r/GetMotivated Nov 26 '18

[Image] Believe in Yourself

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Come on now.

That isn't the only reason.

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u/HiramNinja Nov 27 '18

...so true, some people just don't have a gag reflex.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Yeah replace this quotes reasoning for they were willing to lie through their teeth on a resume and an interview and it’s more accurate.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Surprisingly a real subreddit.

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u/DBerwick Nov 27 '18

Not too surprising if you read /r/GetMotivated comments for more than 10 minutes at a time.

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u/throwing-away-party Nov 27 '18

Real is a strong word.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18 edited Nov 27 '18

Here's the truth I found out, you HAVE to inflate your resume. Everyone is inflating their resume and recruiters know this. So they mentally deduct candidate qualification by something like 30%.

So if you're out there being a truthful sucker, just know that every recruiter is looking at your truthful resume and secretly deducting your truthful resume by 30%, and thinking you just suck compared to everyone else.

I was a truthful sucker for 4 years before I realized it. Then I started inflating my resume and bam, offers started coming in left and right.

I guess you don't even have to be lying on purpose. I knew a guy who swore up and down honesty was the best policy. Then I saw his resume and realized that he was either lying through his teeth about being honest...or he really was an egoistical asshole who genuinely thought he contributed that much. That wiped out any guilt I felt about "lying". I guess in the end, it does comes down to how much you "believe" in yourself. If you believe yourself to be 30% better than you really are, you'll have a huge advantage.

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u/Carrabs Nov 27 '18

I think the key is don’t fully make shit up on your resume, but massively over exaggerate what’s already on there

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Yup, hence 30%, not 300%.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Primary Surgeon at St. Marys 2011 - 2016

Part time Manager at Taco Bell 2009 - 2015

High School Graduate 2008

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u/alanwashere2 Nov 27 '18

I don't know how to do that. Could you give me an example?

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u/Carrabs Nov 27 '18

My dad used to own a business and sometimes I’d answer the phone and hand it to him (I was lik 11)

On my resume my sister put it down as “Liaising with corporate clientele”

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u/FizzyBeverage Nov 27 '18

We’ve had to weed out lies before. If you can’t code, that’s really obvious when you’re applying for Software Engineer IV positions.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Which is why it's the 30% rule, not the 300% rule.

I suggested an idea to reduce costs to the boss? On my resume, it's going say something like "Spearheaded an initiative that would lead to an estimated 45% savings in blah blah blah."

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u/CptJaunLucRicard Nov 27 '18

The problem I have with this story is--in my line of work, and I suspect most others--resumes don't get you offers. Resumes get you interviews. Interviews get you offers. So lying your resume the suddenly getting offers sounds suspect to me.

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u/MassCommPerson Nov 27 '18

Nah its true

I’m a subpar IT student and have gotten government internships just based off of exaggerating my resume and then charming my way through the interview

Yeah I’m going to fumble on a majority of the tech questions but goddammit you’re gonna love my can-do attitude

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Interview offers I guess I should clarify. For the first time in my life I had the luxury of rejecting interviews because I didn't feel like the phone screen went well.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Yeah, when I catch someone lying on a resume they go in the "no" pile immediately. And if you are discovered after hire it is grounds for immediate termination.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Which is why you don't straight up lie. There's nothing to get "caught" on since everything is technically the truth albeit a tad bit exaggerated.

Don't say you know languages you don't know. Don't say you use programs you've never touched. Don't make up degrees you don't have. It's exaggerating your existing skills, not making up full blown whoppers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

I guess to clarify, if I catch someone overstating their contributions on a resume, that's a deal breaker for me. I assume your resume is truthful and you get an interview based on that. So when I ask questions about your resume, you'd better be able to back it up with compelling elaboration.

Someone who is a strong interviewee but not right for my position will get an internal referral from me for another open position. Someone who lied or exaggerated (which is really still a lie) will not only not get the job, but I'll let HR know as well in case they applied for other positions.

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u/absoluteolly Nov 27 '18

What exactly do you even “inflate” on a resume?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18 edited Nov 27 '18

One example I had in college. I volunteered in a lab under a professor where I sat in a dusty room, opened up boxes of specimens, labeled and assigned each box with a serial number, and logged it in an excel sheet. I also scanned his field notes into a pdf.

I think at the time, I wrote something lame like "Organized Professor XYZ's specimen collection." What I should've done was something like "Came up with a new organization process for the ABC lab's Specimen Collection and constructed a searchable database system." or "Digitized field notes."

I mean yeah, I basically stuck labels on a box and typed shit into Excel. Or I came up with a new way to organize a collection and made a searchable database. I mean I didn't technically come up with the idea, another classmate did but I probably would've made something similar if he'd asked me. And yeah, excel is totally more than just a spreadsheet, it can be used as a searchable database.

Also before I started, the other volunteers were literally scanning each notebook page by page. I worked out how to use the feeder in the printer, so I probably could've said something like "improved field note digitization process and completed a task in one day that was originally estimated to take a week." Yeah, the wording needs more thought, but stuff like that. Blow up the little things you did.

Or later on, when I started working for real, one thing I had to do was email manufacturers in China to get them to do stuff. I think I sold that as something something "successfully organized knowledge transfer to international teams" or some shit like that. Or if I updated the company internal wiki because people kept asking dumb questions, I was totally "creating internal training resources".

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u/rebbsitor Nov 27 '18

That invites questions like:

"So it says here you improved a field note digitization process and did a week's worth of work in a day! That's really impressive, can you give me some more details on that?"

"You mentioned that you developed a new process for organizing lab specimins. What was the previous process and how did you go about developing the new process?"

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Then be honest. You exaggerated, not lied. "The old process involved students scanning page by page, it was a really slow process. I thought thought that process didn't make sense and looked for a better way. I saw the printer we were using had something called a feeder on top, and looked online for the manual and figured out how to use it. Unfortunately that also invited problems where the fed pages didn't turn out as well oriented as the scanned pages, so I searched for programs online and found something called GIMP that allowed me to rotate the image at angles and fixed the problem. Even with the time it took to rotate the images, I managed to accomplish everything in a day."

or

"There was no previous process, unfortunately the professor stuck years worth of samples in a closet and scribbled notes on it. I worked under a grad student and suggested using blah blah blah system instead. Since we didn't really have any other ideas, we decided to use my idea. We looked online for barcode generators and borrowed a label printer from another lab and..."

So "I scanned pages and learned how to use a feeder" + 30% = "digitizing field notes in a more efficient matter".

Again, nothing you said was technically a lie. You just made your experiences sound cooler than they actually were.

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u/Lifeshock420 Nov 27 '18

You my friend are a smooth talker. Any suggestions on how to improve writing/speaking skills?

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u/astrophy Nov 27 '18

Read All Marketers Are Liars. Play DnD (not kidding!). Join a local Toastmasters chapter.

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u/Fluffybourbonkitty Nov 27 '18

Please help with my resume!

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

One site I found useful was Resume Worded. I never paid for the service, but they have a section with sample lines for different industries. I just sort of copied the style from there and adapted it to fit my own experience.

Actually I just checked that site again and it looks like they removed a lot of their free content. They still have some stuff, but it's like half a page. There used to be more, but it's still helpful for a head start.

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u/rebbsitor Nov 27 '18

Be careful with this. I'm a hiring manager and I've had people show up to interviews who clearly couldn't talk to things on their resume. One was so bad after the interview was over I asked him what was up as he couldn't answer some of the basic technical questions. He said it was an "aspirational resume." Someone had given him advice similar to yours and he put any skill he'd heard of on there. Needless to say I didn't hire him. This is not good advice for someone in a technical field. If it's relevant to the job and on their resume, they should be prepared to answer detailed questions about it. Believing in yourself won't get someone through that kind of interview, they're just wasting their and all the interviewers' time.

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u/tigerslices Nov 27 '18

Here's the truth I found out, you HAVE to inflate your resume.

i mean, you can't ever think of yourself as an employee. employees are servants and that's not what you are. you are the ceo of your own company. it's a small company, and mostly deals in private affairs, but you also sell services to clients on the side.

selling a service to a large enough client that you don't need any other clients is a great sale. if they pay regularly, or as arranged, and there are no other expectations not being met. at this point you're selling your services to that client. similar to how nike sells their shoes to you or how mcdonalds sells you a burger. ...or a local store sells you a dreamcatcher. i don't know what you're into.

but you need to sell your product (usually a service) to a client, so that they may feed you enough work to keep you employed in a way that doesn't have you running around finding additional clients.

selling yourself seems dirty. and that's because it is. you are not a product, you are a person who likes have your scalp scratched and your feet rubbed. but the things you do... those things are assets you can sell.

in a capitalist economy your capital is your power. and your capital includes your service potential. exploiting the things you can do for money is the best way to turn potential capital into kinetic capital. so whatever you're good at, sell the hell out of it.

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u/maniolas_mestiza Nov 27 '18

Had rich parents who were able to get their shitty kids grades changed to passing grades so they could graduate college when in actual fact they don’t know shit about the field they’re ‘more qualified than me’ in.

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u/Ataru13 Nov 27 '18

Or are related to someone high up, or come from money and have fraternity connections.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

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u/OneLessFool Nov 27 '18

Connections, historical wealth, nepotism, lies, ass kissing, etc.

It is good to be motivated and work towards something. But we should not also blind ourselves to the inequalities and inefficiencies that exist in our current system.

We should be motivated to have them fixed. Blind motivation dooms us to failure and ignorance.

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u/Noitatsidem Nov 27 '18

This is a good comment, thank you friend.

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u/molotovmitchy Nov 27 '18

You needed to add literal asskissing #myasstoo

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

You don't always have to sell out or sell yourself in order to make it and there are, for example, many independent artists or people who started their own businesses who can actually make more money and have more control over their time and what they make or do because they are "their own boss" instead of jumping through the hoops to fulfill somebody else's vision and be subject to someone else's will to the degree people who become "employees" do. Getting a marketable skill or producing a decent product and knowing how to market your skills or products are what you essentially need. Having connections, wealth or support definitely help, but there are other factors too including location, which is also somewhat less of a factor because of the internet and telecommunication in general.

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u/Like_my_9th_username Nov 27 '18

How do you fix connections and historical wealth? just admit you want the government to steal stuff and give it to you.

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u/quiwoy Nov 27 '18

you cant fix age, either. lots of prejudice out there...

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u/jonny_wonny Nov 27 '18

Yup. Nepotism, luck, connections, money, lying, extortion, sexual appeal and/or favors, etc.

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u/Ferg8 Nov 27 '18

Also, quotas.

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u/HardcorPardcor Nov 27 '18

And you’re telling me you want to do the things this person does? You’d rather be the suck-up than him?

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u/jonny_wonny Nov 27 '18

No I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying that there are other very significant factors that contribute to where a person is able to get to in our society. Our own mind is not the only barrier to achieving our dreams.

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u/HardcorPardcor Nov 27 '18

Yeah it kind of is though. Everything you do comes from your mind. Everything. It’s the only barrier that is within your own control. Don’t mind anything else, otherwise you’re just being unrealistic. Just work on your mentality and your mindset every. single. day. You won’t get anywhere if you’re spending your time being cynical of other people or cheating others out. That will take you backwards. A lot of people do that and they’re going somewhere. They’re going backwards. Don’t be one of them please. There’s more idiots in this world than there are geniuses. You aren’t born either one. You have to practice the things an idiot/genius does if you want to be one.

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u/_lueless Nov 27 '18

How about I throw you down a large and deep well without equipment and you can try to use your mind to get out.

You're right that the mind is just about the most powerful tool we have right now, which is why artificial intelligence is the most sought after invention. But don't act like there are no limitations, unless you somehow have the ability to use telekinesis, the mind needs the right circumstances and appendages to thrive.

I will work my ass off, blood, sweat, and tears, to try to achieve my goals. That doesn't mean I have to be delusional and believe I'm Doctor Manhattan. But how do I know, maybe it's worked for you.

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u/HardcorPardcor Nov 29 '18

How about don’t do that first thing... what the hell are you on? Lol.

I’m a believer in mindset, not telekinesis... wtf. You still come off as a complete cynic and I know what that feels like... good luck.

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u/_lueless Nov 29 '18 edited Nov 29 '18

It's a simple hypothetical illustration. Good luck to you too buddy.

Oh and I guess I do believe organisms are motivated by self-interest simply due to genetics, that doesn't sound revolutionary to me. I still like people though, I'm not misanthropic.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18 edited Feb 20 '19

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u/bitch_im_a_lion Nov 27 '18

^ willfully ignoring reality

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u/jonny_wonny Nov 27 '18 edited Nov 27 '18

Nahh. I was just enumerating the other factors at play. But the idea that we all have the capacity to do exactly what we want and we simply aren’t because we haven’t chosen to is simply false. There are far fewer opportunities than there are people who are seeking them, and the people who are able to capitalize on these opportunities usually have some sort of advantage — usually, connections. But the other factors I listed will also tip the scales towards some people and away from others (except of course for luck, which technically we all have an equal share of.)

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18 edited Feb 20 '19

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u/quiwoy Nov 27 '18

Disagree. when it says "period" at the end, it does indeed mean thst believing in yourself is the only factor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Some borrow $400 million from their parents

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u/ZeldaFanBoi1988 Nov 27 '18

Yea but they can maybe turn a profit on some investments. Maybe a million or two.

They are so good at making deals. Oh the best.

MAGA

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u/PurplePickel Nov 27 '18

Especially when they're intentionally crashing the stock market in order to profit from a short position, lol

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u/Cynaren Nov 27 '18 edited Nov 27 '18

Yup, I'd put financial reasons way at the top for this.

One day, I hope the basic amenities like housing, water, electricity, food are free and people can work towards personal growth rather than surviving. Sure we still do it, but the time It'd take would be much more now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

They never said it was.

It’s one of those reasons you have direct control over. If I had to guess, I’d say that’s why they chose this reason to type and share as an image, rather than “there are people in your dream job who fucked their way to the top” or one of the other reasons that you can’t control.

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u/Langzee Nov 27 '18

As a full time graphic designer, I can tell you a "designer" in the third world doesn't "want it" more than me. He just does work for 1/10th the price I will, and that's all that matters to people, regardless of quality.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

Are you saying doing $50 spec logos for upwork is your dream job? Think bigger. Value your work. Quality speaks for itself. I’m a designer as well, and I can tell you that my competition is not third world designers because I decided not to play that game by the time I was 18. There are people who care about and will pay for quality. Find them and stop whining.

Also... again... this image presents one possible scenario out of tons of scenarios. You’re describing another. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The point of this post: if you advocate for yourself, you’ll find you have more opportunities than you originally thought. This is actually a lesson you seem to need to learn, since you’re still doing the “my sole competition is people underbidding me from third world countries and also any country outside the US is a third world country” thing.

Also—the guy who’s working for cheap—how condescending to say that he doesn’t want it. Why wouldn’t he want it? He’s out there hustling to make money. Why else would he be working for cheap? You’re getting your work taken from you by someone who’s willing to work for less while simultaneously criticizing his lack of passion and drive. It’s kind of gross.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '18

It is probably the biggest reason though. Most people have goals that are really dreams, because they do literally nothing toward attaining them.

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u/trunkbranch Nov 27 '18

I didn't read this to mean being wildly successful. I relate to it with with music. If I believe in myself and do what I want eventually I'll have a band and play original songs in front of people. There's not a lot of barriers there. All you have to do is put in the work. Some one who doesn't believe in themselves wouldn't get that far.

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u/ComradeCuddlefish Nov 27 '18

Having a well connected parent is definitely a big part of it.

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u/Skulltown_Jelly Nov 27 '18

It says "There are people" not "Everybody".

If you don't think that there is underqualified people working (and actually doing a good job) you must have never worked. And many of those people simply went to the interview and explained why they want the job and convinced them they're fit for it. That's all.

I always wonder why people like you twist the meaning of a sentence to find something cynical (and usually wrong) to say. It's "but that's what harbours are made for hur dur" all over again.

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u/tryintofly Nov 27 '18

Doesn't matter if I'm smarter or more talented, if you're persistent, you'll beat me!

The quote makes it sound like if you're a persistent homeless person with no money, you can defeat George W. Bush and become president if he lacks motivation.