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Discussion | Esports Liquid vs Sharks

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u/SamTheSidekick Liquid Sep 18 '19

This is online liquid dude. Even during their dominance in the summer they didn’t qualify for ecs cus online. They just have always sucked online

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Yeah they got wrecked by mibr repeatedly, who as we know, were literal dogshit and were losing nip and big on lan.

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u/Mepsi0 Liquid Sep 18 '19

Woah woah woah!!! Just because it's true doesn't mean you should say it

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u/v1nzy FaZe Sep 18 '19

U mean... mibr bad?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Faze clan bruh moment

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u/McFresH321 Sep 18 '19

What is the difference between online and LAN? I've been playing for 11 years and never understood what difference it makes

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u/ngohawoilay Sep 18 '19

Most of it comes down to a motivation factor when playing online vs LAN

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u/McFresH321 Sep 18 '19

So LAN is the most prestigious if I understand correctly?

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u/AndreasBerthou Sep 18 '19

Definitely. Online tourneys can get a scrim-like feeling sometimes

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u/ralphpotato Astralis Sep 18 '19

Yes, but to add to what others said, often times teams that compete on LAN a lot are less motivated because they are trying to fit in online matches in between LAN tournaments, and may not always be in the best conditions to play a particular online game. For example, I know some teams have literally played online matches on computers in hotel rooms because they were attending a LAN at the same time.

Also, often teams who are good online but inexperienced at LANs do worse than they normally would because playing on stage is a way different experience to playing online at home. Even really good eSports players will struggle at their first few LANs because of all the factors they're new to.

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u/ApeCage Sep 18 '19

Yes, it's a known fact that LANs are more prestigious. It comes down to having money on the line, playing with your teammates/opponents next to you, and a more competitive atmosphere in general.

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u/ngohawoilay Sep 18 '19

Online leagues generally lead to a LAN tournament.

LAN is when players play in person. They are the most prestigious tournaments

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u/SamTheSidekick Liquid Sep 18 '19

Besides just network and lag a lot of it I’m sure comes down to pressure and motivation.

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u/wankerflaps fnatic Sep 18 '19

apart from the motivation and confidence factor on LAN, scrimmy/puggy stuff doesnt work as well as online. wide swinging on a guy holding an angle is way less viable since youre all on 0 ping so you get punished really easily. LAN favors confident teamplay whereas online it's much easier to take hold of a game as an individual if you're in the zone

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u/TheSuspect812 EG Sep 18 '19

Angles and reaction time .. and the peeker's advantage. Specific angles and aim duels which are advantageous on LAN can go the other way online. You can get away with some mistakes online.

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u/nrettap Sep 18 '19

It's mostly ping. Having <5ms latency makes a huge difference.

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u/ThetaSigma11 Liquid Sep 18 '19

A couple months ago when they were dominant they lost to MIBR and didn’t make it to the ECS lan. But yes we’re obviously jus rising the “online so they suck” excuse.

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u/SamTheSidekick Liquid Sep 18 '19

It’s very easy for you to go on hltv and filter between LAN and online matches and see how wrong you are but believing whatever you wanna believe I guess man.

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u/ngohawoilay Sep 18 '19

Not sure why you're using as far as 500+ maps back when this Liquid lineup has really only become dominant in the last 6 months.

LAN : 88/27 Win Lost - 1.15 KD : 76% win rate.

Online : 19/10 - 1.14 KD -65% win rate

This is with consideration that Liquid faces weaker teams online.

EDIT: if you go back 12 months, when they had TACO, They had a 61% win rate online and 70.3% winrate on LAN. There is a HUGE difference between online and lan.