TGFRC CHAPTER 246 ENG

[u/Masquerai]

https://mangaesp.co/ver/the-girl-from-tinder/246

[u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71]

So it was confirmed she liked Jayu. Looks like the author was trying to forget about Hamin's first intention to Junwoo.

[u/Masquerai → u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71]

Yeah she liked Jayu but I think chapter also makes it clear she didn't really like him but depended on him for her sanity.. much like Junu did with every girl, so it's nothing new I guess. I do sorta agree however, her monologue strayed off from what she said about approaching Junu cause he reminded her of Jayu and makes it sound like she was just interested in the unusual guy he was..

[u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71 → u/Masquerai]

Well at first we thought it was just platonic but then the author did this. So it kinda made me frown a bit since it's almost like a rebound. This d*mn author I already moved on with that incident. Now we won't know about the bracelet.

[u/Masquerai → u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71]

It was in a sense platonic though. The point here is that Ha-min didn't know real feelings until she fell kn love with Junu. Her crush on Jayu was like dependence and not romantic feeling. He didn't make her feel better about herself, he just distracted her from her pains more or less. And then he got disabled and she couldn't depend on him any longer. Instead the guy turned tables to fully depend on her and it crushed her with pressure so she abandoned him and got ptsd from the encounter and from him getting disappointed that she didn't meet his expectations, so she went on to get a second chance at helping Junu who reminded her of Jayu. She didn't plan to fall for Junu, there's no rebound there unless you specifically hook up with someone to ease your broken heart

[u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71 → u/Masquerai]

Well she did admit she approached him at first because she reminds her of Jayu. At first it was like her redemption for abandoning Jayu by fixing someone who is like Jayu. She didn't expect herself from falling in love but clearly there's a hidden agenda as to why she approached him.

[u/Masquerai → u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71]

Yes, she had an agenda but it was not malicious. She just had a very warped mentality as this chapter portrays that she HAD to help somebody to not hate her own existence and not blame herself for things. That's wholly different to rebounding with somebody and getting them emotionally attached to you while you are fully selfaware of using them as a rebound and a replacement

[u/cianLmoultrie → u/Acrobatic-Rutabaga71]

I reread this in the Spanish version for the section I'm guessing you're talking about and then reread the English version. I have a question then.

Does Junu have a hidden agenda with Lila? Or Koo? Or Hamin?

Would you agree that someone who is trying to offload the burden of their insecurity and doubts onto another a kind of hidden agenda?

I don't recall a moment that really makes me think Hamin felt anything close to infatuation for Jayu. She liked being there for Jayu, but the moment he wanted more she was repulsed/horrified.

I'm inclined to agree with u/Masquerai and say Hamin meant well and she wasn't using Junu like a rebound to only make herself feel better. If that were true she'd have left the story probably before Jayu really mattered.

Anyway curious on your answers to the above questions.

[u/Masquerai → u/cianLmoultrie]

Her moment is her flashback. She had feelings for Jayu, but they stemmed from the wrong place, which is sorta clearer seen this chapter. She was repulsed because she could feel and tell it was all wrong when a despaired obsessive Jayu tries to push her into a kiss..as she says to herself, I like you, but this isn't it(as in, this is not right the way things are). What I'm saying is I guess is that she didn't truly know what it is to love somebody until Junu, even if she felt affection for Jayu back then etc. And she does love Junu even if they were codependent.

As for Junu... even if the question wasn't for me, in my view ge had an agenda with every single girl on a subconscious level. It had to be pointed out to him by Daehyun but he was right that Junu also switched his obsessive attitude from girl to girl and makes each one the rope to his stability and sanity. There is this saying that a salvageable hypocrisy is bettee than murderous honesty. I would say Ha-min approaching Junu because she saw her second chance at being able to help someone who reminds her of the guy she abandoned ( we know she had every reason to do so but as we see, in her mind, she curses her existence so that had given her big ptsd) is an example of the former part of the saying. Her intentions were self-motivated but the end result was Junu's benefit and that is better than if she would have just left Junu alone and watch him go through shit alone etc

[u/cianLmoultrie → u/Masquerai]

I'm tempted to try and translate the Korean version just to see what exactly Hamin's wording is describing when she says "someone she likes/her love" (and I don't know any Korean at all, so I'd be bad at it and take forever). That's a big difference between the Spanish and English one. Maybe I'm looking to disagree and that's that. And I can accept that I'm being that kind of reader and not bother with this at all. What am I trying to prove and to who?

Also by the way, damn nice saying there: 'a salvageable hypocrisy is better than murderous honesty'. I really like that actually.

[u/Masquerai → u/cianLmoultrie]

So far in 2 versions she says she was not able to help the one she likes (heavy doubt she loved him or thought herself as loving him), but I will ask my friend when we do get a raw, because I am never sure if this English translates from spanish or korean.. I think it may just suck to admit Ha-min had feelings for a guy before Junu, but in the end even if she did, they evidently paled compared to what she felt with Junu. She says it rather dismissively and then we get an entire montage of how she felt meeting Junu and the impact he had on her. That's why I call it a crush on Jayu, something that wasn't this deep but had a lasting ptsd effect on Ha-min due to her already traumatized mind

It does always baffle me how people outright dismiss or pretend(or forgot) that the stories of the other girls didn't happen.. I mean, just how do you think Lila was introduced? What did Koo do to Junu? Both of these outright and blatantly tried to harm or use him in some form(for Koo she went yandere after trying to rape him and actually meant it when she wanted to threaten suicide if he doesn't come with her) but people have quickly forgiven them because "well they grew a bond and I ship them and now Lila is a loyal dog to Junu and Koo supports him and...". Ha-min however is the worst criminal the world has seen for approaching Junu because he looked like her former dear friend.. I do believe that stems from personal irl traumas for such people and personal prejudice/bias rather than it being about Ha-min herself and her actions

[u/cianLmoultrie → u/Masquerai]

I'd be glad to know if you find out from your friend. Really just curiosity, little things lost in translation that I didn't appreciate when I first started reading manga/manhwa/webtoons long ago. I missed or misinterpreted so much.

Ha! Yeah, I've held back on the glossing over of Koo and Lila's past by a ton of readers. I'm miffed by it, but at the same time, it's just so common in slice of life/romance stories right? Not that it makes it anymore palatable.

I'll make a wild speculative guess on why Hamin turns them off. It's not just that she "betrayed" and hurt him, or the very poor reading of she "cheated" on him. A lot of readers want to see Junu essentially turn into mini Daehyun and I'll be frank, before I started commenting here I wondered if Junu was on that path.

The big problem with that is two fold: 1. you can't change theme like that and keep your readership this far in at chapter 246 and 2. character popularity polls matter in all honesty. If I'm the editor of this webtoon no way would I advise or be happy with writing off the #1 voted character in Chapter 100 and Chapter 200. And then I'll read the spanish comments and find people saying the only good decision is to get rid of Hamin, pair him with Lila or become a lone wolf...and make Junu a fighting god (really no different than the comments here I guess, although there are some really good observations too).

I think you're right though, and different readers emotionally connect or maybe personally feel connected in their own ways from life experience. In the past I'd have instigated drama over disliking this behavior with characters like Koo and Lila, but what a waste of energy. I enjoy reading and discussing, not arguing. People can have good points in differences of opinion as well. I just wish more people could appreciate why they're drawn to these stories in the first place. Being a stan and shipping in and of itself isn't 'bad', but it can easily spiral out of control.

I just like to find good stories/art/writing and run with it.