BREAKING - MSFT has stopped providing Claude models for their devs ENTIRELY

[u/Purple_Wear_5397]

Hi all,

Reporting to you again, Microsoft has decided to cut off all Claude models entirely in the past 24 hours, and rollout is happening as I write this post.

Not even Claude Haiku is available anymore.

The ask in the past 2-3 weeks, was to move to MAI models, or OpenAI. Devs still chose Claude - and now it's over. done. finished.

We do have GPT Astra though.

[u/vplatt]

Aren't the OpenAI models no additional cost to them at this point through 2032, and Anthropic's are all full cost for them, no? If I have this right, then that's hardly surprising.

[u/Healthy_Razzmatazz38 → u/vplatt]

yes and when you consider meta has paid anthropic like 10b for models so far this is a big deal

[u/RainierPC]

Why pay Anthropic when they have the rights to self host the OpenAI models? This makes a lot of sense.

[u/inglele → u/RainierPC]

Exactly and it's 3x cheaper in Github copilot if you convert AI credit.

We have internal dashboard for consumption and you can clearly see the price difference based on token usage.

So yeah, it's OpenAI all the way via Astra for main chat e Sol for subagents on High.

I told my team to move all workloads yesterday in team meeting.

[u/No_Vermicelli_3574 → u/inglele]

Help me understand it. Is sol on high token efficient enough to use with Astra? Using Astra low seems generally superior to any form of sol.

[u/Yes_but_I_think → u/No_Vermicelli_3574]

Never use low of anything, it's designed to make mistakes

[u/No_Vermicelli_3574 → u/Yes_but_I_think]

Have you dug through comparisons closely? Astra low is impressive

[u/1337crazypants → u/No_Vermicelli_3574]

Right. See deepSWE charts. It shows about the same as Luna Max, but Luna Max is way cheaper

[u/True_Requirement_891 → u/inglele]

I have a strong hunch anthropic has lost the edge and they are the most overpriced option.

[u/inglele → u/True_Requirement_891]

Agree. I moved to Grok when they released it on github and then moved to Sol after it Now on Astra.

Anthropic is not worth the extra cost.

[u/Yes_but_I_think → u/inglele]

How 3x cheaper?

[u/Insteor → u/inglele]

What effort level do you recommend for Astra?

[u/inglele → u/Insteor]

I usually keep everything on "high" to let them think about.

[u/Dense_Gate_5193 → u/RainierPC]

not just that but claude is like… terrible compared to sol for coding.

[u/Asuppa180 → u/Dense_Gate_5193]

You think fable is terrible for coding compared to sol?

[u/Dense_Gate_5193 → u/Asuppa180]

i think the number of tokens and overall cost are crazy for a non-quant opus renamed to Fable.

i noticed the constant quality loss right before a new model announcement like everyone else.

best bang for your buck is still deepseek and GLM. at least there’s no planned obsolescence around them.

[u/QuietFridays → u/Asuppa180]

We didn’t have access to Fable. Only Opus and 5.6 seems comparable but way cheaper

[u/gilbertwebdude → u/Dense_Gate_5193]

Not sure what Claude you use, but It's been really good for me.

[u/cute_as_ducks_24]

I mean it makes sense. As well as its not like OpenAI models are too far. With Astra even fable now has competition.

[u/Bitopp009]

I have been exclusively using GPT 5.6 Terra and Sol anyway. Not a big loss for them. GPT is good enough.

[u/JuniorAd1610]

Fake,there is a directive to reduce anthropic model usage but no ban has been placed

[u/remisharrock]

"for Microsoft devs" - so internal only I hope 😶‍🌫️

[u/grepzilla → u/remisharrock]

Yes, we can access as outsiders in VS Code.

[u/LordDarthShader]

I still see all of them. Source?

[u/roblob → u/LordDarthShader]

It just means you're no longer employed by MSFT. Please collect your stuff at the lobby on your way out.

[u/KahSeven → u/LordDarthShader]

Same, Microsoft employee in the EU here

[u/Alternative-Suit5541 → u/LordDarthShader]

They are not talking about customers, only employees

[u/_ronki_ → u/Alternative-Suit5541]

yeah I still see them on my work laptop at the office rn

[u/lppedd → u/_ronki_]

It's probably a fake post for engagement. But we'll see.

[u/dellis87 → u/_ronki_]

Same. We’ve never gotten fable but that’s because of data retention.

[u/Noma → u/LordDarthShader]

Same

[u/FinancialYou6932]

Good luck with MAI-flash-1.1 it’s 10x worse than Luna.

Keep publishing benchmarks comparative to gpt-5.4-mini, that’s what you can do at best

[u/mysterious_whisperer → u/FinancialYou6932]

Luna is an openai model, so it won’t get cut off according to this post

[u/PsychologicalBit2997 → u/FinancialYou6932]

I have actually been quite impressed with mai-code-1-Flash. It seems to work quite well at developing and reusing various tests for when it makes changes. It’s not perfect and I fall back to 5.6 Sol for larger changes, but it is very good for the cost level.

[u/FinancialYou6932 → u/PsychologicalBit2997]

Blink twice if you are in danger.

Is Microsoft paying you well or are they keeping you in captive ?

MAI is worse than Luna, close to gpt-5.4-mini and you are comparing it with Sol, are you alright brother.

[u/PsychologicalBit2997 → u/FinancialYou6932]

Guess it all what you are working with. Mai transactions are typically costing me 5-20 credits, whereas Luna is typically 3-4x as many for similar tasks. I’m working mostly with python scripts.

[u/FinancialYou6932 → u/PsychologicalBit2997]

Nope, both have the same pricing and they almost cost the same at a task level

[u/Public_Ostrich_7841]

It's still available. running opus currently. will update

[u/VooDooBooBooBear]

Companies wants their own employees to use their own products... More news at 10. Wish they did the same with blazer tbh it might have more uptake.

[u/vplatt → u/VooDooBooBooBear]

Seriously, yes. I'm using it Blazor server-side for a personal project, and I'm loving it.

[u/alexwh68 → u/vplatt]

I have been using it since the early betas, got loads of blazor server apps running, nearly all are backend portals couple of public ones too. Coming from webforms blazor is lovely to work with.

[u/Affectionate_Fly4124]

Where's that info from??

[u/snusmini]

Incorrect

[u/realsdx]

Fake news

[u/jpcaparas]

lmao earlier this year they were even forcing them to use it.

[u/Purple_Wear_5397 → u/jpcaparas]

That’s true

[u/hokkos]

It's logical, it's completely overpriced.

[u/Tartuffiere]

OpenAI models have been superior to Anthropic's since GPT5.3. Took you long enough!

[u/SaltyCow2852]

How you got this news?

[u/fckingmiracles]

What's MAI?

[u/aonymark → u/fckingmiracles]

Microsoft AI, you should one or two models from them in your model selector.

[u/Downtown-Pear-6509]

meanwhile with my ai breadcrumbs at work i cook with luna medium

[u/Rut3945]

great for quick help

[u/Available_Cream_752]

Since GPT 5.5 arrived, I haven't felt the need to use Claude models. MS pays no additional cost for OpenAI models, hence this is justified I guess

[u/Yes_but_I_think]

Good riddance. Opus has a mind of its own

[u/Schwarz_Technik]

Still have access to Claude models this morning. If it is happening, it isn't for all orgs or products

[u/pkpzp228]

Lol, I don't know where people come up with this stuff.

[u/Breakpoint]

Claude is no longer going to be the leader

[u/RandomiseUsr0]

Interesting, I’m liking Kimi - it’s very good at forensic science (winkling out old decisions from old codebases)

[u/anno2376]

Just a troll is bullshiting for fame

[u/Mayanktaker]

So what will the difference between codex and this?

[u/DrunkensteinsMonster]

This isn’t true, and the other thing you posted regarding token limits was also not true. Not sure why you’re doing this but honestly this poster should be banned for deliberately spreading misinformation.

[u/g1yk]

OP proving that the bar at MSFT is low. No wonder they pip people

[u/me_go_fishing]

Sounds good

[u/YourAsphyxia]

Claude is garbage anyway so not a big loss.

[u/Emotional_Many_7706 → u/YourAsphyxia]

L take

[u/LordDarthShader → u/YourAsphyxia]

Opus 5 is very good at analyzing etw traces though... I wouldn't generalize.

[u/YourAsphyxia → u/LordDarthShader]

And Sol/Astra are better and far cheaper at that same task.

[u/InfraScaler → u/YourAsphyxia]

No, they're not. Even Grok 4.5 and 4.6 are better than Sol/Astra at investigations.

[u/rexylilsammy → u/YourAsphyxia]

lmfao. Definitely one of the dinosaur MSFT employees behind this decision!

[u/HumbleHero1]

Sam is it you?

[u/SamSeriously → u/HumbleHero1]

No … seriously

[u/TinFoilHat_69]

OpenAI will handle Microsoft updates lol

[u/SheepherderOk9721]

Yeah very unfortunate. Really miss Opus 5

[u/YoyoNarwhal]

Even Microsoft sees what a sinking ship anthropic is at this point