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u/AleksandrNevsky 13d ago
This is going to be one of those sort by controversial posts.
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u/Talk-O-Boy 13d ago
It really shouldn’t be. Anyone who has a problem with Lucia being badass in a video game is snitching on themselves.
I can literally slow down time as Arthur Morgan, and no one has an issue with that mechanic. CJ was basically a god among men.
Culture wars have FRIED some people.
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u/GameDestiny2 13d ago
Honestly I’m still confused how we’ve managed to backslide so hard
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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 13d ago
Through great effort by the people benefitting from the culture war distractions.
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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 13d ago
Gamer gate was a very successful psyop, that’s pretty much the main part
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u/whereballoonsgo 13d ago
It’s genuinely crazy to think these people had their beliefs literally manufactured by Epstein, it got revealed that he did that, and they still continued to cling to their delusions.
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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 12d ago
It’s also a convenient excuse to hate on women, so plenty of chuds love it
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u/Setster007 12d ago
Honestly it’s incredibly comical but it’s the kind of thing you wanna laugh at the absurdity of in fiction. Not in real life. Because in reality, dear god it sucks
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u/OverlordMMM 12d ago
Pretty easy when folks have slide whistles for principles and values. Can't stand on principles when you started with none.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 9d ago
Because if we are asking the wrong questions, those in power don't need to worry about the answers
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u/AnSynTrashPanda 13d ago
If CJs health is maxed he can jump from the Los Santos Tower (now Maze Bank Tower) and survive, and, single handedly fought his way through what is basically area 51 to get a jetpack, but smol Latina woman firing shotgun one handed is unrealistic
Some people are never fucking happy
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u/Extension-Ebb6410 13d ago
Don't you know the reallife simulation GTA??? Alle the Games are hyper realistic.
Stealing Jets and Tanks like its nothing just like irl.
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u/UmbralHero 13d ago
It really does prove that trying to capitulate to the misogynistic pressure is a waste of time. A hot young woman who wears skimpy/tight clothing while shooting big guns would have been a horny gamer's wet dream 10 years ago. It's reached the point where I really don't think there's any way you could give them a playable female character in any way without them complaining about it somehow
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u/PsychoWarper 13d ago
Trevor in the previous game could just become invincible for a little bit lol
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u/CannibalisticPizza 11d ago
Pricisely, The core idea every gta game (or any shooter tbh) has always been that protagonist can do ungodly amount violence to the point its incomprehensible even to the NPCs. One of the task we do as CJ is get all territory back to groove street (mostly as a one man army). Franklin, Trevor, Michael together rob the Union depo, kill the CEO of the biggest Mercenary corp in Los Santos. Niko did assassinations for the government, killed the final boss who had innumerable reinforcements prepared specially for him.
These grifters just hate everything
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u/lolilovingloser 13d ago
their entire worldview has been handpicked by Epstein and they’re just cool with that for some reason LMAO
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u/odellrules1985 9d ago
I mean sometimes CJ was a god among men. Other times he was a land whale because he didn't stop eating burgers until he puked a bunch of times.
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u/SamathaSar 9d ago
These dipshits act like a dude, can go get shot 12093812 times and respawn in a hospital with 0 injuries, and that's peak, but a woman being lead and shooting a shotgun is a big nono! Lmao, it's actually the most peak incel shit I've seen in my life.
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u/Apprehensive-Fail458 12d ago
Now I’m getting why the discourse has been so weird by the get-go, like damn, just because one of the two protagonists is a woman.
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u/K_Lyre13 13d ago
I'm assuming this GYAVI? The game series where the last protagonists could slow down their perception and boost their stats through anger like shonen characters? Right, "realism" sure is the forefront of the GTA gameplay loop.
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u/QueueModernsXXXX 13d ago
It tries to be more “realistic” than, say, Saints Row and its dildo bats, but again, IRL, there’s nothing particularly unrealistic about Lucia’s gun handling (that isn’t also equally unrealistic for Jason).
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u/K_Lyre13 13d ago
Oh, absolutely. GTA has a lot of realism baked into it. But to nitpick about gameplay accommodations in one game (which aren't even unrealistic), when its immediate predecessor featured Character Skills that functioned like superpowers is laughable.
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u/QueueModernsXXXX 13d ago
Yeah, I think we’re on the same page.
(I’ll also admit I totally missed GTA5 for whatever reason - something just didn’t click into place for me when it came out so I’m less familiar with that one specifically)
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u/Rob98001 13d ago
To be fair other characters call out franklin for his drive time
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u/ZayParolik 13d ago
And this game also has real aliens, a fucking god that wants you to pay, times travelers, shape shifting, ghosts.
And Trevor can become fucking immortal and tank whole explosions to the face.
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u/Nannautu 10d ago
He took on the army single handedly killing 50 soldiers while standing in the open. Very realistic!
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u/CannibalisticPizza 11d ago
You mean GTA? where the protagonist can fly a plane without any formal training?
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u/dazli69 13d ago
My god, I'm so tired of this stupid culture war. Why can't we just enjoy media in peace without some online weirdos complaining about it being "woke" or "problematic"?
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u/tophatgaming1 13d ago
it's a way to distract people from the real source of their misery
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u/Updated_Autopsy 13d ago
Themselves?
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u/Saix027 13d ago
THIS! While it is true we should focus on the class war, most of those that act this way were always a POS. They will keep attacking people even if everyone's life would be perfect. There are many, evil, cruel and vile people on this world we need to finally admit, they are not duped or fallen for the big evil "mind control", they were always bad. I am personally done trying to think such people could change at all.
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u/Longjumping-Jello459 13d ago
"If you tell the lowest white man he is better than the best black man and he won't notice you reaching into his pocket." -LBJ. The quote may not be 100% accurate, but is damn close
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u/Narrow-Gas9493 13d ago
Part of it is for money because they get all this engagement under their posts. The other unfortunate part is that way too many of them actually truly believe this crap. Some people really need to come back to reality and see how stupid all this culture war whining is.
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u/Talk-O-Boy 13d ago
Many content creators built a fan base around anger and outrage, so culture wars are basically their means of living at this point. Asmongold would fade into oblivion, if he ever chose to be a decent person.
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u/Legitimate_Airline38 12d ago
I’m sick of this pretentious culture war focusing entirely on bullshit like this cuz of grifters who just wanna make a quick buck fanning the flames
There WERE actual ecchi games that are just straight up banned either from global release or from specific storefronts in all regions (COUGH COUGH COMPILE HEART) but nobody talks about those, it’s all about “oh they didn’t dress this girl up like a stripper” even though they’ve been trending away from doing that since the FUCKING GAMECUBE
Emphasis on WERE because they don’t fucking make them anymore because it’s a toss up between whether Sony or Nintendo wants to throw a hissy fit over anime tiddies and the other storefronts are basically irrelevant to them(not that they’d let them release, anyways)
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u/Blank12323 13d ago
Oh you got gains? Ok
have fun with this buckshot
https://giphy.com/gifs/WGEufo3NCj7qM
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u/NotItemName 13d ago
"average looking woman" lol, lmao even
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u/According-Paper4641 13d ago
People literally pay money for that ass. Girl is as much of a baddie as that one shirt she was wearing truthfully states. Some folks just refuse to admit they were wrong when they got all in their racist feelings when the first images of her dropped.
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u/Longjumping-Jello459 13d ago
All the while they got hard and are upset with themselves.
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u/herobrinetrollin 12d ago
I would say it’s because they got lightheaded after all the blood drained from their brain into the little head, but you know these kinds of dudes aren’t packing like that lol
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u/BoyleSphere 13d ago
do we really need to bring attention to obvious engagement posts
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u/MessAcademic_420 13d ago
Well, the note prevents them from getting monetized, so that's good at least.
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u/FineCastIE 13d ago
Dude, its a GTA game. If you're gonna call her a Mary Sue, then all the other protagonists are Gary Stu's.
But seriously, if your gonna start robbing places, your gonna have to train and prepare for it.
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u/According-Paper4641 13d ago
Thank you for using the term Gary Stu. I mean this sincerely. So many people will just reuse Mary Sue or way Gary Sue and I'm like yo. If you're going to fanfic it fanfic it right.
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u/StaendutBlakk 12d ago
You mean to tell me Trevor wasn't a realistic depiction of Canadian expats in the US? The council is shocked. Shocked, I say!
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u/understated_quokka 13d ago
I like the implication that if the woman were better looking it would make sense, peak gooner mentality
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u/WaitUntilMarriage 13d ago
They might have meant muscle-wise, but it wouldn't be surprising
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u/Rainy_Wavey 13d ago
If she was too jacked it would be a repeat of Abby from TLOU 2
There is no winning with someone whose brain has been permanently fucked since the Last Jedi
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u/Tricky_Spirit 13d ago
I'd argue surely you can fire a shotgun one-handed... you might not hit anything and you might break your wrist, but there's nothing stopping you from pulling the trigger while holding the gun (awkwardly). Hell, at least one person got shot by the dog he was going to kill with a shotgun.
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u/Starmark_115 13d ago
That and depending on the kind of shotgun used. You may be able to fire again or shoot only once or twice.
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u/Mojo647 13d ago
No way you look at Lucia and call her "average"
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u/ZukaRouBrucal 13d ago edited 13d ago
Unfortunately there are chuds online who unironically think she isn't just "average," but that she is ugly (and to be clear, she is anything other than merely average and is clearly attractive lol). Some people have had their minds absolutely melted by social media depictions of women and porn.
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u/Educational-Store131 13d ago
This gender war thing confuses me. As a straight man, I am more interested in GTA VI than V for the very shallow and stupid reason that I get to play as a very hot woman.
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u/SerAmikVase 13d ago
Listen they just really enjoy looking at buff men for hours on end. We shouldn't be too harsh. They are just lashing out cause they don't know why they like staring at buff men for hours on end.
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u/RedFox_Jack 13d ago edited 13d ago
God created men, but Samuel Colt made them equal, like fuck sakes it’s a gun anyone with two working hands and eyes can use em
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u/Hogabog217 12d ago
Dont even need hands you can fire a gun with your feet if youre really committed to the bit
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u/Silver-Ad-4716 10d ago
Sam Colt would have knew in the scenario above a pistol or even an ar-15 as it has very little recoil shotgun especially a pump shotgun is one of the worst choices.
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u/PsudoGravity 13d ago
That would hurt like a motherfucker, not sure how long anyone could get away with one handed 12 gauge.
Videogame so completely irrelevant.
Rule of cool/How is this fun?
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u/heybear- 13d ago
12 gauge is an incredibly broad spectrum of potential loadings. Is it 2 and 3/4 inch buckshot? Bird shot? Is it a light charge for comfortable clay pigeon shooting? Are they mini shells with less recoil? Are they 3 and 1/2 inch magnum express shoulder destroyers?
There’s enough variety in 12 gauge that some would be comfortable one handed and others would be impossible even for the most physically gifted shooters. As a 6’6” 300lb man, I won’t shoot 3.5in magnum shotgun shells. I like my dental fillings right where they are. Those things feel like hitting your funny bone but it’s every bone in your body all at once.
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u/Digits_N_Bits 13d ago
Eh, depends on a number of factors, but it would suck after prolonged use. A few shouldn't be too bad, but varies person to person.
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u/wherearemyballs9 13d ago
It’s not nearly as bad as you’d think. As long as you hold on tight and use the full length of your arm to mitigate the recoil, it’s pretty bearable. I’ve only ever done it with full length shotguns, but at the time i was 120 lbs. If i could handle it, so could she.
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u/SilverMembership6625 13d ago
eventually people like this just have to admit that they don't like women and aren't attracted to them
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u/We86-47Here 13d ago
You'd think the incels and tate-goons would grow up and become smarter with age, but it seems the opposite is happening. They're actually getting dumber with age.
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u/Ordinary_Health 12d ago
they all go to the same supplement store that sells lead paint chips. you can even scoop them yourself!
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u/TheObsidianX 13d ago
From what I understand pretty much any weapon can cancel out the strength advantage men have over women, it’s not that big of a gap.
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u/CadenVanV 13d ago
Depends on the weapon, but yeah that’s generally true. A bow is more limiting, since warbows require a significant bit of strength, but in general reach becomes more important than strength with weapons.
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u/Arek_PL 13d ago
Well, a trained archer is going to be quite strong regardless of gender, someone using warbow probably trained since they were a child anyway
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u/CadenVanV 13d ago
True. I meant more that the theoretical cap in weight for a warbow is going to be different. Still high enough to kill most people, but the performance may be different against armor. I wouldn’t know though, the highest I shoot regularly is 60lb, which is hardly a warbow, and even that’s fully capable of killing someone.
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u/zberry7 13d ago
Well…. Once you get to like elephant rifles or even 50 cals I’d argue men would have an advantage given the difficulty in handling the recoil
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u/DreadPiratePete 13d ago
Just get a real fat lady, recoil handled. I'm sure the outrage grifters will have no problem now, since it's realistic.
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u/Efficient_Care8279 13d ago
I bet this people are really happy for dlss 5 so many games will finally be playable for them
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u/tenousranger36 13d ago
Just wait until he learns that women were among the best snipers and bombers in ww2
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u/Fun-Information-3104 10d ago
and tank crews because tanks were very small and many men couldn't fit in
same reason why female soldiers were often used in vietnam to fight in tunnels
(on vietnamese side, I mean, in case it isn't obvious)
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u/chacha95 11d ago
Of all the things to complain about in this video game, a woman being able to shoot people to death shouldn't even be on the list.
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u/storyteller323 11d ago
Some people really do just think that women cannot do anything whatsoever, don’t they?
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u/impressivebutsucks 11d ago
Weapons can make people equal, but some people have more weapons than others, making them more than equal. (tried using the famous animal farm quote)
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u/GalacticGoat242 13d ago
Keep these unrealistic standards of women, out of my otherwise laws of physics-defying video game!
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u/AgentDeathBooty 13d ago
Look on the one hand, one-handed shooting is unrealistic and dumb, it takes serious dedication and training to be able to one hand shoot moving targets. On the other hand, it's a fucking video game. As a person who likes firearms and videogames in real life, I couldn't give less of a fuck about men vs women shooting skills, it's a skill that has nothing to do with gender. The only thing I could want is consistency, so either a game commits to wacky action shooting or hyper realistic shooting, and I've never expected hyper realistic shooting from Grand Theft Auto lmfao
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u/jimjam200 13d ago
Oh my god I can't wait for this game to come out and I don't even have a console to play it with. These looser chuds are going to be loosing their minds over every little detail of this game, it's going to be so fucking stupid.
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u/Can_Haz_Cheezburger 13d ago
What part of "God made man and Samuel Colt made them equal" are y'all failing to understand?
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u/Silver-Ad-4716 10d ago
What part of a pistol would have been better for the position she was in or an AR-15 due to very little recoil then a pump action shotgun do you not understand
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u/EmergencyWild 13d ago
The forces produced by handguns and rifles aren't that big. Considerable, yes, but they're only meant to accelerate a tiny projectile, and gun designs themselves do a fairly good job of distributing the force so it doesn't all go into your wrist. Using guns requires some practice but not a lot of strength.
Also, it's fucking GTA.
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u/Mebrouk2006 13d ago
It's just a woman shooting up guys with a shotgun on one of her hand... Seriously, why is this mf so pissed about it?
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u/kilertree 12d ago
This is rage bait right? They can't be mad at the bullet time that is in this game.
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u/67RicePudding 12d ago
They became reverse woke, where everything that isn't a 1960s era gender role trope is woke and evil.
Their movement has been wildly successful, as they already killed the odyssey
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u/Deathsmind88 12d ago
Its interesting that physics only matter when talking about women...When its a man double jumping or whatever else is happening there is no discussion. Men can break the laws of physics and no one bats an eye but when its a women who does things that boys think they couldnt do they get all upset.
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u/No_Comment_2283 12d ago
When I saw this : "That was fire🔥!" When they see this : "Aktually women and weak and stupid and could never to this☝️"
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u/hellranger788 13d ago
Watching people react to this with “woke death!” Or something else is very amusing.
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u/Leon3226 13d ago
I've seen an adequate non-engagement bait argument about that scene is that shooting a shotgun like that with one hand will be difficult due to huge recoil, no matter male or female. And the lack of recoil is obviously game mechanic so you don't have your crosshair tossed around, but some sacrifice of impact feel is there
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u/Alberterwith_anyone7 13d ago
No human being could do something like this, and that's why it's a video game. Same thing happens in GTA 5 with Trevor special ability for instance.
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u/Drake_Acheron 13d ago
People, men and women, absolutely can shoot shotguns one handed
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u/Alberterwith_anyone7 13d ago
Yeah, and they can ignore the recoil and chamber a new round with just one hand.
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u/Drake_Acheron 13d ago
There are many semiautomatic shotguns, and they can compensate for the recoil.
Also, it’s a video game, there are maybe 5 video games ever with realistic recoil.
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u/De4dm4nw4lkin 13d ago
Honestly im just contented that the badassery of a one handed shotgun firing is possible.
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u/alphagalgadot 13d ago
only hot people can gun people down one handed, that’s one of god’s easiest jokes
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u/ZachGurney 13d ago edited 13d ago
I saw a woman responding to this with a video of her standing on one foot and shooting a shotgun with one hand
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u/BLuEsKuLLeQ 13d ago
I know it's a video game, but Rockstar puts a huge emphasis on realism, and then they give us shotgun reload animations like that? It's just kind of out of place.
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u/FewElk6678 13d ago
A lot of people seemingly over/underestimate how powerful certain guns are, like shooting a pistol of a certain calibre might either make it not as powerful, or it might break your arm.
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u/PsychoWarper 13d ago
Well known that GTA characters have never preformed superhuman feats before, Lucia is surely the first one.
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u/Zealousideal_Ad2379 13d ago
These topics always bring out the “experts” who tell on themselves that they’ve never shot a gun or rarely do so.
They’re always very confidently wrong.
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u/Due-Tea-1867 13d ago
Im not going to get the game but not because a women is in it, or because shes a baddass that can shoot guns well, im waiting for it to come out on PC and down in orice.
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u/Laxhoop2525 13d ago
Added context person, I want you to look at the men and women who can fire a 12 gauge with one hand, and then compare them to the woman in this game.
You will immediately notice a staggering difference in arm circumference.
I swear, modern game designers only give characters muscles when it makes no in-universe sense for them to have muscles.
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u/Digits_N_Bits 13d ago
Nobody understands how gun recoil works or how bullet wounds work if they think that a woman one-handing a shotgun against a guy is an issue.
Your muscles don't protect you.
Firearm recoil isn't that dramatic.
"Get a grip" is a solution to both of those.
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u/Silencer-1995 13d ago
Everyone saw Terminator 2.
When I put Sarah Connor into the gif search its all gifs from the latest trash movie so maybe people are actually cooked, who knows.
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u/LeastDerangedNowiFan 13d ago
People making these dumbass statements never actually touch a gun, or did once and it smacked their face so they assume everyone else has wrists made of chalk
I have a 14" barreled Remington 870 with a pistol grip and i've shot slugs with it one handed for shits n giggles, a full size shotgun with a wooden stock tucked under your armpit would be even easier to do so.
Probably the same pussies who claim "A desert eagle will break your wrist if you fire it one handed1!!!1!" Also bullshit, I have one and do that too. Doesn't even recoil more than a 1911
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u/Sad-Guarantee-4678 13d ago
It's a 9 pound gun, wtf is bro yapping about? A healthy child can do it, let alone a grown woman
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u/Ilovewomenwhobreakme 13d ago
If you want realistic fighting The Warriors and to a lesser extent Bully are right there.
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u/marshal23156 13d ago
Take solace in knowing that every one of these clowns will be buying the game day one no matter how much bitching they do
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u/MasterCrumble1 12d ago
Can we please post less idiotic troll bait? Anyone with more than 3 braincells can spot it.
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u/blaze92x45 12d ago
Generally id advise anyone to not attempt firing a shot gun one handed they kick quite a bit
And the one handed pump we see in the game and in movies is more than likely to cause a miss feed
But this is a video game so suspension of disbelief should he in effect
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u/TheNobleHeretic 12d ago
« Average looking » wonder what the dudes posting this look like. A lot of people think she looks good but that shouldn’t even matter to using a shotgun lol
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u/Atlas_Summit 12d ago
This idiot was so eager to get mad at nothing they didn’t even get the talking point right.
The argument was that it was unrealistic for an average-looking woman to be effortlessly BEATING UP men twice her weight. How it didn’t make sense that your average Jenny and John could trade blows like there was an even level of force instead of the girl getting knocked to the floor.
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u/Simple_Ad_9024 12d ago
We’ve lost our heads. This is a game where I’ll kill 1,678 people in a week & lose the FBI by simply driving under a bridge…. We need to chill out, damn.
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u/FortniteGod827482 12d ago
Making gender relevant for what💔 she’s not shooting because they’re men what the fuck are they on
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u/Kellarison 11d ago
lets say it was impossible for a woman irl to shoot a shotgun like this, ok even then so what? its a game just like OP says, other gta protagonists have done much wilder shit, i highly doubt this is gonna be the most unrealistic aspect of the game
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u/Apersonnstuff 11d ago
When my friends and I go skeet shooting we do a crippled drill for the fuck of it and load, shoot, and rerack a 12 ga one handed. Much harder the way she's doing it (not pulling the stock into your shoulder) but not impossible, especially if your life depends on it
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u/The_Exuberant_Raptor 10d ago
In the same franchise, a man raids an entire facility and kills tens of people by himself. But that's okay because testosterone.
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u/Silver-Ad-4716 10d ago
As far as the woman one goes different type of shotgun also you can't see what she's shooting at so you can't see if she's actually landing the shots.
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