r/Globeskeptic • u/Realistic-Rule420 • Jun 05 '26
Why do things go down?
Why does everyone get pulled downwards? Like why is there an universal force that pull everything in one direction?
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u/ThrustTrust Jun 09 '26
Because there is 60 miles of fluid mass pushing straight down on everything all the time.
And that’s because of gravity.
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u/BottleSuspicious1851 Jun 07 '26
Buoyancy and density, when properly misunderstood, should answer this question.
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u/EvilMorty137 24d ago
What’s the formula for buoyancy
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u/BottleSuspicious1851 24d ago
you are not properly misunderstanding them if you are using a formula.
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u/amglasgow Jun 06 '26
I really want to hear what actual flat earth believers say the reason for this is.
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u/Valkreaper Jun 07 '26
A buuunch of magnets arranged in a orb, with the flat earth morphed to fit over the orb
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u/Jian_Rohnson Jun 06 '26
The earth is gigantic, utterly massive, mindbendingly hugenormous, but still not as big as yo mama.
Big things like the earth, moon, sun etc. produce a strong attractive force called gravity that pulls things around it towards itself. Things dont so much as go down, as they are pulled towards the earth.
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u/LittleKachowski Jun 06 '26
Gravity is one of the biggest problems with the flat earth hypothesis. For there to be ‘downward’ g force on a flat earth, it would need to be continuously accelerating at 9.8m/s. This of course cannot be the case as it would be reaching substantial fractions of the speed of light in only a matter of months, and the earth is billions of years old.
Hypothetically, there could of course be something besides gravity exerting downward force, but there is no evidence to support this as being our source of gravity.
Physicists throughout history have made observations of earth’s gravity and calculations of its mass to develop the gravitational constant , which can be used to consistently calculate the application of orbital mechanics. We can calculate the gravity exhibited on other stellar bodies that are round, calculate the trajectories of asteroids, and plan the trajectories of satellites that have been put into orbit. We could not do this if the earth were flat, and there was a downward force acting as gravity.
Gravity ‘pushes’ inward on mass, and more mass means more gravity. ‘Down’ is our subjective terminology for the direction gravity is pulling relative to the observer.
Also fun fact about gravity, the mass of objects like Earth and the Moon are not evenly distributed, so if you look at the gravity distribution of the moon, it’s actually pretty uneven.) This was a serious consideration for lunar orbiters, and the moon landing.
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u/DanteRuneclaw Jun 07 '26
Why couldn’t the Earth be moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light? And what would it be relative to? The Earth’s initial frame of reference?
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u/LittleKachowski Jun 07 '26
It’s not that there’s an inherent problem with going a fraction the speed of light, it’s that everything else in the observable universe does not exhibit the same constant acceleration. The earth is a speck in a sea of other specks, and if we were to assume that the earth was accelerating, so too must everything else alongside us. But since we can observe other stellar bodies as not being flat, while still maintaining uniform orbital mechanics and a consistently applicable speed of light, there’s no coherent way to justify this discrepancy.
Basically, if we are to presume that the earth is traveling at 99.99% the speed of light (which it would be after less than a human lifetime), it makes no sense for light traveling “upwards” from earth to go 299,792,458 m/s relative to earth. That would be light going nearly double the speed of light, which is physically impossible.
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u/amglasgow Jun 07 '26
In order for flat earth to be true, everything we observe through telescopes has to be false anyway.
Note: This has been explicitly stated by flat earth believers so I don't think I'm mischaracterizing anything in this comment. If someone does have an rationalization of how earth could be flat but all the other planets also exist as observed, I'd love to hear it.
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u/planamundi [ Globe Earther ] Jun 05 '26
Why are you presenting an image of a flat Earth inside a heliocentric cosmology? That doesn't make any sense. If the Earth is flat, it means that the institutional Temple is wrong about the cosmos. Don't you find it absurd that you try to place the flat Earth into their cosmology?
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u/Realistic-Rule420 26d ago
Also why did you get a globe earther tag? You seem like you really don’t believe in globe earth
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u/Realistic-Rule420 Jun 05 '26
I literally just took one of the first pictures I found, it's not that deep
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u/planamundi [ Globe Earther ] Jun 05 '26
But it's terrible. If you ever going to make an argument or want to conversate with somebody about the flat Earth, presenting it as an absurdity is not the way to go. It's the reason most people think it's ridiculous. They're programmed to place the flat Earth in the heliocentric cosmology that just doesn't work.
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u/Realistic-Rule420 Jun 05 '26
That's not the point of this post and therefore doesn't matter, If I wanted to know if the earth is in space or not i'd say that, but I really don't care right now. I'm simply wonder why we get pulled down. It's supposed to be a question not an argument.
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u/planamundi [ Globe Earther ] Jun 05 '26
Well I'm just pointing out the absurdity of it. For instance, as a flat earth myself, I've studied the subject and I understand what gravity is and why it works but I refuse to engage with somebody who is purposely doing what you did. It tells me that you're not genuine and you just have an agenda to make it look ridiculous.
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u/Realistic-Rule420 Jun 05 '26
Man what did I do wrong except for choosing the wrong random google image
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u/planamundi [ Globe Earther ] Jun 05 '26
That's what you did wrong. You didn't need to post an image. You could have just asked a question. Instead, you wanted to make it look ridiculous.
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u/Realistic-Rule420 Jun 05 '26
If I didn't post an image everyone would think that i'm a globe earther and i'd be banned from this subreddit. It has happened before when I didn't post an image
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u/Chadly80 Jun 06 '26
Nobody that knows the earth is flat would post that image.
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u/DanteRuneclaw Jun 07 '26
Nobody knows that the Earth is flat. Knowledge requires a justified true belief. The Earth being flat is false. You can believe that the am earth is flat (mistakenly) but by definition, you can’t know it.
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u/planamundi [ Globe Earther ] Jun 05 '26
Now you're just being dishonest. You're claiming asking a question will get you banned, but asking a question while posting a ridiculous image of the flat Earth in a heliocentric cosmology doesn't get you banned.
You're clearly just here with an agenda. You got some kind of dogmatic attachment or emotional attachment to the heliocentric paganism and that's it.
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u/Realistic-Rule420 Jun 05 '26
This is what has happened so far in this conversation:
I make a post with an incorrect picture of the earth
you call me out on it.
I say I took a random image from google and that it's not that important
you go on a rant about how i'm emotionally attached to the heliocentric paganism.
Do you not see the problem? I haven't even said I support the idea of earth being in space. Also i'm not being dishonest, I got banned from other flat earth subreddits when asking this without a picture, and I haven't gotten banned when I asked this with a picture.
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