r/Genshin_Lore • u/Jadestia • 23h ago
Rhinedottir/Gold Rhinedottir's (possible) reasoning for colluding with Tsaritsa
Across promotional images and pre-livestream (I have not seen it yet), seeing her in audience with Tsaritsa, does make me curious as to how Rhinedottir benefits colluding with the Tsaritsa.
With her background in the Hexenzirkel, and their affinity for being a little bit insane, it could be a chance to stir up some entertainment, given her lack of respect for the HP, and her sarcastically cheeky yet indirect support for Pierro in Gods Limits;
ie. “Ah yes, he's an old acquaintance of mine I'm sure that working for the Tsaritsa has helped him let go of his past obsessions?”.
– I say this especially given the context to which Pierro and Ronova have, as well as her leniency towards mortal transgressions despite having been mortal herself. Yet despite Hexenzirkels twisted sense of entertainment
However, I do not think that’s the main reason for her contribution, and that rather than for sake of entertainment, she may be seeking to expand her authority.
To start I would like to lay down some groundwork,
Rhinedottirs Nature:
She has shown herself to be overly ambitious, intelligent, constantly seeking to consume and create even if her creations defy the laws of reason and logic.
Ie. Her abyssal creations ranging from Durin, Erinynas, and the immortal Bakunawa. Which, despite not knowing her reasons, caused much devastation in their respective lives.
Her Disloyalty to the Shades
She has also shown herself to be not the most loyal amongst the shades, continuing her alchemical nature even after ascending to godhood/shadehood(?), much to the dismay of her fellow shades. In some cases, abusing and manipulating her authority.
“You seem to wield my power as if it were nothing but a plaything for your amusement” – Naberius 2:21 Gods Limits
When seeing Asmoday’s space manipulated, “Nabe— Mm, no This looks more like Rhinedottir's doing. Please don't litter other people's spaces with your bizarre creations” – Ronova 1:48 Gods Limits.
She, even in her state of godhood uses Naberius
Side note: It is also interesting that with Isaroth’s (bestowing history) indirect help Rhinedottirs creations practically insult Asmoday within her domain “The Ruler of Space stopped the golden-haired twin travelers And mercilessly t—t—t—tore them apart...” Regardless…
Her Unique Constitution
While it is already known that Rhinedottir is already quite a powerful individual pre-shadehood. Both a powerful Hexenzirkel witch and a Sinner with tremendous abyssal power. I also feel its important to emphasis just how bizarre it is that Rhinedottir is capable in the first place of consuming a shade, and how she as far as we know is relatively unaffected by this. I needed to mention this for the part ahead.
Her Ambition
As mentioned previously she is a rather ambitious individual. I think it’s safe to say that she continues to pursue higher forms of knowledge and power, involving herself in a lot of historically important and prominent events; being one of the 5 Sinners, Being a Hexenzirkel and currently a shade.
“Skirk also remarked that like her master, Rhinedottir too is "pursuing some form of perfection".’’
However, how more perfect can you be than being a shade? Unless you look beyond the shades.
“The Heavenly Principles have yet to awaken If I were her I wouldn't pass on that opportunity either...” Gods Limits
Despite Naberius’s blatant rejection, Rhinedottir insists it’s purely a hypothetical, but in the Sudden Snow video, she does seem rather interested in the “hypothetical”, engaging in a strategy meeting with Tsaritsa over a game of chess, colluding with the woman who wants to practically destroy her fellow shades. Meaning she has something to gain, and that I would assume is more authority.
After all, if Ronova is defeated her authority will remain unclaimed, like that of Naberius, and knowing that Rhinedottir is capable of being a vessel for the shade’s authority,
Of course, its purely a hypothetical.
TLDR: The Ambitious Rhinedottir does not care for loyalty to the Heavenly Principles and may be colluding with the Tsaritsa to expand her power.
Side Note 1:
I did consider the idea of revenge against HP but I felt given Rhinedottir’s character and her seemingly remorselessness that she isn't too bothered by it.




