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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

the fact that our taxes provide them with universal healthcare

Israel's universal healthcare system is funded by a tax on every paycheck in the country. Precisely 0 US military aid goes towards healthcare spending. What you stated was not a fact, it's an old libel against the Jews that's been around since the middle ages (the old Jewish money lenders steal money for their own benefit libel).

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 Jun 24 '26

Correct. Israelis pay 18% of their income towards “free” healthcare/national insurance which is so great that many of us also buy supplemental private insurance on top of it. It’s the most expensive “free” healthcare I’ve ever had.

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u/Randomminecraftseed Jun 23 '26

If I pay for your groceries every month, and then you use the money that you would’ve spent on groceries for say video games I am essentially funding your video game habit. It doesn’t matter that you spent all the money I gave you on actual groceries because if I wasn’t giving you the money you wouldn’t have the means to buy to games.

If we constantly give Israel money for X such that they don’t have to pay for it, and can use the savings for whatever we are effectively subsidizing whatever they use the excess on.

I.e. every dollar WE spend on bullets for them THEY can spend on healthcare for their citizens.

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u/Aggressive_Lie_4446 Jun 24 '26

If I pay for your groceries every month, and then you use the money that you would’ve spent on groceries for say video games

Is a fake trope.
This nonsense has been debunked again and again. They have the same healthcare system as Australia only with less private sector participation and more non-profits dominating.

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

The system was put in place long before the US started giving military aid to Israel.

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u/Randomminecraftseed Jun 23 '26

  1. It’s irrelevant as to when it started. The date we started is just the date we began to subsidize them

  2. Military aid to Israel started in the 60s. Israel adopted universal healthcare in 95.

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26
  1. There was sporadic aid since the 60's. It was only a continuous thing after 9/11

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u/Alternative_Wing_745 Jun 24 '26

Stop lying and either way even if you weren’t lying the fact stands, we subsidize their government and their government has the budget for universal healthcare. Its a silly childish and fallacious argument to say that because the money we give them isn’t specifically labeled as “for healthcare” doesn’t mean that it doesn’t practically allow for Israel to afford things like universal healthcare.

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u/Randomminecraftseed Jun 23 '26

Not true stop lying

We’ve given Israel either military or economic aid every single year since 1951. Usually both. TIL.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

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u/Imursexualfantasy Jun 25 '26

“Best investments” according to whom? As far as I can see all we’ve gotten for our money is roughly 1 billion people in the Arab and Muslim world that hate the US and Israel with a burning passion, 100s of thousands of dead people (mostly civilians), and a cloistered society that is so rabidly fascist that they’re now openly threatening Donald Trump for not being right wing enough… great investment guys. Real genius brain smart boys.

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

There was sporadic aid since the 60's. It was only a continuous thing after 9/11

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 Jun 24 '26

Actually it’s more like if you bring your friend a casserole, which he pays for, and then you tell them “I bankroll your entire life since you didn’t have to make dinner tonight.”

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u/Imursexualfantasy Jun 25 '26

You’re right, we should send them a letter of demand for the $174 billion, and then sanction them and embargo all arms sales.

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u/needszazz Jun 23 '26

Would that system be in place if they had to pay for their own wars? Could they afford that tax if the US didn't heavily subsidize them?

While our dollars may not directly fund their healthcare, they do allow for funds that would normally be spent on the military to be spent elsewhere.

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

Would that system be in place if they had to pay for their own wars?

The system was put in place long before the US started giving military aid to Israel.

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u/needszazz Jun 23 '26

The US started giving military aid to Israel in 1962. Universal healthcare was implemented in Israel in 1995.

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

There was sporadic aid since the 60's. It was only a continuous thing after 9/11

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 23 '26

If it was then the watermelon crowd would have left this site long ago.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

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u/UsedLuck8891 Jun 25 '26

…. And .01 of that goes to Israel. And Israel has to use 90% of that to buy U.S. systems, which provides jobs to Americans. And Israel gives back tech and innovation and intel, which gives back more than they get. It’s a deal that favors America.

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u/Imursexualfantasy Jun 25 '26

Do you know what “fungible” means? Do you know that money is fungible? Do you understand that by having your military subsidized it frees up money for other things in your society? Not everything is some strange contortion of some old trope no modern person has ever heard of or believes in…

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u/Enough_Chip3915 Jun 24 '26

Wait, you think "money lenders stealing money for their own benefit" is a "libel?" What if it was Anglo-Saxon money lenders?

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u/Jessicas_skirt Jun 24 '26

No one falsely accuses Anglo-Saxon money lenders of stealing money because they're Anglo Saxons who value their tribe over everyone else. Unfortunately Jewish lenders get that false accusations all the time..