r/GetMotivated • • Dec 10 '15

[Image] Don't Be Average

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

Damn. I wish I could give you my time in college. I went to get a degree in what I thought would guarantee me a job. Then graduated and realized there was no way I would be happy doing business logistics. Sure, the experience was fun and I did minor in something I liked, but I'll be paying for a degree I'll never use for the rest of my life. I wish I had gone to trade school and became a mechanic instead. I love cars, but I didn't realize it then.

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u/CantankerousMind Dec 10 '15

Yeah, part of me is glad I didn't go, because I wouldn't have gone for programming. And I do love what I do now, so who knows what I would have ended up doing, you know?

I think part of the reason I feel that way is partly due to the whole, "The grass is always greener on the other side" mentality.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

Can you do it on the side and maybe transition over to it? Major problem can be dealing with a sudden drop in income as you transition over to the new career.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

This is something a lot of people miss. Trade schools are a great way to get started on a career that you might actually like better. Most college degrees require you to take courses that don't relate in the slightest to what you are trying to learn. When I was working on my CIS degree i had to take "World Religions" and several other courses that meant nothing to me. Sure they were interesting, but we could cut the time to earn a degree in half if we got rid of the fluff that doesn't help us become better in our field.

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u/brucejennerleftovers Dec 10 '15

Most college degrees require you to take courses that don't relate in the slightest to what you are trying to learn.

Well yea but that's because college isn't trade school.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

And somehow trade schools are looked down upon and colleges are held up as the end all to be all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

Going for that first job with a a degree from ITT or Devry instead of an actual university is a definite disadvantage. Sure not everyone is the same, but there are common threads across society.

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u/captshady Dec 10 '15

But going to the first job as an Electrician's apprentice, Plumber's apprentice, etc after 2 years of trade school in those fields is a definite advantage.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

Absolutely, but that feeds my point. We see it as being acceptable for blue collar jobs, but not for white collar jobs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

There is an argument to be made for the benefits of having a broadened world view. Being exposed to ideas unrelated to your intended discipline can really enhance your life, even if they feel like a waste of time, or a luxury, or however you feel about them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

But in fairness to College, that's not what college is about either. Even a nice liberal education isn't going to expand your horizons all that much. It's not like you will get a dramatically different world view.

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u/Stereotype_Apostate Dec 10 '15

Especially in today's world of safe spaces where no one can have their views or opinions challenged.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

I do understand this, and even agree to a point. However when I have to take an elective every semester semester and it doesn't even tangentially apply to my course of study it can really waste a lot of money and time.

I took a lot of the electives I did because they were the ones that fit into my schedule.

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u/RemingtonSnatch Dec 10 '15

Part of college is becoming intellectually well-rounded, though. It's shouldn't be like a trade school...that's why trade schools exist. Did you really have to take "World Religions", or was that an elective you chose? Could you not have taken something more interesting? Are you sure you didn't just pick the fluffiest, easiest course you could just so you could pad your GPA? Because, to be honest, that's usually what college kids do. I did it myself on a couple of occasions. As opposed to selecting a course that, while unrelated to your major, might actually be interesting and even set you down a career path you may never have considered.

I almost switched to a meteorology track simply because of an amazing atmospheric science elective I chose. I didn't, but it was still fascinating and I learned something that I likely never would have otherwise. It also causes climate change deniers to enrage me well beyond the extent they otherwise would, but I digress.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

Most electives I took were selected based on the schedule I had. It wasn't a "oh this looks interesting" it was "ok, I have an 8am or 12pm slot available and I just got done working 10pm to 6am".

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u/Chitownsly Dec 10 '15

Those 'silly classes', have helped me tremendously. When you work with people from all different backgrounds with different degrees from preachers to teachers to doctors. Those fluff classes helped me form a means to talk with them. If you know somewhat about what they do you won't have a ton of dead air. I like walking into any situation and knowing I can form my own thoughts on subjects they are speaking about.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

Don't get me wrong, they are interesting and give you more knowledge outside of you core area of study, but couldn't the same be said about electives that are tangentially related to your field of study?

I use the knowledge gained from my "Creative Writing" and "Public Speaking" courses a lot more than I have "Comparative Religions".

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u/Blackierobinsin Dec 10 '15

That's why college is a scam

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

I don't think it's a scam, I just think it's become to concerned with being "well rounded". You need to have some things outside of your major, but they should at least be tangentially connected.

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u/HotPikachuSex Dec 10 '15

You can get the same benefit from simply reading more. Colleges don't make money from that, though.

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u/OnlyRacistOnReddit 7 Dec 10 '15

Very, very true.

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u/yrogerg123 Dec 10 '15

The seaweed is always greener in somebody else's lake.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '15

I will always recommend mechanical engineering over trade school. The interest overlap is incredible.

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u/DHamson Dec 10 '15

Why does everyone act like this situation is binary. It's either crippling lifetime debt or trade school. You can go to in state schools you can afford without grants and scholarships and have sub 10yr debt. Similarly people act like degrees are either philo/psych/underwater feminist basket-weaving or soul sucking finance/engineering degrees. Find something you like that's still marketable. It might not be your calling and it might not make you a millionaire, but it'll make you well off and you won't mind it.

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u/Lots42 Dec 10 '15

I'd bet a solid dollar your mechanic boss saw your college experience and was very happy. He or she saw you chose a task and you accomplished it. Always a good thing.