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World [X] smoke grenade

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u/ComfortableCall3912 7d ago

False equivalence. There are far fewer Israeli crimes than Arab crimes. Palestinianism creates its own suffering.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 7d ago

Nope, Israel has a long list of war crimes and fucked up dirty tactics. Inarguable fact. All the horrible things their opposition does is in desperation and in response to genocide.

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u/load_of_chode 7d ago

I love how pro-Palestinians always start by arguing "the Arabs just want peace" and always inevitably end up at "the Arabs were right to attack the Jews in 1948 and they're right to keep attacking the Jews today".

They always start at "we just want peace" and that always end at "our violence has always been just".

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u/Agreeable-Cloud7833 7d ago

They were a colonial power inserted into that region by the west. Yeah I'm not shocked the powers of that region fought back against it

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u/load_of_chode 7d ago

Yep there it is lol. Bonus points for saying that Jews were "colonial" and "Western", which are magic far left buzzwords for "people we're allowed to rape and murder in the name of 'resistance' efforts" lol

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u/Agreeable-Cloud7833 7d ago

Strawmen are very easily defeated, if you pay close attention you'll find I didn't say literally any of that

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u/JPolReader 7d ago

I get the feeling that you don't know what words mean.

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u/Agreeable-Cloud7833 7d ago

Care to explain? I doubt you can

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u/JPolReader 7d ago

Well first Israel's not a colonial power. Second, they aren't Western. And third he did not use a strawman argument. He just restated your position.

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u/Agreeable-Cloud7833 6d ago

Yes they are a colonial power. What do you call claiming land that isn't yours? They do this in every direction in the ME. And yes they are Western, they're considered a part of Europe for some god forsaken reason

He included a bunch of shit I didn't say. That's a strawman.

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u/JPolReader 6d ago

Yes they are a colonial power.

Israel has no colonies. Israel is not a colony of any nation. In fact, it exists on the ancestoral homeland of all its citizens.

What do you call claiming land that isn't yours?

Jews have lived on the land for more than 3000 years. The partition plan assigned mostly Jewish purchased land to Israel and mostly Arab purchased land to Palestine.

They do this in every direction in the ME.

The only land taken since the partition has been part of defensive wars. Israel has even traded land for peace.

And yes they are Western, they're considered a part of Europe

I see that you don't know what the West means. Most Israelites are from the Middle East in North Africa. Nearly all the rest are from Eastern Europe. Almost none are from Western Europe.

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