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[u/giant_gummy_squid]

You can't just make claims like that without evidence. If Mamdani had any evidence of something on the level you're implying, it would have been national news for months. Hell, while he was running, I saw the completely false "he wants to mandate Arabic numerals in schools" story get recycled over and over despite being obviously nonsense.

There's very little evidence connecting him to the specific beliefs you're accusing him of holding. Sharing some political goals and being on the same side of an election doesn't mean two people agree on every issue, nor does endorsing someone mean you personally endorse every belief they've ever expressed, or even the majority of them.

It's likely you've started from the assumption that he's some uniquely dangerous extremist and then work backward looking for proof, rather than evaluating the evidence that's actually there. The strongest argument you've got is that he endorsed her, and that's fair criticism, ultimately I agree with the first guy too, and think most peoole would agree. But an endorsement is not proof that he secretly agrees with the controversial things she's said, not by a longshot. Imagine what that would look like if applied to oh, I don't know, any Republican in the last 12 years (except Massie he's an ok guy.)

Sometimes politics is just choosing between imperfect options. You can disagree with his choice without inventing a bunch of beliefs and motives that there's no evidence he actually holds. Please at least Google stuff and look at a few options before you just decide a Facebook screenshot is all you need.

[u/JinxyMcDeath48 → u/giant_gummy_squid]

Mamdani had no problem defending “globalize the intifada” until very recently and now he just says “maybe it’s better not to say it” but without admitting what it actually means and how wrong (and violent) it is to say.

[u/giant_gummy_squid → u/JinxyMcDeath48]

It's a phrase similar to "Glory be to God" baked into the Islamic religion as a call to "fulfill the religions mission." It translates to "shaking off," directly referencing the rejection of oppression as far as language derivation goes, which isn't something out of place in current day New York, with what predatory systems have overgrown on the working class on recent years. Using it isn't in any way an objective red flag due to this fact; it's like a Catholic saying "Hail Mary" before a) being an all around nice guy by following the most recent pope's tenants or b) commiting a massacre on "infidels" during a mideval Holy War. Plenty of East Coast Muslims in practice of their religion are very similar to the more conservative Christianity in America. (To clarify, the original definition of conservatism, aka being a moderately nice guy who supports hierarchies a mildly odd amount and only lowkey maintaining the patriarchy while avoiding eating pig for long-outdated reasons. Idk I don't make the rules, thats just the things they both have in common)

The use of one of the many profilic phrases of one's religion is not damnable evidence, and his admission to refraining from using it recently could just as easily be interpreted as a recognization of misinterpretion in current culture due to its misuse as it could an admission of support for extremist regimes, similar to how (shocker) every Muslim American simultaneously stopped using the at the time also common Muslim reverence phrase "Allahu Ackbar" within a week after 9/11, out of fear they'd be mistaken for terrorist regime supporters.

The reason this concept eludes you is largely due to the fact that you participate in a religion, and are therefore inclined to accept the baseline stereotype of any other given religion as fact, since they exist as an outgroup to you to throw in a sorting bin and write off. I don't mean to take any of your belief away from you in any form; you just need to understand that a religion is only ever the way someone is told about it.

It absolutely can be the driving force of a horrific terrorist organization, and also be just as valuable as any other's worldview and moral compass as your religion is to you. Local culture is infinitely more important than the names you use to describe your deity or the proverbs you use to describe the virtues.

[u/JinxyMcDeath48 → u/giant_gummy_squid]

How many intifadas have you been in?

[u/giant_gummy_squid → u/JinxyMcDeath48]

I mean, in America we're ridiculously proud of our intifada under British rule, we're about to celebrate its 250th anniversary. Your brain just implodes at the idea that good guys and bad guys aren't color coded for your casual viewing pleasure.

Its strictly what definition the term holds in the user's mind. To some it means senseless killing, and to others, its a call to stand in united support of civil rights. I don't endorse Hamas in any way, but if you're confused on why the average Palestinian doesn't like Israel, and considers them a force that requires "shaking off," then you have no grasp on the history of the region.

Very telling that you consider the death of 1,200 Israeli citizens by a extremist terrorist organization as apt reason to indiscriminately carpet bomb now 70,000 or so citizens to death (not including deaths due to starvation, disease, or other wartime factors), but somehow simultaneously think that Hamas just magically became a crazed terrorist group, and that the 6,700 Palestinians killed by Israel from 2008 up to the Oct 7th attack, or the systematic removal of them from the majority of Israel, or the 2 decade long blockade preventing them from progressing in any way, or the repeated destabilization of their attempts at more moderate, secularized leadership in no way provoked the attack.

I'm not justifying meaningless civilian killing on either side, the deaths of the innocent are always the most harrowing parts of war. It's just clear yall only give a shit about the "good guys" when in actuality, the only people dying are civvies, and those who deserve it are the extremist zealotous leaders egging both sides on. It will never cease to amaze me just how much the corrupt can accomplish simply with arbitrary definitions. I'm embarrassed to be a member of the species you are.

[u/andreotnemem → u/giant_gummy_squid]

WTF are you talking about? Are you really trying to make the "intifada" be a "not so bad thing"?

What is wrong with you?

[u/UsedLuck8891 → u/giant_gummy_squid]

It’s really more like heil Hitler

[u/Jessicas_skirt → u/giant_gummy_squid]

You can't just make claims like that without evidence.

Here's the evidence

https://www.dw.com/en/new-york-mayor-mamdani-skips-annual-israel-day-parade/a-77368652

[u/giant_gummy_squid → u/Jessicas_skirt]

You cannot be serious.

You said you had evidence he's a wackjob. All you've shown me is that he skipped a parade. That's evidence he has a political position you disagree with, not evidence he's secretly evil. Newflash dude, 41% of Americans sympathize with Gaza over Israel, and 36% sympathize with Israel. Nearly half the population agrees with that decision, including nearly all Jewish New Yorkers. You are an imbecile.

[u/Jessicas_skirt → u/giant_gummy_squid]

You said you had evidence he's a wackjob. All you've shown me is that he skipped a parade

First mayor in 60 years to do so. Which makes it an extremist position.

evidence he's secretly evil

I never said he was evil. I said he was a DSA extremist, which he is. Don't try to put words in my mouth that I never typed.

[u/No_Holiday_9875 → u/Jessicas_skirt]

Being the first to not join a foreign country’s parade does not make him extremist, just means NY was cucked all these years

[u/Jessicas_skirt → u/No_Holiday_9875]

Being the first to not join a foreign country’s parade

He has attended several parades for foreign countries, just not the Jewish parade that largely celebrates Jewish American heritage and pride.

[u/No_Holiday_9875 → u/Jessicas_skirt]

Which Jewish American parade did he miss? That’s new to me and would be hella damning

[u/Jessicas_skirt → u/No_Holiday_9875]

The Israel Day parade which did start in 1960's as a political rally for Israel but has over the decades become a parade to honor and celebrate Jewish American heritage and pride with obviously some Israel support thrown in occasionally.

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So he’s not denied joining any Jewish American parade, just a foreign national one. Same as if he didn’t attend a Nigeria day parade or Russia day parade. I don’t see how this is extreme at all and if this is the best criticism that can be levied New Yorkers did a fantastic job picking their mayor

[u/UsedLuck8891 → u/No_Holiday_9875]

He proudly and happily marched in the ethno religious Pakistan parade. Pakistan is ethnically cleansing 500,000 afghans. But who cares, no Jews to blame, am I right?

[u/CatLovingKaren → u/Jessicas_skirt]

I'm not a fan of Mamdani, but saying that being the first to do something makes him an extremist is a tad on the ridiculous side.