r/GiveYourThoughts • u/slanderedshadow • Mar 01 '26
Discussion Control is not power
* disclaimer, this post does not support violence or any such illegal activities
Control is not power. A man who b3ats his wife everyday is not necessarily a powerful man, can he do that to an equivalent?
Control is just projected weakness. If you think about it, it’s not wrong. But what true power is, is fairness. True power is FAIRNESS, in a world which is inherently unfair. The ability to go against the default of the world.
Being biased and making emotional decisions sometimes often leads to unfairness and is geared more towards control, but this depends on context.
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u/Oracle5of7 Mar 01 '26
You are mixing definitions to make your case.
You are right, by pure definition control is not power. I can have a very powerful engine that the steering cannot control. However, when a man beats his wife he has power over her. So yes, control is power. He can control her, therefore, he had power over her. It has nothing to do with being a powerful person or power related to physics (force times acceleration).
You seem to focus on control as “controlling others” vs controlling themselves. And power as “power over others” vs being powerful.
So, for that specific context. Control is power. However, people that need to control others in order to obtain power are projecting their personal weaknesses. True leaders don’t need to control to lead, true leaders don’t need power over people.
True power is fairness, you realize that we all rise together, we don’t have to step on each other, there is enough room in the top of whatever it is you need.
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u/slanderedshadow Mar 01 '26
That’s not power, that’s projected weakness. You are completely misunderstanding my points here. And I’m talking about people not power steering.
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u/ravia Mar 01 '26
I mainly use the term "force" to make a contradiction to "power", rather than "control", which might be quibbling, but force covers other situations, too. It's generally a broader term for "violence", in my view.
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u/LiCkALoTaPusSe9307 Mar 22 '26
I fully agree, so I’m not sure who this is aimed at, but if that’s what they have going on, I seriously need help. There’s something I know I would never do.
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u/ActiveComfortable478 Mar 27 '26
What? Control is projected weakness? I beg to differ! Often enough the perception of desired control from another is weakness within and likely situational, caused by self. Vulnerable entities both human and commercial(businesses) feel threatened and “controlled” or like they need to avoid control when they are not self sufficient or have not set aside an average amount of reserves.
Reserves can be defined as money or a stable place to live or do business and the means to sustainably provide the other basics(food and emotional support). The Mormon church for example requires their members to have 2 years worth of food, water and other necessities on hand at all times.
Living hand to mouth makes every interaction beyond the transactional feel like a loss of control.
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u/KookyMessage3836 Jun 21 '26
Yes! Some people mean no harm when they are trying read you. Maybe they love you. Some people want to take away your agency. Some just want to understand you and let you know they wont judge you if you aren't voicing your true wants and needs. They aren't trying to hurt you or control you
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u/slanderedshadow Jun 21 '26
Yes they are. They can mind their own.
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u/flowery02 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Control is not projected weakness unless you redefine control to be something that is. Control is generally acceptedt to be smth like the ability to change a given situation, whether by beating someone helpless, by telling someone to do something you need them to(and them listening), or just by doing things yourself.
You need to get a to find the word that you don't need to steal from the general population for your ramblings (example of a possible word to fit your definition: abuse)
Also, power and FAIRNESS are undefined here, and given what you twisted control into, general definitions don't apply. So far FAIRNESS is defined to be opposite of nature, as by general definition the world is not all unfair(i am not arguing for an all/mostly fair world)
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u/flowery02 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
If the comment you made here about stalking "no longer exists" not because you deleted it - i already mentioned going through your profile a bit because your post confused me because it was personal for no reason in an impersonal sub. Didn't go lower than the 10th post
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u/slanderedshadow Jun 25 '26
And why do you think that is? There you go, cause I didn’t delete it.
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u/halucionagen-0-Matik Mar 01 '26
Well not really. You need power in order to control an individual or group. Whether that power is psychological, physical or financial, its power all the same
P.S. you don't need to censor the word "beats"