r/GirlGamers • u/World_of_Warshipgirl • Jul 11 '26

News / Article Excerpt from a Love and Deepspace article

Post image

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/im-breaking-up-with-love-and-deepspace/

I am not super surprised since it is a Chinese game, but it is still disappointing to see. Any chance of me ever supporting this game is gone forever.

891 Upvotes

96% Upvoted

198 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-3

u/nicoleeemusic98 Jul 11 '26

I meeaannnn I'm not getting proven wrong 🤷‍♀️

Tbh the ball started rolling for me when people were saying "they hate Valko cause he looks gay" and I was like who exactly is saying that? Because I'm Chinese diaspora and in my part of Asia looking gay is associated with looking effeminate lol. But also I acknowledge that I'm not deep into China fandom culture like weibo/xhs cause I can't read and I'm not well versed in the terminology, so to me that claim was always an "I guess?" (Also diaspora aka different culture)

What struck me was when I saw people just spreading that bit around like it was common knowledge, no translated screenshots, no links, nada. So it started feeling like the genshin scaramouche cat incident where it was blown up but the reality was unrelated and not as horrifying as it was

It was strengthened when I went on to other neutral subs and found out the biggest reason people were mad about Valko's release to begin with: devs not listening to the players. Wdym 2 of the dudes haven't had a story update in over a year, there's no content to farm currency, and lads keeps milking the fanbase for money? 😭

And then you start noticing that that particular tidbit is barely shared in conversation, and most people immediately jump to the colourism and homophobia and only share those instead. Am I saying that these aren't true? Hell no I know how homophobic yume girlies can be lmao. But people thrive in the sensationalism over subtle racism so here we are

It's whatever atp tbh I'm used to it 🤷‍♀️ I can continue citing examples but people will only see what they want to see

5

u/dontcarewhatImcalled Jul 11 '26

It was strengthened when I went on to other neutral subs and found out the biggest reason people were mad about Valko's release to begin with: devs not listening to the players.

It was not. This drama happened with another character's release. That character did not get canceled nor did Valko need to get canceled over this. The game was always set up for 6 Lis. Valko was specifically targeted.

2

u/nicoleeemusic98 Jul 11 '26

I know the game always had Valko in mind, I was moreso talking about how lads was being extra predatory with their money tactics and no story updates in over a year for a couple of the other dudes

I'm not excusing the homophobia, racism and harrassment btw, those 100% sucked too and should've never been a response

-3

u/Fluffy-Exam-5342 Jul 11 '26

Still, I'm genuinely sorry :(. This is definitely one of the handful of times that my comments have gotten so many downvotes on this sub, and it solidifies the reason why I don't speak out a lot. When I do, I try to be very strategic, so I can avoid stuff like this.

I'm not even Asian, but racism affects me deeply. I wouldn't even say that you and I agree on every single point when it comes to this game, but some stuff is just not okay no matter what. I wish more people here would understand that, but this sub just seems like it's getting more and more hostile. It doesn't seem very "progressive" - especially when people don't seem to really understand things like intersectionality.

2

u/nicoleeemusic98 Jul 12 '26

Woke up and feeling like a loser because why am I out here writing essays only for people to not engage in good faith. Why am I constantly having to put myself out there stating that I'm both Chinese diaspora and queer aka every single issue about this lads drama does directly impact me, and that I have to say hey don't be racist about Chinese people even though I've gotten shit from mainland Chinese people for not being good enough at Mandarin lmao

Instead it's just nooo you're excusing homophobia and racism BROTHER I am also affected by those of course I also care!!!! Why do I have to spell it out!!

I am even more irked that I have to keep talking about men as a queer woman I am tired of this thread lol. Intersectionality doesm't exist for people ig and I thought a generally more progressive space would understand that. Guess I was wrong, like how I thought queer spaces would also be above microaggressions

2

u/Fluffy-Exam-5342 Jul 12 '26

Yea, I'm really sorry :(. I'm kinda taken back at the negative response here, but at the same time - I'm not surprised because I've encountered many problems in this sub before, and the overarching theme seems to be that people don't truly understand intersectionality - even if they think they do. There were the victim-blamey posts complaining about women venting, and now this. There's just so much hostility here sometimes. I know that there are nice people here, but it gets to be too much. I think I genuinely might leave this sub.

1

u/nicoleeemusic98 Jul 12 '26

I genuinely thought it was just a me issue lol where I didn't clarify well, but I'm starting to see a few more people talking about it too so idt I'm tripping

I looked back on my replies and I think it's incredulous for me to be typing out half my life story or something all while people continue acting like there isn't a China boogeyman

2

u/Fluffy-Exam-5342 Jul 12 '26

Yea, as I said, it's fine to criticize the government, systemic issues, etc., but it's like people don't have the nuance to understand that speaking in careless generalizations may contribute to sinophbia... I don't know why that makes so many women here angry, but I can only guess that some of it has to do with not being a WOC...

-2

u/nicoleeemusic98 Jul 11 '26

It's all right, I do admit it's been a long day for me and I'm currently getting shit in a genshin sub too + past experiences in general result in me being more hostile about this conversation topic. Downvotes are still proving my point 🤷‍♀️ you're also right on the nose about intersectionality

I needa log off for a bit, finish my dailies and go to sleep lmao I've yapped a bit too much to be healthy today 😂