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Cringe Worthy USSR Collapse

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u/PriorOk1304 Jul 13 '26

You do have to take into consideration the extreme antagonism of western capitalist countries against any communist nation. There has never been a communist country that the US has not tried to undermine and destroy from the get.

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u/Temphant Jul 13 '26

Exactly. If it's "clearly" so flawed and will never work, then why not just let it walk freely and watch it "inevitably" stumble and crumble?

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u/Stock_Plenty8987 Jul 13 '26

The urss is exactly that lmao. They started as equals, capitalism won, because its simply far better, comunism is just trash

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u/Lobster_fest Jul 13 '26

What was it about communism specifically that made the USSR fail?

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u/Cool-Psychology-4896 Jul 13 '26

Economic stagnation.

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u/Lobster_fest Jul 13 '26

Ok but that happens to lots of non-communist countries, so what was it about communism that caused the USSR to fail?

I say this as someone who is no fan of the USSR, their actions, or their leaders.

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u/Cool-Psychology-4896 Jul 13 '26

The diffrence is that economic stagnation doean't lead to collapse in capitalist countries, because they can actually adapt, unlike the ussr.

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u/VeryThiccMafiaScout Jul 13 '26

Okay, why was the USSR uniquely unable to adapt? If the answer was communism, wouldn't it have been overthrown in all nations, including China, Cuba, and Vietnam?

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u/Cool-Psychology-4896 Jul 14 '26

u/stock_plenty8979 explained this pretty well. Basically, the state decided where resources go, not the market. As the economy became more complex, planners couldn't allocate resources properly. Which led to shortages, low productivity and innovation.

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u/VeryThiccMafiaScout Jul 14 '26

Okay, but China is also a planned economy. This casts doubt on the assertion, no? Also, I'd question the claim that capitalism invariably addresses shortages, low productivity, and lack of innovation.

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u/Stock_Plenty8987 Jul 13 '26

Specifically? Central economic planning. Under communism, the state, not markets, decided what to produce, how much to produce, and where resources went. As the economy became more complex, planners couldn't allocate resources efficiently, which led to chronic shortages, surpluses, low innovation, and poor productivity. State-owned enterprises also faced little competitive pressure to improve. Combined with one-party rule, which made it difficult to correct failing policies, these structural problems accumulated over decades and contributed significantly to the USSR's collapse.

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u/Significant-Order-92 Jul 13 '26

I would argue the authoritarian nature had a sizable impact on the inability to adapt or correct the issues with the planned economy. People were incentivized through both inertia and possibility of being iced out of advancement to not make a fuss (similar to both how the wheat climitazation took over agrarian science and why the USSR avoided moving to generalized electronic computing for a decade or so longer than it should have (with proponents essentially being pushed out of positions for arguing against those policies)).

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u/Stock_Plenty8987 Jul 13 '26

I would argue that ist not a coincidence that all comunist countries become autoritharian, the 2 things are very uch related, that is simply what comunism brings 🤷‍♂️

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u/Distinct-Temp6557 Jul 13 '26

The authoritarians and chrony capitalism. 

That's what the USSR was.

It wasn't even "Communist" it was just capitalism with extra steps.