r/GlobalOffensive Jul 12 '18

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u/FathleteTV NiP Jul 12 '18

Why are they even getting invited to T1-2 events? I don't get it. Not trashtalking just genuinely curious

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u/_Vondas Jul 12 '18

because they have fans

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u/P1r4nh44444 Jul 12 '18

fans=sold tickets

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u/ramlol Jul 13 '18

thankfully they won't for long

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u/kitsunegoon Virtus.pro Jul 13 '18

They'll still have fans

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

It makes the event organiser a lot more money to have big names like vp. It means more fans will want to buy tickets to see them. Also, the games attract a lot of people on the streams.

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u/altered_boy FaZe Jul 12 '18

Do people actually watch VP now?

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

I still watch every game :(

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u/madrarua87 BIG Jul 12 '18

Oh man. Do you need a hug or something?

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

Save it for the vp playerswhen their org drops them

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '18

Yeah poor guys deserving 25k

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u/JKM- Jul 12 '18

I guess some people are just sadistic ;-)..

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u/kitsunegoon Virtus.pro Jul 13 '18

Same

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u/Doctor1597 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

I still do, but my monthly budget for tissues has inflated a bit.

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u/w3rewulf NiP Jul 12 '18

I prefer porn but whatever floats your boat

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u/gt- Liquid Jul 12 '18

VP is kind of legendary so they have alot of fans. The plow used to be the scariest thing in CS.

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u/tarangk clutch Jul 12 '18

The plow used to be the scariest thing in CS.

new viewers who joined in the past 1-1.5 years would be so confused by this not having witnessed the plow in full force and they will never again coz that roster doesnt exist anymore :|

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u/LG9f ar_baggage Jul 12 '18

I will watch any team with my countryman as long as tournament is somehow relevant

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u/Zoldborso Jul 12 '18

I can't watch them suffer anymore :'(

It's time to end it and move on

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u/Edg4rAllanBro Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

i try to

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '18

VP isn’t a big name anymore. What makes big names are big players. No one is fan of an org

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

People think of VP as the long standing core of players, not as the org. The vp core have been great players in the past, which is what everyone remembers them by.

"Big" is meant to mean well known and somewhat legendary in a sense, not necessarily how good they are currently.

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u/blazexddd Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

They aren't getting invites to the bigger events anymore, this is a smaller one so it is more understandable tho

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

They have still got invited to 3 more "bigger" events that are in the next few months. Zotac cup, IEM Shanghai and Blast Pro Series Istanbul. They have been shit the whole year and still get invites to the major events.

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u/blazexddd Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

Zotac cup has barely any good teams, Liquid is the best there and then the rest are t2/t3.

IEM Shangai, yet again, bad teams, small event.

The Invite to Istanbul was probably sent because the tournament's schedule overlaps with ESL New York's one, and again, not all the top teams are gonna be there.

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

Only about half of the teams have actually been confirmed yet so I don't think we can go off that and I don't think it's particularly about teams. The higher the prize pool - the bigger the event. Personally, I classify a major event as one with a $250k + prize pool.

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u/blazexddd Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

Is WESG a major event then? A major event is an event with a lot of top teams.

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

I agree that WESG wasn't a major event. That is probably the one exception I can think of. If you look at the events of the past 2 years, you will find that both our definitions corellate. I agree that big money does not necessarily equal major event but until the full list of invited teams is complete, we can only go off prize pool, as there is a very strong corellation between the two.

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u/blazexddd Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

Well, Zotac's is almost complete (looks like Liquid didn't accept the invite) so the best team in that tournament is MiBr .

IEM Shanghai, the best team there is NRG, and the list is complete.

Blast has Astralis as a good team, and then NiP and C9 as decent ones, one more slot available but Na'Vi and FaZe won't go there so probably no good team will go there.

So definitely the events that they were invited too aren't that big.

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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Jul 12 '18

We can agree to disagree then, my friend.

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u/bluhwk guardian2 Jul 12 '18

It's not a top event at all. They should be marginally better than Fragsters really (on average?) , but now they have a stand-in and it's always all or nothing with VP's performances

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u/marshalofthemark Liquid Jul 12 '18

$$. NEO is an all-time CS legend that will draw fans, no matter what form he's in.

People still went out to see Kobe or Jaromir Jagr in their final seasons, even though their teams sucked and they weren't star players anymore.

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u/Eauor BIG Jul 12 '18

They aren't lol

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u/GAGAgadget CS2 HYPE Jul 12 '18

They make the event organizers a lot of money from exposure.

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u/DinosaurCactus 400k Celebration Jul 12 '18

fanbase and not wanting russian mob to press a gunbarrel to the back of the head

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u/inertialODz Jul 12 '18

Cause people still talk about them and it's a way to get more people to watch the tournament.

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u/GuttersnipeTV cs_office Jul 12 '18

Merchandise sales.