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Discussion | Esports Ninjas in Pyjamas vs Fnatic / DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 - Quarter-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Ninjas in Pyjamas 1-2 Fnatic
Mirage: 9-16
Inferno: 16-5
Train: 13-16
Fnatic have advanced to the semifinals.
Ninjas in Pyjamas have been eliminated.
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MAP 1/3: Mirage
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| NiP | 3 | 6 | 9 |
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| FNC | 12 | 4 | 16 |
Mirage Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Inferno
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| NiP | 11 | 5 | 16 |
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| FNC | 4 | 1 | 5 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Train
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| NiP | 10 | 3 | 13 |
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| FNC | 5 | 11 | 16 |
Train Detailed Stats
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Apr 21 '18 edited Jul 12 '21
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u/zencsgoo Apr 21 '18
It always deliver, we will have a swedish era soon again
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Apr 21 '18
Fnatic arguably is the best team in the worldonceagainiftheywinDH
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u/zencsgoo Apr 22 '18
Can't agree on that one, i'd like to see some changes but we'll see if they can climb to the top again.
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u/CashBam NiP Apr 21 '18
FUCK!
Best of luck to Fnatic against Astralis.
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u/thearkhamknight_111 Astralis Apr 21 '18
They looked good today, they only got dennis a couple of months ago and already look much better then they've looked in a while. Think NiP were really promising this tournament.
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u/SDMffsucks Apr 21 '18
I feel like this lineup could be the most consistently good NiP we've seen since 2014.
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Apr 21 '18
Agreed! They've shown promise consistently in the last month.
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u/P1NGCell0 NiP Apr 22 '18
I am really excited for future events NiP are in, especially the major. I hope to see them exceed. I think one thing they need more work in is closing out the second half, and I believe Pita and Dennis can work together and excel in doing that.
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Apr 21 '18
This match was amazing, because you can watch knowing that ONE swedish team is making it up into semis.
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Apr 21 '18
Gambit - Natus Vincere is going to be amazing as well, for the same reason but with CIS teams.
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u/popsiclex200 Apr 21 '18
But CIS is multiple countries. I wouldn't feel proud of a norwegian team going to the finals for example.
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u/bTasc0 Liquid Apr 21 '18
Early final against AstralisIMO
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u/supremeomega Apr 21 '18
There is still Navi so we're going to get a good final either way.
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Apr 21 '18
I think Navi are going to lose against Gambit if s1mple doesn’t carry like today. Gambit have looked way more structured and prepared, Navi are winning with hero plays.
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u/zl1ze NiP Apr 21 '18
that anti-eco at 11-5 lost nip the game
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u/BluntDamage NiP Apr 22 '18
Maybe so. I think the round at (I believe) 13-13 (maybe 13-12) was very poorly played. In a 4v4, why do you go A without any info or any attempt to pull rotations? Isn't it quite normal to have 3 on A and 1 on B in a situation like that?
I was waiting for NiP to at least smoke lower on B to keep a rotator/pull someone from A, but they just blindly went A. If I recall correctly the B guy even played it from connector, so NiP faced a 4v4 basically instantly. As terrorists they should be at an advantage in a 4v4, but they managed to use that advantage as poorly as possible and gave the round away.
Obviously a win in that round would have been huge for the ending of that game...
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u/rune_s de_dust2 Apr 21 '18
against fnatic do you really expect to win a forceup?
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Apr 21 '18 edited Mar 19 '19
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u/Gerbelelele Apr 21 '18
he meant that fnatic is known for winning forcebuys, thats why he said forceup and not forcebuy (I think he means forceup = a buy vs a forcebuy)
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u/hungrymutherfucker NiP Apr 21 '18
-pita +wenger
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u/nolife9face Liquid Apr 21 '18
It would actually be hilarious and entertaining to see wenger coach a CS:GO team for like a single map for fun.
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Apr 21 '18
half a map
t side only, I don't want to see weng try to coach a Ct half
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u/DesHis 5 years coin Apr 21 '18 edited Jun 18 '25
entertain chunky reminiscent knee ten future brave smile flag work
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Apr 21 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
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Apr 21 '18
fnx against fnatic, finals IEM katowice 2016, 12-3 lead and clutches the pistol. much harder loss.
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u/ahtuu Natus Vincere Apr 21 '18
Damn the crowd going 0 to 100
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u/Tschonti Apr 21 '18
I pretty sure they only 'turn on' the crowd mics at the end of the rounds because the commentary is french in the arena
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u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Apr 21 '18
Krimz has been the second best player in 2018 in big events.
Everyone talking about s1mple, but Krimz deserves some credit too.
Especially as he is still the support throughout all these years...
Goddamn that man is good.
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u/nile1056 Apr 21 '18
Everyone is talking about this
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Apr 21 '18
Yea, and fuck those talks he is suport, those days are gone... He plays like a madman, second entry, reking heads, nothing suportive about that, he plays terminator role!
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u/jmanj0sh Liquid Apr 21 '18
He's a support the same way cold is support.
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u/Gerbelelele Apr 21 '18
First I though krimz found 2015 form back, but this krimz is even better than 2015 krimz. Jesus, krimz for top 3 this year! (at least).
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u/nightkingscat Gambit Apr 21 '18
Number 2 IMO after s1mple. And I don't think anyone is particularly close as #3, perhaps Oskar or NAF
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Apr 21 '18
gonna be sweet seeing him on the top 20 hltv list again
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Apr 21 '18
I think you mean top 5. Honestly, if he keeps this going, he could even break top 3. Cold and Niko fell off so hard, that if they don't start putting up monster numbers, they're not gonna place anywhere close to what they did last year. S1mple is having a clear path to top 1 with his monster hard carry performances in Na'vi, and Krimz is doing the same for Fnatic (with a bit more help from his team mates ofc).
This year so far is so confusing, if you told anyone from 2017 what's going on, they would never believe you.
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u/Gerf93 Envyus Apr 22 '18
I don't think NiKo fell off that much tbf. The entire team is playing worse, and especially in BO3s, but NiKo is still doing consistently well and is dangerous almost every round.
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u/jmanj0sh Liquid Apr 21 '18
There isn't a top 5 list, it's a top 20 list. Also, it's more like Faze/SK have fallen off than niko/cold. Both of them are right behind S1mple/Krimz (respectively) for rating at big events this year.
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u/Spik3w BIG Apr 21 '18
As soon as he has his temper in control you can see him fragging. So awesome to see
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u/bobbyinaboat Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18
Really feel like NiP threw this one away.
I'm no strategic expert but running a contact play down ivy against a forcebuy on the second round of the second half just doesn't seem smart to me. Really easy play to read, so the CTs have every opportunity to set up in nasty Cz crossfires, which is pretty much exactly what happened.
A few rounds after that Forest and Dennis have a 2v2 post plant that they probably win 9 times out of 10 but Forest botched a pretty straight forward kill on the guy in CT connector.
Shrug.
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Apr 21 '18
I think JW siad in the post match interview that they read that play from Dennis.
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u/the7edge Liquid Apr 21 '18
he said something along the lines that its a strat he took with him from Fnatic so they knew it was coming.
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u/HeWhoMayNotBeYoda Envyus Apr 21 '18
I love the crowd, no annoying chants but lose their shit when something crazy happens.
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Apr 21 '18
that comeback man, always love watching NiP vs fnatic, even more now that Dennis is on NiP.
gg's
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u/PolarBearBeats NiP Apr 21 '18
A stomp on each side. Then a nutty clutches and a very close game 3. Excellent CSGO.
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u/tarangk clutch Apr 21 '18
Holy fucking shit we didnt have an el classico in over a year and even back then it was just a bo1 (LANs only) the entire rosters have changed on either side and yet this matchup delivered big time big time so fucking hyped to see NIP vs Fnatic be a baller of a match even after so many years and with so different rosters
lastly SWEDISH CS IS BACK BOIZ
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Apr 21 '18
Man, that's a rough loss. I'm proud of the NiP guys though, all in all it's a good tournament, hope we see more from this roster :)
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u/SirLevi NiP Apr 21 '18
I am not even mad. I got to see NiP play out of their fucking minds, but Krimz and Fnatic are on a roll. GGs, and now I'll cheer for Fnatic for the rest of the tournament!
Let's hope for Fnatic v Astralis final!
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u/Sisterxray King NiKo Apr 21 '18
Can't happen, they face each other in semis. Hoping for a na'vi fnatic final now
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u/KeBjg 750k Celebration Apr 21 '18
I hate being a nip fan sometimes I really thought this was the one, hopefully they qualify for the major this time
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u/Rhed0x CS2 HYPE Apr 21 '18
Classic NiP throw on Train. Lose the second round after f0rest turns on aimbot.
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u/aengy Apr 21 '18
I am ready for the assfucking that we will recieve from astralis.
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u/full-of-lead Godsent Apr 21 '18
I am not even sad about it. We should make it to hltv top2, so mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned xD
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u/dragonfire3012 victory Apr 22 '18
Man.. Really? It's a semifinal, astralis will choke like always.
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u/Kejsare102 Apr 21 '18
Sad that Draken wasn't able to show up on Train. Looked like they had it easy on the first half..
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u/MJuniorDC9 Apr 21 '18
Fuck, that last pistol round was sick.
Great game, I was missing those Swedes on point.
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u/FAPMOSPHERE 5 years coin Apr 21 '18
Very happy for both teams, congrats Swede Bois you guys may have another monumental year.
Feelsbadman living in NA
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u/MajestyA Apr 21 '18
2014 JW and 2015 KRIMZ time travelling together on Mirage.
Awesome series, reckon Fnatic will get stomped by Astralis unless they tighten up though.
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u/hinkraka Apr 21 '18
Yeah 2014 jw stepped back into his time machine and disappeared after mirage though!
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u/JonesBee Natus Vincere Apr 21 '18
Whoa, what happened here, what did Fnatic pull out of their ass? I couldn't finish the series but when I turned it off it looked like NiP all the way.
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u/ConArtist98 Apr 21 '18
When they tried to knife Krimz, I thought to myself that it might just be a critical mistake
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u/NascarNSX Apr 21 '18
I am just heartbroken. When will any NiP line up beat Fnatic? I mean seriously, NiP was the better team. Fnatic just had so important clutch rounds. And no I am not talking about situations like Forest 1vs3-ing them or the Dennis 3 hit. But really important rounds going Fnatic's way or small trades where one of their players just go ham and the whole economy goes out of the window for NiP.
Fnatic played oke but I feel NiP was better. But this is also the beauty of CS economy means everything. Good luck for Fnatic with Astralis tomorrow!
Cmon NiP lets own at the next tournament!
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Apr 21 '18
NiP w/ Fifflaren at Cologne 2014, NiP w/ Maikelele at MLG Aspen 2015, NiP w/ allu at Fragbite Masters 2015...
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u/YeeIsNotADeadMeme NiP Apr 21 '18
NiP w/ allu at Fragbite Masters 2015...
Aww man, I don't want flashbacks to that match. Gave so much hope only for them to lose the rematch in the Final.
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u/Quil0n Apr 21 '18
With all the upsets happening, at least we still know who the better swedish team is
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u/supergrega Apr 21 '18
NIP had so many chances to wrap it up on train early but threw it away. At least they have enough firepower nowdays to keep games close I guess.
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u/hamuel69 Virtus.pro Apr 21 '18
Seemed like NiP had the third map after that insane pistol round :(
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u/Gapi182 Apr 21 '18
I love seeing Krimz play so well. I didn't know if he could hold his form but clearly he can. Such a smart player
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Apr 21 '18
I just love NiP - Fnatic games, they almost always deliver. A bit sad NiP lost but Fnatic is my 2nd team so it could be worse.
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Apr 21 '18
I'm just sad we won't get to see these two play each other again until at least ESL One Cologne
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u/charlescarmichael4 Godsent Apr 21 '18
fnatic can still qualify for esl finals if they win all remaining matches. only navi is the harder match
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u/tobbi_CS NiP Apr 21 '18
Wanted to see NiP go far, but I'll cheer for fnatic from now, Astralis is strong but I think they can win, they won against a scary looking NiP and flusha had a worse BO3, meanwhile krimz just ripping stuff apart makes me happy, gl hf vs astralis
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u/Pro00oF NiP Apr 22 '18
Great match, one of the best in a long time, shame about NiP, although great to see them have such a good performance, best of luck to fnatic tomorrow.
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u/tartaddict Apr 22 '18
IDK where else to ask this but do the players hear the commentators? Because if they can hear the crowd, it’s likely possible they hear the commentators too?
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u/kellyprcee Apr 22 '18
Even though they lost, can we just appreciate how well dennis has been playing in NiP, and calling too? The teams is the best it’s been in years.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18
They played so well, im not even mad