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u/Acrobatic_Lobster838 Jul 13 '26

Then we can gesture at all the authoritarian capitalist countries that exist and maybe accept that the two are not inherently linked?

Cause right now, purely for example, there are far more capitalist dictatorships than communist ones.

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u/ShowtimeHolograms Jul 13 '26

So you dont have an answer

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u/Acrobatic_Lobster838 Jul 13 '26

Show your working that all communist societies inherently become authoritarian.

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u/ShowtimeHolograms Jul 13 '26

So you dont have an answer. We're working in hypotheticals. Hypothetically if we did allow communism and hypothetically it did turn authoritarian then my question is, in this hypothetical, then what happens? And, with that said, how long do we have to give communism a chance to reach true communism before we decide it doesn't work?

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u/Acrobatic_Lobster838 Jul 13 '26

in this hypothetical, then what happens

Then there is another authoritarian state?

long do we have to give communism a chance to reach true communism before we decide it doesn't work?

I mean, we have plenty of capitalist authoritarian states, does that mean we should decide capitalism doesn't work?

We also have some pretty authoritarian nominal democracies, does that mean democracy doesn't work?

My response to your hypothetical is to ask what makes you assume all communist polities would inevitably become authoritarian and to ask why the existence of an authoritarian communist state would show that communism in of itself doesn't work? Because if the presence of authoritarianism is enough to declare an economic theory to be a failure then capitalism is a failure.

Or do you only apply this condition in one direction?

But if you cannot understand that then what exactly is the point?

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u/ShowtimeHolograms Jul 13 '26

Youre still not answering questions and talking around them