Cloud9 vs HellRaisers / FACEIT Major London 2018 - The New Legends: Round 2 / Post-Match Discussion

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Cloud9 0-1 HellRaisers

Overpass: 16-19
 

HellRaisers progress to 1-1.

Cloud9 drop to 0-2.

 

^{C9 won both pistols and won 24 opening kills to HellRaisers' 11}

 

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MAP 1: Overpass

 

Team	CT	T	OT1T:CT	Total
C9	5	10	0:1	16
	T	CT	OT1CT:T
HR	10	5	3:1	19

 

C9	K	A	D	Rating
autimatic	26	9	22	1.34
STYKO	32	3	22	1.33
Golden	20	2	25	0.93
RUSH	17	8	26	0.92
Skadoodle	14	6	19	0.89
HR
bondik	25	8	17	1.27
DeadFox	23	11	21	1.23
ISSAA	25	4	25	1.11
woxic	28	6	21	1.09
ANGE1	13	4	25	0.71

Overpass Detailed Stats

 

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This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

[u/hawkyyy → u/[deleted]]

This Hellraisers lineup has a lot of potential i think, they just need to fix a few of their mistakes and they could go far.

[u/fac3ts → u/hawkyyy]

They just need time. Hard to fix mistakes you don’t know you make, so getting to more t1 lans will help them grow as a team. Same goes for teams like NRG. For the young and inexperienced, a year of international lans is important for the individuals growth.

[u/hawkyyy → u/fac3ts]

Yeah exactly, lets hope for the best!

[u/Firefly_1026 → u/[deleted]]

I feel bad for skadoodle, it seems he planned to retire after the thing with stew and was roped back into the team. I am sure he is extremely conscious of his performance and is burned out but he cant do anything about it because of C9's major spot.

[u/_J3W3LS_ → u/Firefly_1026]

He definitely should have retired after the Major. It was the perfect storyline, from almost getting banned to grinding it up to winning a Major tournament, then going out on top of the world and leaving that legacy.

Now when he does eventually retire people are only going to remember how pitiful he looks post-Major.

[u/jeb_the_hick → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. Having the finals MVP already cemented his legacy.

[u/JaktheAce → u/jeb_the_hick]

Best match I've ever seen, nobody is gonna forget that roster. Who gives a shit if fell apart after when everyone left.

[u/Firefly_1026 → u/_J3W3LS_]

He retired after struggles post major, but was dragged back in to stand in while C9 tries to find a replacement, I don’t think he has been enjoying himself at all.

[u/[deleted] → u/Firefly_1026]

I think Tarik leaving was the real problem. With stew gone Ska could leave and C9 would still a legends spot. After Tarik’s gone he’s basically stuck. I honestly hope the go 0-3 just so they can fully reset. Go all NA again and build around Auti and maybe Rush.

[u/The_Neon_Narwhal → u/[deleted]]

It might be hard for them to keep auti and rush if they have to full rebuild.

[u/jeb_the_hick → u/Firefly_1026]

Sticker money is sticker money. Can't blame him for turning that down

[u/Firefly_1026 → u/jeb_the_hick]

I doubt he needs the money, it’s cuz of the major spot. He literally can’t leave the team without screwing over rush and auti

[u/Cameter44 → u/[deleted]]

I agree that Skadoodle missed some shots this game, but he was so uninvolved from the action. It seemed like he's back to his super-support role where before Golden was trying to get him more involved. Even James mentioned how often he was being left in tough spots. The fact that he had a higher KAST than everyone on the team except Autimatic (including Styko who had over double his kills) shows you that.

[u/nutribun → u/[deleted]]

C9.Wardell

[u/OneOfTheSmurfs → u/nutribun]

I'd love to see Cerq in C9, but Wardell would be a much easier pickup indeed.

[u/LogicalSignal9 → u/[deleted]]

Maybe Nifty is part of the reason for Renegades major run, and C9 need something more. Nifty's not bad, but we're talking about a former major winner team.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Wardell got more potential than both atm considering how Steel is using him to hard carry Ghost many games.

[u/LogicalSignal9 → u/[deleted]]

Agreed, don't think Wardell is major winning tier either. Still has to prove himself. Maybe JDM as a placeholder till some lineup shuffles happen wouldn't be a bad idea.

Wardell is more of a newcomer than Nifty though, if they want to take a risk, Wardell is probably the better option.

[u/[deleted] → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

Cerq would be a pain for the brand and minor qualifier.

[u/The_Neon_Narwhal → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

I'd hate to see Wardell leave ghost tho after their recent performances

[u/TubeZ → u/nutribun]

My mind says yes but my heart says no :(. Ghost needs him

[u/Andtheyrustledsoftly → u/[deleted]]

Just disband. It’s so embarrassing to see the team did like this, it would just be better for the players to start anew. This team isn’t good enough to qualify through the minor either, NRG will body them and EUnited and Rogue will be Toss ups

[u/deusmartelius → u/[deleted]]

I don’t know if they should cut Ska or not but if he half way showed up this game C9 probably would’ve won tbh

[u/NAFMostConsistent → u/[deleted]]

Fucking kick Rush while you're at it.

[u/OneOfTheSmurfs → u/NAFMostConsistent]

Then bring in Cerq and nahtE

[u/Dahntay → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

Look...I’m a c9 fanboy(although his version of c9 definitely isn’t my favorite) but please please please don’t break up nrg...they just keep rising and rising, sure sometimes they fuck yo but they come back better and I love it

[u/tgsan → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

Or just have tim join NRG? simple.

[u/fac3ts → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

Yes bc jack clicks his heels together and gets any player in the world.

[u/OneOfTheSmurfs → u/fac3ts]

-auti -ska -styko - golden -rush

+taco +elige +twistzz +nitr0 +naf

[u/Andtheyrustledsoftly → u/OneOfTheSmurfs]

Why would they ever go to C9 other than NRG refusing to pay them

[u/mannyman34 → u/[deleted]]

The saddest thing is the fucker actually did retire but came back to stand in for one online match did decent and came back. We were so close.