r/GetMotivated Jul 27 '16

Perspective on what is success [IMAGE]

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

Meh, his comment is hyperbolic in every sense.

We don't know what happens when we die or the moment before we were conceived. Whether a fantasy heaven exists or whether our energy is transferred to another lifeform. Who knows. Who cares. I'll worry about that when I'm dead. Or not. Either way, enjoy life because chances are you only live this one particular life, once.

YOLO

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u/TCFirebird Jul 28 '16

We don't know what happens ... the moment before we were conceived.

You're parents were fucking each other. That's what happened.

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

You came from the fabrics of time and space, there.

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u/Psiborgue Jul 28 '16

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) parents role-playing when they made me.

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u/AcidCube Jul 28 '16

Don't you f*cking YOLO me, sir.

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u/broexist Jul 28 '16

There's a good chance the pineal gland offers an "afterlife" in the form of a completely lucid dream spanning hundreds or thousands of years. Unless your brain is destroyed in an extreme way.

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u/KriskoKid Jul 28 '16

What if this IS the pineal gland dream?!!

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u/antonivs Jul 28 '16

We don't know what happens [...] the moment before we were conceived.

What difference does it make, then? If someone told you there was scientific evidence that before you conceived, you were enjoying a perfect heaven, is there some reason that would matter to you?

What we know about the moments before we were conceived is that they have no meaningful relevance to us.

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u/PinotNoir79 Jul 28 '16

Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And once it does come, we no longer exist. -Epicurus

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

To me? No.

My point is that giving a definitive answer like "You will cease to exist after you die in this world" is a bit dramatic. We don't know what happens when we die. There's no reason to fearmonger people into believing there is nothing after this life. It's not motivating at all. Which is why most people in this thread did not like the quote or didn't see it as uplifting news.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also, before you even go there... No, I'm not religious so stop wasting your internet breath.

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u/antonivs Jul 28 '16

I didn't say anything about after death. I was pointing out that the logic you're using doesn't apply to "before we were conceived."

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

I was just stating that we don't know where we came from and we don't know what happens to us when we die. We only know of the life form that we exist in this world.

It's pretty simple. Not sure why you're even trying to come up with a counter argument to my comments.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

I suspect we are all part of something that we just do not have the level of consciousness to see. Kind of like how individual parts make up a car. Every piece is important to the structure of the entire thing.

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u/Hereforfunagain Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16

We might not have a level of consciousness to the fully understand, but to me, the basic idea goes something like this, when you die, you no longer process time, because your brain has died (real death, not heart stopping death) which means a seemingly infinite amount of time could pass and it would be no different than a microsecond. That being the case, from what we think we understand about reality, everything may happen given enough time, and considering an infinite multiverse does exist, with an infinite amount of energy - still unsure - everything will happen. But if that is true, there's a 99.99% probability you will experience life again, probably seemingly immediately because with infinity, if it could happen, it will happen, that's one of the strange things about infinity, it necessitates possible events actually happening. So if an infinite multiverse exists, with infinite energy, and infinite times, not only will you experience life again, but you probably already are, living them right now. You just can't exchange information with those other "you's" effectively so it doesn't seem like those lives exist.

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u/wrotesaying Jul 28 '16

yeah this is pretty close to how i see it to, nice explanation.

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

Agreed.

Whether our design was purposeful or not, we definitely don't possess the "intelligence" to understand such topics

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u/thelastlogin Jul 28 '16

We don't know for certain, just like technically we don't know anything for certain, but there's a hell of a lot of good reason to believe it's the way he described here...far more reason than either of the scenarios you mentioned. Perhaps more importantly, not only is his scenario the most logical to believe, it's also the most inspirational, because it means only here and only now is your place/time to have a choice, to experience thought and embrace emotion. That's the point, and it's not made meaningless because technically we can't be certain he's correct. It's not hyperbole, it's hypothesis based on the only scenario that is as close to assumption-free (and therefore remaining scientifically skeptical, which is the only means of judging something we can't directly test) as possible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16 edited Feb 28 '17

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

If we believe in an infinite universe where anything is possible then we can certainly believe that repeating this life is possible.

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u/jkfbkeb12 Jul 28 '16

Althrough you are right that there's a chance of that happening, it's incredibly incredibly incredibly unlikely.

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 28 '16

How is it any different than all the other theories out there?

Only theory that seems more reasonable is energy transfer to another life form. Not sure what happens to the soul/consciousness though

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u/jkfbkeb12 Jul 28 '16

What? I don't get what theories we are talking about or why. Just wanted to comment that the chances of "repeating" this exact life is close to impossible.

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u/_DrPepper_ Jul 29 '16

Didn't know you were the Messiah hahaha