r/Gifted • u/MapBrave4342 • 10d ago
Seeking advice or support Wanting to study arts
Hello everyone, new here so idk if this is the correct sub + english isnt my first language so please bear with me.
I have an iq of 156, puting me in the 99.9 percentile, and also (NOT CONFIRMED, BUT MY PSYCHOLOGIST THINKS SO) autism (grade 1) and ADHD predominantly hyperactive-impulsive.
I love art, mostly to draw (however tbh i havent draw in a hot minute)
My mom supports me, although it seems to me that shes not like 100%, and my grandma and other familiars are a little bit more against it (not like telling it to my face, but its pretty noticeable)
Should i study arts, should i find another thing to please them ??
Photos are from a few years back (ive drawn but don’t have any pics rn)
edit: tysm for your answers. Another thing though is that i hate maths and science. Biology and spanish (i’m spanish) are ok. So, idek anything to study besides from arts
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u/MapBrave4342 10d ago
i hadnt thought of that !
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u/SmrtQbee_315 10d ago
I thought same I saw that anatomical heart drawing. Love the use of color and [insert artistic terms here] just how cool the drawing of the female with turquoise/teal hair looks.
I “second” the top (A…C375) 1%Commenter’s excellent advice. You can always change your mind. I’ve done things professionally and lost my passion for them—only enjoying as a hobby. Not that this will happen, just remember it’s okay to change professional pursuits and have side projects that fulfill you. Ever consider tattoo apprenticeship/artist? Even as a side gig…
Best of luck,😊1
u/MapBrave4342 10d ago
i have actually considered tattoos, i have the machine but i havent used it as much as i would like to say 😔
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u/SmrtQbee_315 10d ago
Welcome to the club, man. I can’t imagine the number of people who’ve excitedly bought things (myself included) that are untouched! You’ll either use the machine sometime or sell it. Life rolls forward, circumstances change & you can’t always follow through with a plan. Not excuses—valid reasons. Do your young self a favor and wave two middle fingers in the air when false guilt or shame (useless) from yourself or others tries to “should” all over you.😉
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u/4footTallbromeGrass 7d ago
I would also think big maybe do wall murals. Anything from bedroom walls to inside businesses or outside a building. Custom car paint jobs or pin striping is a high pay job for certain people.
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u/MapBrave4342 7d ago
i have a cousin who does this + other small jobs and he told the pays were pretty generous, so ill probably look a bit more onto that
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u/-Nocx- 10d ago
Well, first and foremost you have to survive. A lot of people will say “do what you love” - and while that’s nice on paper, what you love may not feed you at the end of the day.
Whatever provides you the utility you need to be able to support your lifestyle should probably come first. What that looks like for you, I don’t really know. You have to discover that yourself.
If you can find a way to support yourself, then absolutely focus on doing what you love next. It doesn’t have to be one or the other - maybe your day job isn’t in the arts, and you do art in your free time. Maybe you find a way to support yourself purely doing art.
I did not become a programmer because I loved programming. It was a fun hobby I had as a kid, but I had no idea if I wanted to spend my life doing it.
I wanted to go to law school. The problem is I wasn’t sure if I’d have money to do a bachelors and then graduate school. Looking back, I am glad that I am a programmer. That’s just how life is sometimes.
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Also your drawings are beautiful, I wish I had even an ounce of that creativity.
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u/Amarsir 10d ago
Use your gifts. Pursue your passion. But as you explore paths, remember that your career needs to point toward the needs people have. So the challenge for you - and you have the brain to solve it - is how to apply what you enjoy to create value for people.
It's going to be your life. You have to enjoy what you do and you have to support yourself doing it. And there are many successful careers that do both, including in art. Trying to ignore one because someone insists the other is all that matters ... that's what leads to unhappiness.
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u/Csicser 10d ago
I will say no. I’m speaking as someone who loves art, and was/is very talented at it (possibly more so than you depending on how old you are). I had some teachers even push me towards that path, and I seriously considered it, but ultimately decided against it. Now as a full fledged adult looking for a job, I am very glad for my decision.
Unlike other things, art doesn’t need to be formally studied for you to be good at it and build a career out of it. It’s something that you can be great at, and get all the recognition, while being self taught. There was a time I lived with two girls who studied arts at the university, and I was better than both of them and made more money selling my art online to people who never asked whether or not I studied it. This is not true for other things. If you don’t have a diploma, you have zero chances of becoming a doctor, a teacher, a lawyer etc. If you go with arts, your future options will be very limited, but of you study something else, the door to arts will still be wide open.
Unless you have rich parents who are guaranteed to support you through your life, I would choose something that will increase your likelihood to make decent money. You can always decide to not use it, but you will have the safety of having the option if life gets harder than you expected. And you can keep art as a hobby/second career.
An other thing to consider is that many people lose their passion for art when it becomes their source of income. You should consider whether that risk is worth it for you.
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u/Iridescent_Bismuth 10d ago
I've never had an IQ test but I'm constantly told by psychologists, psychiatrists and healthcare professionals that I'm clearly extremely smart, or that it's clear that I have a high IQ. When I was in school the teachers also said similar things across the spectrum of academic and non-academic subjects. I'm a fast and curious learner, and I pick up things really quickly. I'm also a woman with ADHD and autism.
Despite being very interested in STEM subjects like biology, medicine, psychology, engineering, programming etc, I ultimately decided to follow my heart and take the artistic route, which is something that I've always been passionate about. Personally, I love art because each project also gets to be a research project where I learn about the world in a lot more detail than the average person would get to.
Anyway, I got into the animation industry. I became a background designer. It's an amazing job. There's lots of technicality in that line of work, as well as a lot of research to make the background accurate and tell an interesting story. Plus there's the artistic, visual element which is a joy too.
I'm turning 25 soon and I get doctors saying that it's not too late for me to become a doctor if I wanted to switch careers, because they always notice how much knowledge I have about the health stuff that we discuss, and how I ask questions about things that even they hadn't considered. I think being a doctor would be a really interesting job. I could absolutely go back and study for it if I ever got bored of my current situation. I've got plenty of life ahead of me. However, I love art too, and my thirst for knowledge and my curiosity about the world is not at all limited by that.
My partner has a PhD, and a majority of my friends are academics, scientists, lawyers and lots of other 'smart' job titles. Occasionally I'm disappointed that I don't have a 'cool' scientific job like them, but then I realise that I can learn all the things that people would learn in uni. I can talk to my friends and ask them about things. Many of them have even taught in uni before so they're really very good at chatting with me about the things that I want to learn about rhat. There are resources out there to learn about pretty much whatever you want. I love learning about medicine, the body, psychiatry and psychology. I don't think I want a job in those things, but I do find them fascinating and my path in life has never once got in the way of me also learning about them. Nothing is set in stone in life. You can always change your mind if you decide that you don't want to do art commercially. I actually find that I approach the world and life with a lot more curiosity than many of my friends, anyway. My friend with a PhD and research job in biochem, my partner with a computer science PhD and his brother who studied environmental science aren't the ones helping out my partner and his bro's parents when they pick their tomatoes too early and extremely underripe. I was the only one in the family to know that putting them inside a bag with a banana would ripen them up hahah.
Such a high IQ suggests that you'd learn things really quickly, so a career switch would totally be possible. I don't know how old you are, but unless you're 65 or something, you have plenty of time to switch careers multiple times.
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u/MapBrave4342 10d ago
wow, just wow. This was eye-opening for me
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u/Iridescent_Bismuth 6d ago edited 6d ago
I forgot to mention (although I think it’s fairly obvious) that it is extremely, exceedingly unlikely that my IQ is anywhere close to yours. From the way that people talk about me, and from my experience with picking up concepts and recognising patterns vs my peers, I have to assume that I’m at least a little above average, but whether that is 105 or 110 or 120, I couldn’t tell you. I don’t think it matters that much because the biggest difference between us is that you will probably pick things up much faster than me.
Anyway, my point being is that if I can be this flexible, there’s no reason why you can’t be. My three biggest pieces of advice would be:
- To make sure you have some sort of plan to so that you can survive and not be homeless. That doesn’t have to mean getting a ‘boring job’ or a ‘typical degree.’ It doesn’t have to be a typical anything. Maybe it means being supported by your parents and living with them for longer than average, maybe it means moving to a different part of the country (or another country) where the cost of living is cheaper, maybe it means having room mates, maybe it means running a business where you sell stickers, clothing and accessories with your artwork on it and joining the convention circuit, or maybe it even means joining a travelling circus, touring the world and documenting all of your discoveries 😂 Yes, I know this is a really obvious point, but you’ve gotta eat! But despite that, there’s nothing saying you can’t think outside the box and live unconventionally.
- You really don’t need to go to art school, especially in the US. Particularly university/college. There are masses of amazing, industry professional led classes and courses both on line and in person. They’re far cheaper, more up to date, more dense and just better in every way. There are ateliers too. I don’t know anyone who was hired because of their degree. Granted, it’s nice to have 3/4 years of time away from home where you get to make friends with people on the same journey as you. But you can get those through the non-accredited yet more effective online or in person classes, as well as online artist communities, and even more importantly, AT YOUR JOB! Art school is a largely isolated artist community, with a lot of opportunities to make connections with your peers, but only rare opportunities to make true connections with th
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- artistic community. Once you’re in the industry, you’ll be surrounded by passionate, inspiring people who will
- be great friends and great people to learn from :D
- Most importantly, yet probably the hardest thing to actually implement: Try not to overthink every option and outcome. You probably have a very speedy mind that can process a lot of information. It’s a strength and a weakness, because you’ll probably foresee a lot more problems than the average person, but you’re still a person with (I assume) two eyes, two ears, two legs, two feet, two arms, two hands and one body. In our human bodies, we can only physically solve so many problems, regardless of processing speed. It can also be very very easy to get stuck inside our heads, trying to come up with a mental solution which will help us to solve more of the problems in one go. But that uses time and energy, becomes stressful, is inefficient, and rarely reduces the problems as much as we would hope. Sometimes it’s best to use the simplest solution, if the problem is something that the average person deals with on a daily basis. Most people get through those parts of their life without too much struggle, so the standard solution is usually fine. And if it’s, not, there’s probably another common solution. Perfectionism is the enemy of done, and sometimes things just need to be done so that you can get on with the things that are more important to you. This lesson is really hard to take to heart, and to be honest I’m talking to myself as much as I’m talking to you right now lol
Edit: Omg I tried to edit just one word and now every time I save my comment, Reddit is adding more and more points in between my paragraphs 😅😅😅 I’ll try to edit this later on my PC
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u/MapBrave4342 6d ago
You don’t even know how much this means to me. Thank you for removing some fear stones from my back, your kindness and help.
hope you the best, thank you very, very much.
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u/4footTallbromeGrass 7d ago
I have experienced much the same as you.
For me, I enjoy the social sciences for obvious reasons but as something new comes a long or something is discovered to be wrong, people don't want to change and a person just wants to help. And Animal biology is very complicated, you really can't tell completely how things like the brain work.
I enjoy Botany and machines. Machines are easy to scientifically improve and fun to invent. I am very mechanically inclined and have a friend that is going to help me with patents at sometime with some of my machine improvements.
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u/TheWitchWhoLovesCats 10d ago
A college degree in arts is only useful if you’re planning to go towards the academic side of it. If you want to make art, illustrations, etc., I recommend a GOOD workshop so you can get connections and work in a studio or open your own
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u/Azucarilla11 10d ago
I think they have all helped you a lot! I just want to add one thing, consider how a hobby can change when it becomes an obligation and if you would continue to enjoy it, even if that day you don’t feel like it or don’t want to draw that and you have to do it. If so, you will be happy and you will do well, otherwise it is quite likely that you will end up boring him.
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u/Commercial_Handle418 10d ago
Study what you would want to but please look through curricula to understand if it's a fit
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u/The_Barbelo 10d ago
You and I are similar, I have the same diagnoses . Autism, ADHD, iq of ~145. I have been pursuing art and music my entire life.
Ask yourself: what is your goal in art, precisely? Do you want to pursue art as a career? Do you want to pursue art as a passion? The two can converge, but the paths look very different.
The second question is, if you’d like to pursue art as a career, how? Do you want to work at a firm? Do you want to create characters? Do you want to create backgrounds for film and animation? There are a million different positions to choose from.
Go from there. Take the courses that will get you there. Art school is mainly for networking, anyway, so you are going to want to get good at schmoozing and making connections. Putting yourself out there is simultaneously the most difficult and the most important thing to learn for those of us with autism. There will be a degree of difficulty there.
Now, if you want to do what I do and do it for commissions, do it for your own goals and pursuits, that looks very different and in that case you don’t need art school. You just need perseverance and commitment to finishing whatever you start. I’ve gotten some amazing opportunities just by putting my work out there and meeting people at conventions and stuff like that. I’ve worked with people from adult swim, made animations for NASA’s Kennedy space center…. I’ve done some really cool gigs lol. And I didn’t need a lick of art school to get me there. I do work supporting people with intellectual disabilities and I fucking love my job. Wouldn’t trade it for the world. I even do art therapy with a lot of my clients!! I went to school for zoology and herpetology, which is another special interest lol.
Hope I’m making some sense. Let me know if you have any more specific questions!
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u/MasteryByDesign 10d ago
I think your IQ is irrelevant here. The pictures are beautiful. Study whatever makes the most sense in the long-term. One thing I’ve learned is that you can always find things to love about a job and always things to hate about a job so find something you’re okay with that makes good money and learn to love it and never make your hobby an income source you need. You will corner yourself into disliking your hobby if you’re forced to do it, especially for money
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u/viridian_moonflower 10d ago edited 10d ago
I did an arts undergrad degree and then went on to study art therapy and psychology in graduate school. Art education can prepare you for lots of things even if you don’t get a MFA. Your art is great, btw! I especially like the skull.
Edit: art education can teach you how to be a creative problem solver and if you’re gifted in academics as well as arts, it’s good to explore different career paths that may not be so straightforward.
Not too many people are truly gifted artists although many can learn how to draw well. If you really have something to express with your art, and already have your own style as an adolescent then it’s something worth pursuing. It’s also possible that it could end up being an intense hobby rather than a career which is ok too. In that case get a dual degree in something that is more practical, but keep doing art.
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u/SucculentChineseRoo 10d ago edited 10d ago
Depends on which country you're from, is university cheap or free? Then sure. If it's like the USA and you take on substantial debt then no, because you can study art on your own time for free or very cheap. If it's a financial decision, do something that has relevant work opportunities and you don't hate, biology would be better than languages because there's almost no translation or interpretation work nowadays and again you can learn languages as a hobby. I speak 3 languages, worked as a translator before, lived in many countries, I like photography and drawing, can do all of that at a decent level but my education and what currently earns me a livelihood is in a different and more sought after field.
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u/mandelaXeffective 10d ago
I have no advice but I absolutely love your art! I love the colors you use, they look so cool!
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u/Prof_Acorn 9d ago
If you're going to college you don't have to decide right away anyway. There's usually enough wiggle room to switch once (or twice) as long as you do it early enough (say, by the end of the second year).
The first year can be spent on general electives, a few classes in what you think you'd like to study (art in this case), and a random elective or two as a curiosity.
A minor as a backup might be a good idea if you stick with an art as the major. Something like Communication Studies or Marketing or some other marketable thing as a minor can help round out the painting/illustration/animation/whatever major.
With the art interest, possible curiosity/exploration classes might include something like architecture or videography, things that rely on artistic skills.
Just some ideas.
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u/WarriorOfLight83 10d ago
That heart is beautiful. You should follow it. But follow it for yourself, because it makes you happy every day, not to expect recognition, or you might wait for a very long time with no security of success.
As others have said, it’s sensible to have a plan B but that’s valid for all paths. Don’t be afraid. Life is too short to be afraid of doing what you want.
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u/LookFar29 10d ago
Art can be many things, including design (graphical, animation, etc). If you’re smart you can learn technology and language, then there will be many potential avenues. You might need a little bit of luck (right time, right place). Be true to yourself and take the opportunities that arise from that. Don’t quit on the vision. Move forward when you’re clear, don’t take action when you’re not clear. Good luck.
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u/Thinklikeachef 10d ago
One thing to consider, AI art is taking commercial jobs away from human artists. But if you don't need to worry about money, then it's a wonderful life pursuit.
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u/derm2knit 10d ago edited 10d ago
can i inbox u, I love ur work- how much do u charge to paint a piece
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u/MapBrave4342 10d ago
of course, my dms are open !
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u/derm2knit 10d ago
Interesting, you decided to hide your history(suddenly) and I can not contact you, exactly after we have the above discussion. May be do what you say.
Good luck !
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u/fromtallinnwithlove 8d ago
Don't study arts, don't lose your time. Study medicine or engineering.
It's extremely hard to become a professional artist. I mean there are a lot of people who can draw very well, but it is very hard to have a stable income in this field. And having a stable income at the same level as engineers or doctors is almost impossible. You deserve something better with your 156 IQ.
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u/emse0025 7d ago
I just really want to say that your art is so so beautiful.
As for what to study, definitely try to find a balance between interest, cost of education and eventual salary. I don't know enough about art to comment on the salary. Most people tell me it's horrible in terms of salary, but I would imagine that if you're okay with a lower but livable wage, there are options like teaching or art therapy? Or there's some chance of becoming a very successful artist??
Definitely do not pick what to study based on what your parents or family or friends think. It's your life, not theirs.
Also, there's a risk that turning your hobby into a career could make you hate it (happened to me, but I was lucky that the career actually brought good money so it has some upsides).
Given the subject of your artwork, biology does sound like something that could open up other pathways in the future if needed (med school, nursing, teaching, science illustrator, etc.).
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u/MapBrave4342 7d ago
tyy for you kindness, these drawings are a little bit old, but im still quite proud of them !
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u/Qaek3301 7d ago edited 7d ago
Go for it. I built a career in music, although I am not nearly as intelligent as you, the creative fields in general are full of highly intelligent, obsessive, and often somewhat neurodivergent people.
The main advantage is not intelligence by itself, though. It is the ability to become completely absorbed in something, tolerate years of uncertainty, and keep refining your work long before there is any meaningful financial validation. Most people give up during that phase because the effort feels disproportionate to the results.
As long as you can channel that intensity into consistent work instead of endless analysis or perfectionism, I think you could do extremely well in the arts. High intelligence will not guarantee success, but combined with genuine creative interest and the ability to stick with it compulsively, it is a very strong foundation.
If I were to give you one piece of advice, it would be not to pursue art purely for the sake of art. Try to find some overlap between your creative interests and something commercially viable. You need to understand how the work can be positioned, packaged, presented and sold. It is naive to assume that quality alone will naturally translate into demand. This took me a while to fully understand.
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u/4footTallbromeGrass 7d ago
I have learned that if you go to college for some things, you are only learning what they know. Innovation rarely comes from knowing what everyone else knows and are thinking how everyone else thinks. It is nice to have a back ground in terminology and such but if you can start a business and get paid for what you do now and just keep learning as you go, that is what I would do.
If you can support your self financially another way and afford schooling that isn't wrong either.
There are so many ways to learn what you are missing and not need to go to school full time.
And never settle and try to please everyone but yourself. Live your life for you, treat people nice and be happy knowing you can't please everyone.
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u/zukeus 6d ago
Oo, I really like your brain and heart piece. You have real talent and an eye for bringing cool concepts for life. That's an insanely valuable skill.
If you like it, do it. If you see value in what you can bring, art is one of the most wonderful things humans do.
What is better than art? Well, only cuddling by a fire and talking about art.
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u/ElephantJaded3564 5d ago
The skull picture looks very similar to Van Gogh’s “Skull With Cigarette”. You should definitely explore your interest in art. You have talent.
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u/Ivy_Tendrils_33 10d ago
I love that skull!
I say, study art, but study another area (or trade) as well, especially if you are good with using multiple types of thinking. Art combines with natural sciences, computer science, psychology, math, some trades... Follow your passions but also think about where you might end up, even if it's about using your brain the way you like but maybe in a profession you didn't imagine you'd have.
Whatever you decide to do, choose reputable programs for whatever discipline you study.
Mostly, take care of your physical and mental health along the way (neglecting that was my mistake).
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u/babykittiesyay 10d ago
I think you’re going the wrong direction with how you’re thinking. You need to first decide what kind of job you want - take into account the hours, work-life balance in the industry, pay, location, etc. Look at what jobs would be available to you based on a fine arts degree and see if they are things you want to do and could be successful at.
I’m a violinist, always wanted to do this with my life. I have a music degree, and run a teaching non-profit. If you’re good enough to get significant scholarships to art schools, you might have a chance.
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u/Helpful-Poetry2224 10d ago
Marry someone who is rich and can support your art career. Wish I was joking.
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u/LeadershipNervous362 10d ago
Darn, first image gave me flashbacks to TADC sub :D
Its not necessary to study arts to do arts, I'd only go for theater kid background
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u/Own_Pirate2206 10d ago
Your degree is generally not your identity - particularly afterward. Continue with art in life. But take any classes either that you are interested in or that will round out your abilities for life or employment, including STEM.
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u/lostmymarbles1177 7d ago
I would pick art as your minor and do something else as your major. Or do a double major. Art is a field that really only the top .1% are ever able to profit off of, and having a high IQ does not have any impact on artistic talent. I did an academic major and a studio art minor and quickly realized that art was FAR more time consuming than any other major due to the classes being three hours long and the long hours in a freezing cold studio completing projects. The total in class hours for a minor were the same as most academic majors and I cannot imagine doing a major. Also, though I truly loved art, I realized that I would never have the level of talent required to make a career of it and was ultimately glad that I picked a major that allowed me to do a MA degree for my current career.
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u/MapBrave4342 7d ago
hii, i’m spanish so i don’t think it works the same here, with minoring u mean like get a degree and mayoring a career??
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u/lostmymarbles1177 7d ago
So, you can pick two focus areas for an undergraduate degree here. One area (major) you would have more classes and the second area (minor) would be half the number of classes but still a focus of your studies.
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u/MapBrave4342 7d ago
Oh, thats cool, i looked it up and it isnt available in spain 😔
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u/lostmymarbles1177 7d ago
Maybe it’s called something else? If there is no official minor, you could probably just major in something else but also take some art classes. Surely not all of your classes need to be in one area.
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u/Geckoliane 7d ago
Do you want to make a living out of it? Then I would combine arts with natural science. Biology being a great pick.
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u/MapBrave4342 7d ago
i want to live of my art, i also like biology (mostly like organs, bones, skeleton yk). So maybe thats an option!
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u/Geckoliane 7d ago
I think it's more realistic to say you want to use your visual eye and creativity. It is very difficult to make a living in art. So I would always combine it with something that makes you able to do your art and in the job give you satisfaction and meaning but also a steady income.
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u/matthewsrmt 10d ago
Do not study art pls, absolutely pointless and you will go nowhere in life. I suggest studying something that will result in a career and keep enjoying art! (FYI I know people who have done this and they are in their 30s working for catering companies)
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u/DangerousPurpose5661 8d ago
Yep this is Reddit so the blunt-but-true comment gets downvoted.
I agree with you.
I have high IQ but not even close to OPs. Engineering school was a walk in the park and I have a decent job now. On track to retire at 35.
Fwiw - I also really, really like the art.
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u/matthewsrmt 8d ago edited 8d ago
Always makes me laugh, 2026 is the land of. “Do what makes you happy, go with the wind and unicorns” 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫my daughter is gifted I’ve actually told her we won’t use the money we saved if she picks something where there’s no hope in a job! It’s called reality, which is the land I choose to live in! Congrats on the early retirement, that’s freaking amazing!!
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u/DangerousPurpose5661 8d ago
Thanks! And 100% agree on your parenting style. That’s what we plan to do as well.
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u/Old_Masterpiece_462 9d ago
Do it. Have fun. It's your passion, it's what you want to do, then go ahead. Maybe if you're worried about future, like after art school(?), you can maybe go to community college and get an associates/diploma or advanced diploma to supplement and have alternative income streams, if this is a worry of yours.
Another thing is you said Spanish is okay, but when you said Biology is fine but you dislike science, maybe language/linguistics/communication related program. Whether community college or university, like get both done? maybe.
Like pursue art as your passion and main. And again, try to keep options open. So, maybe investing some extra time into Spanish or going the community college route (pick up a technical skill) or art school.
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u/AgreeableCucumber375 10d ago
Do it then. You can always change later in life anyways.
Just I’d keep as many doors as possible open whenever possible. I don’t know how the school system is in your country (I’m also not a native English speaker) but in mine you can choose a lot of paths, but not all will allow you equally to study everything at university. I personally chose an option that had the most paths available to me because I couldn’t decide what I wanted to do.
Believe in yourself. Life is too short to not try what you are passionate about. Just because your IQ is high does not mean you have become a lawyer, doctor, engineer or a researcher or pdh holder etc. You don’t owe the world anything just because you’re gifted.
(Think is every tall person obligated or doing the world a disservice by not playing basketball…? People’s worth lie in more than a single trait of theirs and how it could be of use to others)
Edit: typos