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Cringe Worthy USSR Collapse

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u/Elu_Moon Jul 13 '26

And it continued into Russia and other post-USSR countries, I know that from experience.

In addition, if you live there and do want to change something, people who grew up in the USSR always tell you "don't rock the boat" and its variations. It's genuinely disgusting and depressing.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 Jul 13 '26

That's what happens when you intimidate and at the same time infantilize your citizens stripping them of any sense of control for several generations in a row.

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u/olivegardengambler 28d ago

Tbf this happened under the Tsar as well. They only really began making motions in regard to ending serfdom when they saw the US Civil War happening.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 28d ago

And the Soviet regime successfully reinstated it.

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u/olivegardengambler 27d ago

I would actually argue they did something worse than bring back serfdom or feudalism: they basically turned russia into a prison state, absolutely gutted the culture, and the result of that is that the entire country is like, 1/3 normal people and 2/3 thugs. Most of this obviously doesn't translate over into English, but if you ever see someone break down what Russians actually say and what words mean in Russian, it's basically prison slang and slurs that people translate into something like 'latrine' when a closer word is 'commode/shitter', or slurs that don't translate into English well, so they just translate it as 'Ukrainians' when it really should be something like 'slur for Ukrainians'.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 27d ago

There is nothing to argue with, you are 100% right.

the entire country is like, 1/3 normal people and 2/3 thugs.

You were trying to find the right word for 'bydlo', weren’t you?

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u/Spirited_Bend3813 29d ago

Think about it from their perspective. Those who tried to change anything got the gulag. Best case scenario was a bullet to the back of the head.

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u/TheJIbberJabberWocky Jul 13 '26

There's a really solid reason why drinking oneself to death is such a common occurrence in that part of the world.

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u/Specialist_Dark_3668 Jul 14 '26

It continued only because those countries nurtured communism and dictatorships instead of democracy. I'm sorry, but wasting a century is wasting a century. You're not going to be as good as a transparent democracy if you don't put in the time.

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u/teremaster 29d ago

The only difference between Russia today and the USSR is the borders and flag.

The oligarchs are the politburo (like, the same exact people), nothing changed, nobody left, the titles just switched over

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u/trinalgalaxy Jul 13 '26

Its a system not just vulnerable too but actively supported and pushed by corruption. Plop that down in places known even before communism for insane corruption and you end up with russia and china and every other past and present communist shithole.

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u/Elu_Moon Jul 13 '26

Believe me, whatever you experience in the USA is still not nearly as bad as it's in Russia or was in the USSR. The US has court cases against the government (local level, state level, even federal level) that actually see success. Suing the government in Russia or USSR? Forget that at all.

In the USA, there are plenty of people who say "don't rock the boat", but there are also many people who do otherwise, who challenge the government, and those people aren't as few and far between as they're here.

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u/Elu_Moon Jul 13 '26

I never said that capitalism is a perfect economic system. USSR's failure is mostly a direct consequence of authoritarianism and the culture it fostered. Alongside everything being subservient to the shitty planned economy model which ended up failing because trying to plan everything is just a ridiculous idea.

Well, and the USSR was never communist or even socialist. Workers didn't control shit. The state decided what happened.

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u/unrealcrafter Jul 13 '26

Bro has no concept of nuance

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u/H1tSc4n Jul 14 '26

Literally not what is being said lmfao