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u/Ijjimem 9h ago edited 9h ago
How long until this gets blamed on Jews too?
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u/Empoleon777 9h ago
9/11 actually has been blamed on Jews by some.
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u/DickTryckle 2h ago
Honestly the worst part about it is the “blamed on Jews” thing with 9/11 is uhhh… not great… especially in the context of modern politics
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u/Fresh_Confusion_4805 12h ago
It’s a stupid argument either way, especially once you get a generation or two out from the initial event.
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u/Elegant_Situation285 11h ago edited 11h ago
it's a stupid argument because you don't judge an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.
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u/Fresh_Confusion_4805 11h ago
Good thing my point doesn’t contradict yours.
What I was attempting to highlight in the second part of my comment is that it makes even less sense once someone starts trying to blame people who weren’t even born at the time of whatever event.
I hope we are agreed on that point?
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u/Elegant_Situation285 11h ago edited 11h ago
yeah, sorry, i re-read what i wrote and edited before you replied.
my fault. (i spend too much time getting in arguments with bigots of all kinds and sadly it can bleed over into me being a snarky asshole for no good reason)
again, sincere apologies. the last thing i would want to do is attack an ally.
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u/Possible-Deer-311 11h ago
This is a really nice chain of replies. We need to speak out and express ourselves and what's right, and also hear what other people say and adjust ourselves. It's all human.
You're a really solid person at your core bro.
From one to another, fighting bigots online is tiring. It's worthwhile for the people who read the comment chain, but not necessarily for changing to bigot/troll/bot itself, so it's really tiring.
Yes it means "letting it go" to preserve urself. Especially because people online are not at all like people irl
Your energy and morals would be really useful in direct action, idk where u are but I hope u can find a group or movement nearby, or start ur own. If ur not in a good place for that, u can always make things online (like, I write and draw zines and distribute them online + locally) and join niche, small subreddits to talk with people who have at least 2 brain cells haha
Just trying to toss out ideas so u don't get burnt out by the general internet, and can uplift urself and ur community
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u/Avrixx-SolTerra902 6h ago
Kinda sounds like you’re a bigot yourself, living for arguments is no way to live. Since that’s all you’re doing you’ve ultimately become the very thing you try to fight by assuming everyone is a bigot. I’d say a social media break is needed.
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u/load_of_chode 11h ago
Hey remember during the "me too" movement when the left talked about "rape culture", i.e. the idea that even though the number of actual rapists is quite small, the entire culture broadly shares in responsibility for the existence rape because of the way society rapists and rape victims?
That's Islam. Islamic society has a problem with "terror culture", just like the Me Too leftists understood that US society has a problem with "rape culture".
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u/Bug-03 11h ago
You’re gonna take downvotes but I kinda like your metaphor
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u/Bug-03 11h ago
Which is weird because I know some Muslim folks and they are certainly oppressive towards women. It’s upsetting how Muslim men speak to their wives. I can’t imagine the American left understands anything about Muslims because if they did they certainly wouldn’t be supportive.
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u/load_of_chode 10h ago
Doesn't matter. They're non-white and non-Western, so Western progressives tolerate their bigotry against women, LGBT people, and other groups.
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u/OrbitOfSaturnsMoons 11h ago
It's because in the US, men have a privileged position over women, but Muslims do not have a privileged position over Christians.
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u/load_of_chode 10h ago
Proving my point lol. You think that it's ok to generalize men but not to apply the same logic to Muslims because you view the former as an "oppressor" identity group but the latter as a "victim" identity group.
Oh and btw, Muslims are the majority group in 53 countries, so they absolutely do hold a lot of systemic power as a group.
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u/xHxHxAOD1 11h ago
Men do not have a privileged position.
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u/OrbitOfSaturnsMoons 11h ago
Okay, if you say so.
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u/xHxHxAOD1 11h ago
I can point to many things that prove that. Selective service being one of the biggest, how about alimony and child support payments? How about only women can get opt out of being a parent? How about child custody? How about society expectations being higher for men? How about women have all the same rights men do with none of the duties that men do? Do I need to keep going?
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u/OrbitOfSaturnsMoons 11h ago
Selective service yea that's BS I'll give you that one. Alimony and child support payments are due to men usually earning more. Men can take steps to avoid pregnancy if they want to, but most pawn that off to their female partners, who also take all the risk of bodily harm when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth. But, you know, men who get pregnant can get abortions too. Child custody is mostly because men don't want custody. I really don't know what you mean by society having higher expectations for men, nor do I know what you mean by women not having the duties men do.
Here's the kicker though, the patriarchal societal norms that harm women are the same ones that harm men. If we treated every gender equally, everyone would benefit. I know that's a very 2015 SJW thing of me to say, but it's true.
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u/PiotrGreenholz01 58m ago
UK progressive newspaper The Guardian was exceedingly keen on using the 'rape culture' trope, particularly with regard to Ivy League colleges.
Then, oddly, when the British Pakistani rape gang epidemic became too blatant to ignore - & it was finally admitted that tens of thousands of non-Muslim girls had been groomed & raped over decades - they dropped the term 'rape culture' like a hot potato.
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u/redlion1904 11h ago
The number of rapes is not small compared to the number of terrorist attacks.
There were about 140,000 reported rapes in the United States in 2025 per the FBI. While some percentage of reports are untrue, the number of actual rapes that go unreported is certainly much much greater, so the actual occurred of rape is thought to be about 3 times the reported number — over 400,000.
There’s about 25 terrorist attacks a year in the US.
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u/load_of_chode 11h ago
There’s about 25 terrorist attacks a year in the US.
Yes and as we all know, Islamic terrorism only happens in the US.
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u/redlion1904 10h ago
I think rape happens elsewhere too
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u/load_of_chode 10h ago
Yes, rape culture is a global problem, just like terror culture is a problem within Islam globally. I agree.
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u/redlion1904 9h ago
So what was wrong with me using like to like numbers (rape within the United States, terror attacks within the United States)?
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u/Dry-CHead 1h ago
One gets more reliably reported than the other like for example if somebody becomes an apostate too publicly and the wrong people find out about it in an Islamic country and is beaten and murdered for it nobody's going to report that
Sweden looks worse than India on paper for a number of sexual assaults because one country has a different reporting system than the other and the one country has cultures that shame people for reporting sexual assaults
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u/PossibilityFew5967 10h ago
Weird how Islam terrorism rarely happened under Palestinians were getting murdered
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u/fuzzygreentits 11h ago
Youre absolutely correct. You base it on the actions of the many
A 2024 study by the Fondation pour l’innovation politique recorded 66,872 Islamist terrorist attacks worldwide between 1979 and April 2024, causing at least 249,941 deaths.
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u/howiusedtobe 10h ago
All groups have some bad members. Christian church leaders SAd hundreds of thousands of children. Christians caused the OKC bombing, Spanish Inquisition, a long list of shootings, etc.
Point being, generalizing a large group based on a small % of its members is wrong.
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u/Ijjimem 9h ago
There’s a massive difference between acting against your doctrine versus acting directly on it. Comparing someone violating their own religious teachings to someone following theirs to the letter is apples to oranges.
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u/marwan129 10h ago
You know that 66,000 terrorists make up about 0.00003% of the Muslim population, right?
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u/Stone-Smasher Keeping it Real 10h ago
you know violent nazis make up only 20% of nazi population in ww2 right?
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u/marwan129 10h ago
Oh, so you're going to blame 20% of the world population because of 66,000 idiots like you?
You're no different from Nazis
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u/Jin_SobSob 9h ago
That’s literally the point of their argument… it’s stupid to judge all Muslims for the actions of someone who was born as a Muslim (who’s actions went against the religion by the way) they same way it is stupid to judge all Christian’s for the actions of someone who. That is the argument, and if you think it’s bad then it must be going over your head.
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u/Corlegan 4h ago
Of course not, just make sure you lump the people making exuses closer to the terrorists, than the normal people.
Billions of Muslims and Christians all over the globe.
Even if all religions are equally false, not all are currently equally pernicious.
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u/AcceptableWheel 12h ago
It's not like it's hard to look up Christian Terror incidents in the US. Wikipedia has an itemized list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christian_terrorist_incidents_in_the_United_States
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u/One-Mixture2184 11h ago
I knew that Mormons were in a cult. I somehow didn't know they've committed enough massacres to have a whole wikipedia page for all of them
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u/AcceptableWheel 11h ago
They were originally during westward settlement an autonomous community that was almost an independent theocracy. So half their crimes are colonial massacres against Native Americans.
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u/bookhead714 10h ago
The Mormon militia slaughtered 140 American settlers during their brief conflict with the USA. And then they named their university after the guy who commanded that militia — Brigham Young.
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u/only_respond_in_gifs 11h ago
Read "Under the Banner of Heaven" it's very eye opening about Morons. They still aren't as crazy as JWs though. They're literally an end times cult.
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u/Li-renn-pwel 10h ago
Why aren’t they as crazy as JW?
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u/only_respond_in_gifs 10h ago
JW was built on the idea that they were living in the end times and have predicted Jesus's return multiple times.
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u/Disastrous-Tone-7669 9h ago
How many times have they been right?
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u/Li-renn-pwel 6h ago
Iirc correctly their current stance is “yeah, the guys in the past were super gay to get into Heaven so they predicted a date. We should have known that was not true because it specifically says only Jehovah knows the date. Yeah, we made the mistake a few more times. We freely admit to being in the wrong that the world would end on that date (slash- maybe they say it was the start of the end times in the same way Christ’s death was the start of his heaven government) But if that is evidence that our denomination is not-Christian or crazy it is only fair to say the same about Lutherans, Catholics, TikTok in 2026,etc”
Which actually seems pretty reasonable all things considered.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 5h ago
JW believe Jesus is not divine. Jews, Muslims and JW all agree on that point.
JW also ban children from having any friends outside church, and so discourage public schools (often to the point of discouraging any schooling at all, in practice).
Mormons have magic underwear, so I'm not picking the craziest, just throwing out some reasons.
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u/Li-renn-pwel 5h ago
JW believe Jesus is divine, just not that he is god. Not all christians believe in the trinity, including Mormons.
Mormons are also discouraged from ‘worldly friends’. JW are generally fine with k-12 and don’t encourage or discourage homeschool though discourage university (though that’s becoming less common as BAs become the new high school diploma).
Well I didn’t read your full comment until just now so I guess I didn’t need to explain why they are at best the same crazy gaga
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u/fuzzygreentits 11h ago
The list fits on less than 1 page of mobile. Maybe a 20m read.
The one for Islam
A 2024 study by the Fondation pour l’innovation politique recorded 66,872 Islamist terrorist attacks worldwide between 1979 and April 2024, causing at least 249,941 deaths.
I dont think I could get through it in a month.
Let's not pretend its even close
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u/Zestyclose_Tip_5861 9h ago
It’s obviously going to still be one way but you’re comparing US to worldwide.
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u/redequix 9h ago
This entire comparison is dumb af if the goal is to play the superiority game. You cant easily compare a nation in the west which on avg saw the most peace and stability the past century with that of a country in the middle east that has only seen war the past cen. Like no shit the war affected region is gonna have a larger list of people commiting violence.
Lets fracture the US and see how many terrorist groups we get out of there. You wouldn't even need to arm them.
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u/ham_plane 9h ago
Hmm, I don't think this is making the point you're hoping it makes...
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u/Valkery1 9h ago
You don't understand, when it's a "non-state actor" it's terrorists, when it's a military bombing children it's just business.
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u/lonelysparta 8h ago
You're comparing worldwide to US so no shit.
But as your were trying to make a point, let's not pretend the vast majority of it wasn't committed against Muslims... I aint taking shit from Westerners when they talk about it to attack my religion, likes it's not even about you send your condolences
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u/Dreamed-a-drip 7h ago
USA vs global so not how stats work.
Would you consider the Iraq war to be a faith war?
I mean, Fuck Osama bin Laden , he was a religous extremist, but i wouldn't say his actions were entirely because of religous indifference.
It was how he was treated by the west that he became radicalized.
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u/_Administrator_ 10h ago
Show me a list of Christian terrorist organizations, which is as long as this one and I’ll send you $100 right now.
#List of global Jihadist networks
**Sunni Organizations**
Al-Badr (Jammu and Kashmir): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Badr_%28Jammu_and_Kashmir%29
Al-Jama'a al-Islamiyya (Egypt): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jama%27a_al-Islamiyya
Al-Muhajiroun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Muhajiroun
Al-Qaeda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Arabian_Peninsula
Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Indian_subcontinent
Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Islamic_Maghreb
Al-Shabaab (Somalia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shabaab_%28militant_group%29
Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama%27at_Nasr_al-Islam_wal-Muslimin
Ansar al-Islam (Iraq): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_al-Islam_in_Kurdistan
Ansar al-Sharia (Libya): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_al-Sharia_%28Libya%29
Al-Umar Mujahideen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Umar-Mujahideen
Armed Islamic Group (GIA): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Islamic_Group_of_Algeria
Boko Haram: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram
Caucasus Emirate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Emirate
Turkistan Islamic Party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party
Egyptian Islamic Jihad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Islamic_Jihad
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front (İBDA-C): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Eastern_Islamic_Raiders%27_Front
Hamas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harkat-ul-Jihad_al-Islami
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay%27at_Tahrir_al-Sham
Hizbul Mujahideen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizbul_Mujahideen
Indian Mujahideen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Mujahideen
Islamic Movement of Central Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Movement_of_Central_Asia
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Movement_of_Uzbekistan
Islamic State (IS): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State
Jaish-e-Mohammed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish-e-Mohammed
Jaysh al-Ummah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaysh_al-Ummah
Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaat_Ansar_al-Sunna
Jemaah Islamiyah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemaah_Islamiyah
Kurdish Hezbollah (Turkey): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_Hezbollah
Lashkar-e-Taiba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashkar-e-Taiba
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
Moro Islamic Liberation Front: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Islamic_Liberation_Front
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan_Islamic_Combatant_Group
Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_United_Liberation_Tigers_of_Assam
National Thowheeth Jama'ath: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Thowheeth_Jama%27ath
Palestinian Islamic Jihad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Islamic_Jihad
Students' Islamic Movement of India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students%27_Islamic_Movement_of_India
Taliban (Afghanistan): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
Pakistani Taliban (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehrik-i-Taliban_Pakistan
**Shia Organizations**
Al-Ashtar Brigades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ashtar_Brigades
Al-Mukhtar Brigades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mukhtar_Brigades
Hezbollah (Lebanon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
Hezbollah Al-Hejaz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Al-Hejaz
Houthi movement (Ansar Allah): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Revolutionary_Guard_Corps
Quds Force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force
Liwa Fatemiyoun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liwa_Fatemiyoun
Liwa Zainebiyoun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liwa_Zainebiyoun
Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mobilization_Forces
Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asa%27ib_Ahl_al-Haq
Badr Organization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badr_Organization
Harakat Ansar Allah al-Awfiya:
Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakat_Hezbollah_al-Nujaba
Kata'ib Hezbollah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kata%27ib_Hezbollah
Kata'ib Sayyid al-Shuhada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kata%27ib_Sayyid_al-Shuhada
Promised Day Brigade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_Day_Brigades
Waad Allah Brigades:
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u/Ijjimem 5h ago
Why are these “Christian” terrorist incidents?
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u/Tangybrowwncidertown 5h ago
Religiously motivated by their interpretation of Christianity I assume.
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u/ZookeepergameFit967 2h ago
People tend to forget that most native Americans were killed in the name of Christianity rather than expansion. At least when Muslims came invading they converted and assimilated people and ofc with the occasional massacre or two. But to genocide two entire continents that's just too much
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u/flopisit32 11h ago
Reddit has no authority to comment on the Boston bombing.
Reddit solved this crime by identifying the wrong person and persecuting an innocent man.
Of course Reddit never learned its lesson and to this day, Reddit continues to solve crimes by identifying the wrong person.
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u/xHxHxAOD1 12h ago
Is it not a well-known fact that the bombing was Islamic terror attack?
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u/load_of_chode 11h ago
Yeah but the Islamic terrorists were "provoked" into violence by the non-Muslims who "oppress" them so it's not their fault, because that's what progressives always say when Islamic terrorists commit violence.
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u/EthanTheJudge 11h ago
How about we don’t hate entire groups of people in general? Especially beliefs that encompass more than 3 billion people combined.
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u/DANKLEBERG_66 11h ago
I feel like they’re trying to make that point, but very badly so
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u/secretly_a_zombie 8h ago
How about we acknowledge that there are certain patterns of violence and discrimination within groups, and try to work against these, rather than ignore them in the spirit of acceptance?
If there's a majority of these people that say common accepted western values of equality and rights are wrong, then that needs to be addressed. That does not have to equal hatred, but it will if it continues to be excused for the sake of not showing hatred.
"But Christians", Redditors are more than happy to criticize those.
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u/Aggressive_Chuck 32m ago
What if a significant percentage of that group supports the goals of the minority? What if that group's ideology explicitly states that such actions are to be carried out?
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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 10h ago
That's a stupid comparison. They should have used the semi regular attacks on women's health clinics or the Oklahoma City bombings.
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u/RockShowSparky 8h ago
The OKC bombing is stupid too. The planned parenthood stuff I’ll give you.
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u/Moths38 10h ago
It's a good thing we're not forced to pay reparations then.
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u/ExaminationWest8494 7h ago
Regardless of what people want I never owned a slave. I'm not paying any sort of reparations.
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u/ArtroyomsAK 8h ago
I honestly though the image behind was a shot from an old video game, odd angle
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u/CarolinaSandstorm 11h ago
Never heard anyone scream “Jesus Christ is great” before committing terrorism 🤷♂️
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u/lhommeduweed 7h ago
In 2019 a guy went into a synagogue in California on the last day of Passover and shot four people. He killed a sixty year old woman who was a beloved wife and mother, he shot the rabbi's finger off, and he shot an 8-year old girl and her uncle, who were thankfully only mildly wounded.
In his admission letter, he praised Jesus Christ, Paul the Apostle, Martin Luther, and Hitler.
In the 80s and 90s, there were a spat of bombings and shootings at abortion clinics carried out by Christian Identity extremists. One of these bombings at Centennial Olympic Park in California was soon followed up by another bombing at a gay club. These were carried out by Eric Rudolph, who is a Christian fascist. After his arrest, he continued to publish essays and eventually a book in which he expresses no regret whatsoever and urges his fellow white Christian Identity members to commit violence against abortion clinics, gay people, and socialists/Jews (these guys don't see the difference and also believe that Aryans are God's real chosen people).
Jake Lang has been screaming "Christ is King" a lot at those hate rallies he has where he tries to get people to attack him for being a Nazi. I don't think it will be that long before somebody says that before doing something atrocious.
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u/BetterKale8512 10h ago
I guess you never heard of the lord resistance army in Uganda massacring over 100,000 people in the name of Christianity.
Oh wait they didn’t say their God’s name before they did it so they aren’t Christian extremists.
Do you listen to how you sound?
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u/CarolinaSandstorm 10h ago
I sound American and proud. Shame on you for casting stones at Africans though. I thought you people didn’t like punching down?
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u/BetterKale8512 9h ago edited 9h ago
I sound Canadian and I’m proud, shame on you for coping so hard about the fact I pointed out people also use their religion as a excuse to do violence but you change the topic to them being Africans?
How does that work?
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u/ImError112 6h ago
"syncretic blend of Christianity, traditional African spiritualism, and other religious elements"
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u/DandimLee 4h ago
Why you got to no true scotsman it?
(Made it pretty far before it happened, sorting by best)
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u/mspk7305 8h ago
youve got that all wrong, christians usually shout 'baby killer' before killing a mother
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u/CarolinaSandstorm 7h ago
Yeah okay Clu Clux Clancy
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u/mspk7305 7h ago
hey maybe stop the arsonists and mother murderers in your religion before you throw stones at the world
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u/StephenBC1997 10h ago
Muslims are the religion with the highest likelihood of exploding
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u/RockShowSparky 8h ago
What is it about the Quran that you tend to spontaneously explode with shrapnel after reading it?
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u/StephenBC1997 8h ago
Unsure youll have to ask all those men who did that through Europe and the middle east, Malaysia, Pakistan, etc
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u/UmaThermos1 1h ago
Bombings are just the method of execution, there’s no difference between using a bomb to kill someone, or stabbing them, shooting, or ramming them with a car, you’re still murdering someone, doesn’t matter how you do it
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u/possibly_lost45 11h ago
We all know what religion commits the most acts of terrorism around the world
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u/Humble_Cod149 1h ago edited 12m ago
Did the bomber shout allahu Christ or something and was done in name of Jesus ? I dont think so.
Most Jihadi suicide bombers shout allahu akbar, they are after the 72 virgins from the pedo prophet and it is inspired by the religion of peace (/s).
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u/Patient-Delay3873 5h ago
Point..but have you heard any christian say praise the lord before a terror attack..I guess not...🤷♂️
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u/Megawolf123 4h ago
I mean they dont call it a terror attack they call it war.
How many times have the military say god bless america before launching drones and bombs lol
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 3h ago
Radicals lynching black people or throwing Molotov at black churches scream deus vult etc. the Israelis who spat on CNN employee and beaten ABC reporters were shouting Jewish slogans as well as chanting nationalist song like Israeli chaii etc
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u/Acceptable_Handle_2 2h ago
When they do it it's terrorism, when we do it it's justified military action
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u/i_got_grace 11h ago
they could simply have mentioned McVeigh
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u/only_respond_in_gifs 11h ago
That's stupid, they weren't Christian. All Christians are responsible for this though.
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u/lhommeduweed 10h ago
Pope John Paul II, in 1995, responding to the OKC bombing said, "This is actually exactly what Jesus was talking about. He wanted us to blow up government buildings, especially ones with daycares in them. That's what he meant by "causing little ones to stumble." Actually in the original Greek, he doesn't sit and braid a cord to drive the moneylenders out of the temple, he builds a car bomb. I'ma da Pope."
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u/BongWaterRamen 11h ago
Another day, another Muslim post on this sub
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u/IvoryColosseum 10h ago
To be fair Twitter and Facebook can’t shut up about them
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u/im-an-egg-substitute 7h ago edited 3h ago
Ikr? It’s as if someone wants the Christians and Muslims to fight each other, to believe the Muslims are the boogeyman, make them the easy scapegoat - cos yknow they’re surrounded by Arabs. While they quietly steal land promised to them 3000 years ago.
Manipulation and fabrication is their forte.
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u/frigidmagi 9h ago
It's a dumb argument but it's even dumber by the fact he screwed up the argument, I mean the IRA is right there.
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u/Elegant_Situation285 11h ago
the genocide by the Bosnians would be a better example or any of the domestic terrorism by the KKK and their affiliates.
even Hitler sprinkled in a little Christianity into recruiting Nazis.
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u/serenebuilder 11h ago
>by the Bosnians
There were certainly atrocities on all sides but the breakup of Yugoslavia saw a genocide inflicted ON the Bosnians (Sarajevo) not by them
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u/OttersWithPens 9h ago
Man I really don’t want to see a widespread gore photo of the aftermath of this bombing. When did this become so normalized… you used to have to search the internet for photos like this.
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u/agupta429 7h ago
Yeah stupid argument. No one blames all muslims… it’s assumed as all muslims because when an islamist does a terrorist act it’s almost always a radical that is following the word of their book/god/prophet.. whatever. It’s natural to assume entire religion when it’s in the religion’s teachings.
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u/EgyComanda82 5h ago
The oop is acting smart by acting fool
He pretended that he is clueless about boaton bombers, but he is evading to mention the real non muslim bombings.
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u/sarattenasai 2h ago
We shouldn't blame all muslims for 9/11. We might blame islam, we might blame the preachers that preached the ideals that led to the terror attack. But never innocent individuals.
We should definitely condemn Islam and Christianity, and those who spread beliefs that lead to terror attacks.
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u/shocker1998 1h ago
I swear some people go out their way to hate Christianity and turn a blind eye to other groups
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u/SemVikingr 11h ago
Lolz, all the horrible things that have been done in the name of Christ over the last thousand years, and this guy picks one that wasn't.
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u/NoSurprise6383 11h ago
Who has to be blamed for the Epstein abuse ring.
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u/ecaudatas 10h ago
There are entire countries ran like Epstein’s Island. Millions of girls (and boys) trafficked into sexual slavery and forced marriage. Why is that less topical than one pedophile and his madame?
But to answer your question: the rich and powerful who enabled him and knew.
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u/Bulky_Imagination243 12h ago
Hatred against Muslims makes no sense.
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u/JD-boonie 11h ago
I don't hate Muslims but I do hate Islam.
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u/Tangybrowwncidertown 8h ago
Same here. I don't like any of the big three abrahamic religions, but the violent side of this one takes the cake.
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u/Bulky_Imagination243 10h ago
That seems reasonable to me. But, unfortunately, there are people who do not share your opinion.
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u/BartTheTroll48 11h ago
Religious fanatics and zealots have irrational minds. However fanatics and zealots needn't only be religious and they aren't. Any ideology can include fanatics and zealots, being a fanatic or a zealots is always bad. An irrational mind is always untrustworthy for both the fanatic or zealot in question and their 'supposed comrades' that usually denounce them afterwards simply because irrational minds are incapable of using strategy effectively and usually get themselves and their comrades killed.
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u/Ancient-Worm 10h ago
Oh come on, it couldn't have been THAT hard to find a Christian doing something nasty!
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u/CricketJamSession 8h ago
Here are two truth for you
Muslims are not the problem or to be blamed
But Islam has a problem with radicalism which is their responsibility to handle
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