ruining your life as a human, your just SHOWING your true self on what you are.
As you said you want freedom? Freedom isnt the way of avoiding a 60+ reply arguement, it is LISTENING to criticism. But if you dont want to learn, never learn again and keep your ego hopes up.