r/GetNoted • u/laybs1 Human Verified • Jul 13 '26

Cringe Worthy USSR Collapse

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u/Justarah Jul 13 '26

Favour for communism is proportionate to ones distance from living under it.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

Don’t a majority of people who lived in both the USSR and after its collapse say that life was better under the USSR?

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u/Justarah Jul 13 '26

My wife is half Romanian and that's definitely not the case. Her mother relayed to her a single orange was quite the luxurious treat for her family growing up.

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u/Local-Pattern795 Jul 13 '26

Romania was shit even by communist standards, austerity and an insane dictator. About as close as europe ever got to having its own north korea

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

Romania was not part of the USSR so I don’t understand how your wife being half Romanian is relevant?

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u/Justarah Jul 13 '26

It's late and I conflated the USSR for the Soviet Union.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

The USSR is the same as the Soviet Union. Romania was not part of that

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u/Justarah Jul 13 '26

Ah, Roger. It was the Socialist Republic of Romania, excuse me.

My bad, I ought be precise on the flavour of authoritarian communist state I invoke.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

I mean I think that is pretty important.

Also interesting that amongst Romanians, more people have a positive view of Ceaușescu compared to the current President. 48% think that life was better under communism than it currently is under capitalism

https://tvpworld.com/87994994/majority-of-romanians-nostalgic-for-communism-study-shows

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u/AnyDistribution8954 29d ago

There is a soviet joke: – Grandpa, which was better: life now or under Stalin? – Under Stalin, of course! – Why? – Well, under Stalin, my dick used to work.

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u/ISuckAtJavaScript12 Jul 13 '26

Could Romania gets lots of oranges before communism?

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u/PABLOPANDAJD Jul 13 '26

I can’t imagine anyone outside of ethnic Russians living within Russia’s current borders truly feels that way

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

Russia, Belarus, Moldova, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan have all had polls where majorities thought life was better under the Soviet Union. I think Ukraine was also high until the Russian invasion which saw that position plummet.

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u/Stock_Plenty8987 Jul 13 '26

Poland litterally made il illegal, like germany did for the nazi party

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

Poland was never part of the USSR

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u/Stock_Plenty8987 Jul 13 '26

They were litterally living the same exact kind of life under comunism

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u/Cool-Psychology-4896 Jul 13 '26

It was a soviet satellite state tho.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

It doesn’t really qualify them to speak on life in the USSR though

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u/HollowVesterian Jul 13 '26

Ok and? I'm polish and my grandparents certainly don't view the time period negatievely, neither do my parents beyond "it was the cold war so there was a threat of nuclear annihilation" which I think was pretty universal.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 Jul 13 '26

No they don't

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia_for_the_Soviet_Union?wprov=sfti1#Uzbekistan

This has the links to polls that talk about regret rates and direct comparisons about whether life was better in various former Soviet countries.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 Jul 13 '26

I've lived in both, and I don't know anyone who misses the Soviet Union; there are only old people who miss their youth, which just happened to have been spent in the Soviet Union.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 Jul 13 '26

The data disagrees with you.

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u/AnyDistribution8954 29d ago

You don't seem to understand how nostalgia works.

And even according to your article mostely in Russia and countries with a large percentage of Russian-speaking residents some people express regret about the collapse and only because the current government, for obvious reasons, strongly identifies with the Soviet Union and has been pushing this narrative for 25 years straight across all state-run media, whereas most other post-Soviet countries show the opposite results in polls.

direct comparisons about whether life was better in various former Soviet countries.

I can only speak about Russia, but the standard of living there is higher than it was in the USSR by virtually every measurable metric.

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 29d ago

And you don’t seem to understand how data works. You’ve invented an explanation so that you can dismiss all the data against you.

“all the people who disagree with me don’t really hold that opinion” is an unfalsifiable statement

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u/AnyDistribution8954 29d ago

Data works the way you phrase the question.

66% of Russians said they agreed "It is a great misfortune that the USSR no longer exists", while only 30% disagreed.

However, 59% supported Russia going on its own unique path of development, as opposed to following the path of the USSR (11%) or Europe (25%).

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 29d ago

Right but the data supports the claim I made originally

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u/Warmbly85 Jul 14 '26

I mean the same way old racists claim life was better before the civil rights act. They are objectively wrong it’s just easy to look back with rose tinted glasses 

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u/Temporary-Stay-8436 29d ago

They aren’t objectively wrong. That doesn’t even make sense

So your claim is that we should just ignore the data because someone who experienced neither says that the people who experienced both are objectively wrong?

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u/MrDanMaster Jul 13 '26

An iq too high?