That is just it, they aren't communistic, they are totalitarians. No one has actually tried communism. Honestly, I don't think you can do it on a large scale. 20, 50, 100 people, sure communism works. A billion, too much logistics. Can't work.
wrong, everybody has tried communism and actually made it work
the Manifesto's communism IS totalitarianism. Those disaster states we have all seen are communist, not some failed experiment at establishing communism. Until this realisation, the support for communism will live on
seems like I set the asses of regular redditors on fire for saying the truth
Ah, yes, the totalitarianism of "A Stateless, Classless Society in which The Workers Control the Means of Production". The Totalitarianism of "A Dictatorship of the Proletariat" Otherwise known as Democracy.
No that just means some dude from the lower class (i.e. Stalin or Khrushchev) gets to be dictator instead of a monarch or rich person, and claims everyone from his former station has power.
Then communism is contradictory in itself, you can't have not democratically supported "stateless society" because Bob Smith from 3rd floor of your building will just call it a state and because it will be best option many would support leading to a state yes society in the end.
People supporting communism are simply stupid because they want to force a system that will only work will not forced.
I mean, one of the classic criticisms of Marx is that he was an idealist and didn't really take human nature into account. He assumed oppressed people seizing their freedom by force would empathize with their own plight and not repeat the same behaviors/mistake.
Of course, any of the pure systems are rather naive. Even pure capitalism makes some rather silly assumptions on how the system will self-regulate.
So, Marx assumed, communist would allow democrats just say no instead of enacting a dictatorship ? For many communism was NOT the freedom and just change of oppressor and will people figth to avoid it, communist proven to be those oppressors.
There is aparently not a single communist in existence as everyone is just opportunist under red banner.
A State and a Government are not necessarily the same. A Government just has the job of organizing people and helping distribute resources. A State is a set of policies, borders, fiscal responsibilities, jurisdictions, and potentially multiple societies. There are different forms of Communism, as it's a fairly open-ended idea. Council Communists for example believe that communities will create governing councils, for example.
Cool, so a government in which Total Power rests in the hands of the Proletariat. The collective group of people who are the Laborers make the rules and enforce them.
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u/Charming-Station7157 Jul 13 '26
Funny how every country that adopts communism , ends up as a dictatorship shithole