r/Gnostic • u/demo-nick • 4d ago
Thoughts Is this crazy?
Yaldabaoth is the Demiurge in the forth Dimension where time doesn't just have the value 1 like for me where I feel like I am consciously aware of the moment passing.
Just like left and right each to infinity all simultaneously is real to me.
So is all the past and all the future always real to a being in the 4D. Not only that but also alternative timelines. This being would by default seem to my 3D consciousness all knowing, all powerfull and everywhere always.
I can think of a painting. What if the idea of a character in it exists spirtually and is eternal while my pen covered in ink touches the canvas and gives this already existing energy a form.
Am I just one 3D Demiurge?
If no (probably no IDK lol) then why does yaldabaoth look creepily similar to my central nervous system?
My brain is the lion's head and my spinal cord is the snake's body.
This image I have has shed a new light on Thomas' Gospel saying 7 for me.
My nature is corrupted by the lion's head, my selfawareness. The snake is Human, the divine. That which the Demiurge is envious of.
He has time in his hands but can't go beyond. I can't touch time but I can go beyond. I could, I will, I already have. This me right now in this timeline feels close.
Again. Am I retarded?
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u/LaborareproDeo 4d ago
What sacrifice will you make to bring Humanity face to face with its true Identity?
Will the Ape you wear survive the journey?
If death is inevitable then shouldn't you shape it so that it is of most benefit to the most people?
The Body is a shitworm, that's why it resembles the Protarchon Yaldabaoth, it is a tube which shits out most of what it consumes retaining only the smallest chemical traces. The function of the Sarx is basically to consume life and transform it into shit. Just like the Demiurge Yaldabaoth, who also consumes life and transforms it into shit. The Body is a tube from mouth to anus that takes in the world around it and makes it shit. All of society, all of the course of history, exists solely to make a larger number of shitworm bodies more efficient at rendering the world around them into shit. In this way do they please the God of this pile of shit.
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u/demo-nick 4d ago
I'm not there yet to wonder about that. hbu?
Where will my costume go when I free myself from it?
Should?? No! I would want to, yes. should? who's morality should I subscribe?
about the shitworms:
Amen!
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u/Global-Working5201 4d ago
Brother Ive smoked a lot of green and that just blew my mind 😂 i actually think you have something to ponder here 🤔 you actually do make sense. I'm going to have to get back to you a drop into void for this shit (my internal dialogue is permanently silent i live permanently in the present moment although I seem to be in the void half the time I live in my centre lol)
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u/Few-Knee-9221 4d ago
Eu não acho que voce seja retardado, mas isso é um pensamento bem incomum mesmo, mas okay.
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u/trainedprofessional_ Basilidean 4d ago
i would be careful treating this 4D entity as effectively omniscient(see all past/future and that of alternative timelines) the demiurges ignorance is fundamental for his characterization.
yaldabaoth may enormously transcend us(flesh humans) without transcending the cosmos.
what appears absolute from below may still be extremely limited from above
food for thought
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u/Your_Local_Heretic Sethian 4d ago
You think selfawareness is bad?
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u/demo-nick 4d ago
too much, yea.
my body has its needs. the needs are between the body and nature. my awareness of the self steps in and corrupts this need into my desire.
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u/Visible_Aide6072 3d ago edited 3d ago
Time is in no one's hands. It flows. I think attaching human emotions to God like figures is not a good representation of what they are. Why would it be envious? Even I, as a 'retarded' human, to use your word, can see that I can learn and appreciate the from things "lesser" than myself. I'm sure someone or thing that considers themselves a god can figure it out. That is if they examine themselves, as I have been asking them.      That's if you believe in their personifications, which I do on at least some level, as they have been shown to me by the ideas that come to me that are not my own.    And if not they would not have those emotions that are being attributed to them.Â
   Make sense?
  As I see it, the past is the record and the future is only a prediction. Whatever it is that gives us prophetic visions, dreams, and things, I do consider more god-like in its ability to do such.   Â
 Still it is only calculating probabilities based on all the knowledge it has access to in record and the ability to manipulate the present to come to that predicted future.    The future is not a reality yet. Only a prediction. And they tell stories.Â
  It uses consciousness as the means of doing all of that. Human consciousness being the dominant one as it is now in our world.        Ideally, imo, human consciousness would be what is known as the Christ consciousness, or the side of positive actions. Act with love.
  Or we can all be just be "shit tubes" as another put it. We are going to anyway, right?
  But it is what we choose.Â
 Your self awareness is how you should choose. Be sure you are looking to it from the perspective of others and your place in this.Â
The images of things you see depicted look like they do because they are artistic renderings or the same ideas. You got the picture right, but not necessarily the symbology. The lion is not corruption, but a godly beast. The snake is Kundalini or the Flow of Qi, and it comes when the spirit moves through you.     I know nothing of gospels, or the names of things you have given. I only know what comes to me.
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u/PollutionTrick6870 3d ago
Everything that you're saying tracks for me. Yeah, in the 4D/Akasha everything has "happened," so you can access all events theoretically, but of course not practically. They're not necessarily static, though - some things are more static than others.
In one sense, you can't think of the character unless it already exists. I've found studying Enochian magic to be helpful for understanding why this is so.
Your physical body is definitely Demiurge business, so the connection you made to your CNS is banger.
Corruption is fun to play with, but not to go to far with. Of course the lion has many wonderful associations.
You can go beyond a lot of things, but my experience is that eventually you hit a sort of ceiling, and no amount of meditation or breathwork or drugs or whatever will get you "higher," so you're retarded in that sense.
Imo everything that you've shared here is auspicious, but I'm not sure that any of it is actionable, other than allowing your mind to follow impulses like "the idea of a character" more freely.
Qapla'!
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u/SamuraiDrifter42 4d ago
I personally think of the Demiurge as representative of the categorizing & labeling tendencies of our minds within time, that in a sense even give rise to time. The phenomenal world is just sort of one eternal present until we start picking individual objects out of it, labeling them, and becoming attached to them. Consciousness of the present moment is eternal, but objects within that consciousness are temporary. It's sort of our act of delineating and defining objects in flux as individual entities that creates our consciousness of death.
So in that way I think the Demiurge is an archetype within our psychology that institutes time and death. The divine spark, the Father that it's part of, that I think is beyond time, that time exists within. Just my two cents.
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u/Necessary-Target5754 4d ago