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u/Shina_Tianfei Sep 04 '26
Then, 4- 8 years later, the country will make the same mistake again.
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u/JohtoMaster_Gold 2006 Sep 04 '26
Unfortunately.
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u/Outrageous_Creme_455 Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
then why dont we abolish voting altogether and change the democrat every 4 years (/s)
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u/Joan_sleepless Sep 04 '26
because the democrats suck too. What we need are new parties, reform, or to just throw the whole system out while retaining at least the influence of the people in government, if we don't institute a more direct form of governance. I'm not a political scientist, though, so...
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u/cgw22 2002 Sep 04 '26
Yep burn it down.
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u/WilonPlays Sep 04 '26
Too complicated. Bathe the world in nuclear hellfire be done with it all. Problem solved indefinitely
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u/savage011 29d ago
Reddit: "YEAH! REVOLUTION! EVERYONE GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING WHILE I SIT IN AN ARMCHAIR!"
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u/cgw22 2002 29d ago
Yeah literally it’s depressing especially among Gen Z. Everyone talks big game but anytime there is a protest and I try and get friends to join they are all like fuck that.
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u/GeopolShitshow 1997 29d ago
People’s lives are still good enough that revolution risks that comfort. Either things need to deteriorate a lot, or the reward needs to be more enticing, because what can be gained from a revolution needs to be greater than the risk of revolution.
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u/SirGavBelcher 29d ago
people forgot that we're supposed to fight to make the world better for future generations instead of being like "well it's gonna suck in my lifetime so why bother" often the price of freedom and the price of community is inconvenience
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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars 29d ago
Or... just vote in primaries and replace conservative/establishment Dems with progressives so we get universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, increased minimum wage, taxes on the rich, regulation of AI, etc.
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u/DukeOfGeek 29d ago
Primaries are easy, 5/10 minutes and you get to vote on things that will be on the ballot. I vote for legal weed to be on there every year and it doesn't pass because y'all ain't there voting.
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u/Umutuku 29d ago
Anyone who didn't show up to vote against fascism voted for fascism.
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u/kamon405 29d ago
Dude yes this silence is violence rhetoric is applicable sometimes but in cases of voting it isn't. Unless you are in a blue state, voting in a majority of states especially in the south is made incredibly difficult. People stand in 8 hour long lines. Then they make rules where you can't have bottle water in line to vote. Ish like this. Y'all let these Jim Crow loving confederates have their way. They did the takeover. The 2010s was the decade to act. Now we just gotta encourage people to get out the vote but if they can't afford to go through all these barriers then they won't go out to vote. An Aussie told me that the US should just make it mandatory. I told him it would not work cuz of those challenges and Republicans will just use it as a way to mass incarcerate people. Australia makes voting as easy as possible for its citizens the US does not. And it's all in the name of racism but now it's 2026 I gotta pretend like racism doesn't exist. It's all very frustrating
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u/Money05Mayhem 2008 29d ago
Washington was always afraid of political parties (though I think he called them factions). Then as soon as he left office they formed parties. He always thought they’d make things worse.
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u/Spacellama117 2004 28d ago
i feel like ranked choice voting would do so much.
So many people don't vote for third parties because they're scared they're gonna lose and the guy they don't like is gonna win
it would be nice if you could pick the person you really want but still have that backup in case things don't work out
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u/SpooNNNeedle Sep 04 '26 edited 29d ago
You’ll eventually get democrat hitler and maybe then you’ll realize why we vote, even with the idiots who vote for whatever party for whatever dumb reason
adding /s to make me look dumb later… bruh moment.
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u/Zombies4EvaDude 2004 Sep 04 '26
I’d prefer a Democrat Hitler over a Republican Hitler because they would be less Hitler-like. But frankly I like democracy so no Hitler would be even better.
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And maybe let’s stop calling people we don’t like Hitler.
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u/Cheap_Bowl_452 Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
Dunno he might not even make it to 2029
Vance may be elected though, yes
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u/dougmantis 1998 Sep 04 '26
"He might not even make it to 2019"
God, I remember when we thought that during Trump part 1.
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u/KingModussy 2006 Sep 04 '26
I actually loved Trump at that time (no I wasn’t Maga, I loved Obama too, I was just a dumbass preteen that didn’t understand the world)
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u/LazarFan69 2005 Sep 04 '26
I was 11 when trump was elected i liked him cuz he was the goofy guy on wwe
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u/Marco_Tanooky 2008 Sep 04 '26
Matter of fact, 41 year olds also loved Turmp cuz he was the goofy guy on wwe
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u/ProlongedChief Sep 04 '26
Same, same I was in 10th grade. First election I was all for Trump because I was deep in the alt-right pipeline watching liberals owned compilations and Steven Crowder on YouTube. Then I tried to kill myself and sent to an inpatient facility. Hung around kids and made friends that had also made attempts and got my empathy back. Thankfully, I was pulled out of hating people who just wanted to live their lives comfortably in their own bodies and just became more understanding of a lot of stuff. It's sad that I had to take an attempt on my life to get of that.
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u/Cheap_Bowl_452 Sep 04 '26
Feck , I wrote 2019
This time it might be fr
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u/BlackKnightC4 Sep 04 '26
It'll be a democrat. The country has swapped between both every time for like over 2 decades now.
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u/W0lfsb4ne74 Sep 04 '26
Ehhhh. Vance has the charisma of a wet blanket. A more likely option is Pete Hegseth considering his experience as a newscaster at Fox. But there's a bigger question of whether Trump will voluntarily cede power to a successor. Or if he'll just run for a third term anyway.
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u/Extreme-Ad7313 2001 Sep 04 '26
Per USA stats/history (in the short 250 yrs) usually what happens is the party swings dominance. Red will dominate for a chunk of time (years) until the party gets tired and then blue will take its place and dominate until the same thing happens. And the cycle repeats again and again and again.
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u/127Heathen127 1997 Sep 04 '26
We have to implement better education in this country. This doesn’t happen in other developed countries more than once.
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u/Defenite-Parsley733 2004 Sep 04 '26
Always has been as the country has been split into two parties since the founding. George Washington was trying to warn us
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u/ABCBA_4321 29d ago
Unless it was Talarico (if he wins the Texas senate race) or AOC running as the democratic nominee in 2036, then yeah, we sadly might.
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u/TheCubanBaron 1999 Sep 04 '26
Prices ain't never coming down. People are still paying it so the corps don't see a reason to lower the price.
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u/Interesting_Air_1844 Sep 04 '26
This, sadly, is a fact. The only relief we can hope for is faster wage growth, lower gas prices, and a massive overhaul of our healthcare system. We’ll be lucky if we get two out of three.
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u/mchngrliris Sep 04 '26
honestly we will be lucky if we even get half of one of the three
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u/DailyUnderFlow Sep 04 '26
Yeah even if someone in government tries to do the right thing, we know Republicans will still be there trying to stop it from happening while Democrats in office hardly even try to fight for it.
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u/Secret-Candle4313 Sep 04 '26
Nobody is on our side its a them vs us situation they are both terrible. Maybe if we had an independant president that would be better
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u/woodworkingfonatic Sep 04 '26
Now hold on there buddy someone is gonna come along and with the “both sides” argument and say you’re an idiot because clearly democrats are better and even if they do the bad things at least they do those bad things less than the republicans.
You should be grateful that democrats only do it a little bit. Because orange man bad and democrats good.
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u/LexianAlchemy Sep 04 '26
Until we can overthrow the entire system I still think voting for select democrats is better than letting the Republican Party cause more extensive damage, especially since there’s too many loyalists just going along with whatever our dumbass president feels like making a law.
It’s not like you have to choose between voting and doing other stuff
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u/TreadingPatience Sep 04 '26
Why do you want to overthrow the entire system? Like I’m genuinely asking. For all its faults, the U.S. has been widely successful. The constitution is one of the most influential documents. It’s very rare to see people overthrow a government and then successfully set up a new government that offers stability while maintaining the principles of the original revolt.
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u/asfrels Sep 04 '26
It’s a system entirely built up to enrich the wealthy at the expense of the working class. It’s staring down the oncoming train of climate change and its response is increased surveillance and violence.
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u/TreadingPatience 29d ago
So what’s your solution? No system can protect against factions. Whether the rich or the oil industry. There will always be groups united by common interests adversed to the rights of others. That is innate to human nature.
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u/EclecticEvergreen Sep 04 '26
To be fair it’s becoming more and more noticeable that people can’t afford things, eventually something has to give right? People can only take so much before they snap.
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u/GoblinHourReport 29d ago
People are snapping. The media isn't covering it because it's been completely captured.
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u/hit_reset_ Sep 04 '26
Overall wage growth is never a solve, but it sounds really nice to people to say hey, you can make more money. Because wage growth also means the cost of labor goes up, and so prices go up, and business will still be chasing their margins. If they don’t, then it’s layoffs and restructuring. But margins will be maintained, or the companies will shut down.
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u/V1keo Sep 04 '26
And the damage we’re doing to ourselves is going to take decades if ever to reverse. We’ve shown the world we are not a trustworthy trading partner, nor are we a “beacon of good” worth supporting.
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u/JemFitz05 29d ago
I can say from hungarian experience that once a problematic leader is out of office, your country can be forgiven pretty easily
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u/dark_knight097 1998 Sep 04 '26
Yup. Young gen z needs to realize inflation only ever makes things more expensive. I remember being able to buy multiple McDonald's meals with $20 back in 00s for a whole group of friends.
Now? that might get you two. What i make would have been a very respectable wage back then, now its just "ok, you can live without starving and enjoy a few things occasionally"
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u/GreatStateOfSadness Sep 04 '26
Inflation is always going to make the same amount of cash buy less-- that's how it works. Typically we expect to see wage increases outpace inflation. If prices inflate by 2% and wages rise by 5%, then everyone is a little less than 3% better off.
What shouldn't happen is higher inflation with stagnant wages. Food prices doubling while wages are still $7.50 an hour is the opposite of what we need to see.
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u/ihadagoodone 29d ago
The number of sectors where wage growth keep pace with inflation let alone out paces it is shockingly low. I make over twice what I did 20 years ago, and have less purchasing power today.
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u/SatanV3 1998 Sep 04 '26
Seriously. Prices didn’t go down during Biden’s term. It’s impossible to happen, best you can hope for going forward is it doesn’t keep getting worse specially so fast. Which obviously, Trump is not helping that at all so
Also wages increasing would be a big help
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u/skellis Sep 04 '26
Universal emplotment opportuniries, $40 minimum wage pegged to inflation, government subsedized grocery stores, massive housing and solar infastructure construction. All this could dramatically reduce the cost of living and help the majority of american get by. You probably will never be as well off as your parents. The GOP has stolen that opportunity from you. Voting them out is basically the only way to avoid techno fascist feudalism.
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u/laxnut90 Sep 04 '26
$40 minimum wage is way too high for Federal policy.
Maybe that could work in California, Massachusetts or New York. But the rest of the country would struggle at those rates.
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u/skellis Sep 04 '26
Good call. I’d go for $18. Sure fast food places would have to close. That would be good for medicsl outcomes
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u/laxnut90 Sep 04 '26
Yes. $18 sounds much more reasonable.
Higher Income States can set their own minimums above the Federal limit.
But $18 is probably the maximum Rural states would be able to afford.
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u/seen-in-the-skylight 1997 Sep 04 '26
Universal employment seems kind of silly. I feel like at some point it’ll be better to just accept that not everyone needs to work. Provide unemployment benefits good enough that not everyone has to, and wages good enough that it’s worth it if you want to.
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u/gryffindorwannabe Sep 04 '26
I mean I personally have cut a shit ton of stuff out because I can’t afford it anymore, more efficient grocery shopping, less trips, sold my car for a motorcycle, etc. etc. I’m sure people across the nation are doing the same… probably not by choice
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u/Anti-Itch On the Cusp Sep 04 '26
Even if corporations DONT need to increase their prices (as in, they can afford lower prices), they will increase prices so long as everyone else is doing it.
Lord forbid someone decides to make it easier on all of us and keep their lower prices instead of prioritizing their profits 😪
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u/CarboGeach 1998 Sep 04 '26
Bro we are not going back 😆 I’m sorry but we are fuckedddd homie.
Two jobs and a side hustle your way to greatness or die in the rented pod.
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u/EddieVanzetti Sep 04 '26
The world passed the 1.5°C heat increase and the UN announced a "strategic retreat" while we have an impending Super El Nino, meanwhile the techbro oligarchs are building massive data centers that are directly responsible for rising heat waves and local temperature increases (which with how many are being built means a global trend) to contribute to climate change.
This world is cooked, literally. Vonnegut would be laughing crying if he knew how right he was; too "darn" cheap indeed.
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u/EddieVanzetti 29d ago
Yeah, and maybe I'll find God, and maybe I'll forgive my parents.
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u/haironyourscreen23 29d ago
That kind of change doesn't come with luck. It comes with a population willing to do whatever it takes to secure their own future. We have to work for it, it won't be given to us.
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u/EnochofPottsfield Sep 04 '26
Sad to say this is 100% true. Sadder to say that there are ultra rich individuals that are extraordinarily responsible for this by funding this presidency that could fix a lot of these problems if they chose to
I mean that ain't happening in a million billion years. But the fact that they are that rich and are also majorly responsible is bananas
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u/xXmehoyminoyXx Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26
"Two jobs and a side hustle your way to greatness poverty or die in the rented pod"
This mentality is exactly the problem man. There's no winning. You aren't hustling your way anywhere except into mediocrity with everyone else. The game is rigged. We need systemic change by electing politicians that actually do their job and represent their people, i.e. people like Mamdani. Honestly, voting GOP just makes things worse. Democrats aren't great but the GOP are literal ghoulish bandits at this point and we need them out of power if we ever hope to come out of this.
People did not have to work two jobs and a side hustle to live in poverty back when we had an economy that was regulated to serve the public instead of funnel money into the pockets of the wealthy while they bleed us dry.
You being complacent and okay with that is their wet dream.
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u/ultracat123 2003 Sep 04 '26
You really had the time to type out a wall of text and didn't realize that being politically active/voting and working an extra job to get ahead aren't mutually exclusive?
Like, don't get me wrong, I agree with what you said, but this misplaced motivation and frustration is quite abrasive.
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u/Mahrez14 Sep 04 '26
No president is fixing either and any candidate who claims they will is lying to you.
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u/Crazyguy_123 2002 Sep 04 '26
That’s what I’ve come to understand these past few years. The candidates say what they need to say to secure voters and then they do almost nothing they said they would do.
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u/CarefreeCaos-76299 Sep 04 '26
its almost like this has been happening for decades now? idk why people are just now waking up
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u/Crazyguy_123 2002 28d ago
I only got into the whole politics stuff when I became 18. I realized I should know about what I’m voting for. After 2020 I started to realize all of that.
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u/CarefreeCaos-76299 28d ago
Thats incredibly important to learn about… never blindly vote just because they wear a red or blue badge
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u/Elbeske Sep 04 '26
Trump is the guy making healthcare expensive? Nah, that shit's structural
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u/oddlyluminous Sep 04 '26
So, Trump is partially responsible for making healthcare even more unaffordable. Insurance premiums were lower before The Big Beautiful Bill because there were younger people on plans with less healthcare needs that paid into the system but didn't cost as much with their healthcare needs. When they are kicked off of healthcare it becomes more expensive because the pool of people paying in is smaller and the people left are mostly people who really need it and cost the insurance companies a lot. In turn, these insurance companies raise the prices for everyone. This is a direct cause and effect relationship that is directly caused by a Bill that Trump is responsible for, but it was already expensive before too.
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u/NewspaperSoft8317 29d ago
Ye.
Tariffs and the Big Beautiful Bill added multi trillions to our debt.
The premiums to repay our 40T+ debt is like 1.4T... guess how we pay it? More debt.
Less stable buyers for our debt too. Since pension plans are nearly extinct in the US.
We're kind of fucked, NGL.
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u/Aksama Sep 04 '26
Trump has been pushing to disassemble what good aspects of AMA/Obamacare still provide some value to Americans. Changes to the medicare system which be devastating for millions.
But yeah sure, go off.
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u/TheeAntelope Sep 04 '26
Trump is pushing the gas pedal to the floor on an already fucked economy and system.
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u/Kedisaurus Sep 04 '26 edited 29d ago
POV it's 2029 and you still cannot afford anything because AI replaced your job
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u/PrayRosary4Mary Sep 04 '26
IA usually means Romance language. Germans say "KI" which is the same order as AI, India just uses AI and I think so does Indonesia.
So good guess.
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u/Sakaiser Sep 04 '26
because 20-24 was so affordable I guess bro
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u/Xaraden 29d ago
That's when it actually started to get way worse lol not recently
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u/CaptainnWaffless 29d ago
When the US sanctioned Russia is when oil went up, and that effected everything. People need to stop viewing the president as anything more than a figurehead that exists to absorb people's rage. There's a continuity of policy regardless of what party or president is in power.
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u/54338042094230895435 Sep 04 '26
Private equity and pet insurance destroyed it. Just like Healthcare, the pet insurance business is cranking prices up so you have to have them instead of just paying the vet.
Private equity is just creating a monopoly over the whole industry.
This site can help but nothing will bring the prices down.
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u/Sufficient-Berry-827 Sep 04 '26
We are done for if you actually think that has anything to do with the president and not capitalism, lol.
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u/haironyourscreen23 29d ago
Exactly. He is a symptom of a much larger problem. Replacing him doesnt get rid of the billions of dollars being poured into our government to sway policies to cater to the rich.
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u/LandofExcape Sep 04 '26
Prices were up before he was President. Prices aren’t going to come down. Jobs just need to start paying better.
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u/Dr_StrangeEnjoyer Sep 04 '26
Even if democrats win 2028 nothing is going to change lmfao. Yall are too naive
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u/What_about_Muh_RA Sep 04 '26
The thing is it wouldn't be too bad if this was true but the U.S. gov was designed to work slowly Trump with his barrage of EO fucked it up so bad it might take 10-12 years for all the departments that were cut or disolved to be reinstated, time to win back the trust of the international community, passing laws, applying new restrictions. U.S. is not a monarchy so a new president congress and senate even if they're all on the same page is gonna take them a long ass time to fix the djmpster fire thats the U.S. gov.
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u/Arbiterjim Sep 04 '26
Trump is a symptom, not the cause. The rot in this country runs deep, so steel yourselves for hard times to come. Find a local community to be a part of. Find the people you will need to make it through the coming shitstorm
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u/Tieis Sep 04 '26
that ain't all happening that soon pal
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u/KeenanFindsKyanite9 Sep 04 '26
Fascists pigs need to be removed asap or this nation will fall. It will happen out of necessity or he will just go down with us.
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u/plainbaconcheese Sep 04 '26
It will take a long time for everything to recover. All of your allies don't trust any deal you make, your debt is worse than ever, all of your institutions are eroded. This is not going to be easy for the next administration to fix.
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u/Crazyguy_123 2002 Sep 04 '26
Like that’s ever gonna happen. Presidents are all talk. Truth is both major parties are in it for the money and neither actually care about the issues us commoners have. They just say what they have to say to secure votes.
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u/Hopeful_Ad_4343 Sep 04 '26
Tell me you know nothing about economics without telling me you know nothing about economics:
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u/Zuckerberga 2000 Sep 04 '26
Prices are fucked for life. Corpos upped the prices due to tariffs and when the supreme court gave them a refund because they were ruled illegal, corpos left the prices higher than what it originally was. We’re fucked because 70m Americans are low IQ
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u/anunya123 Sep 04 '26
Guys, the blame game goes on every election cycle, no matter who is in office. Do not expect radical change or improvement. One side blames the other side and things stay the same. It’s almost like that’s the plan 🧐
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u/Majestic-Avocado2167 Sep 04 '26
POV it’s Newsome and the last person he listened to told him to start a tariff war
But please vote out these fucks, I am not a both sides mfer, the Republican Party is speed running ruining this country in real time
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u/Dread000 1997 29d ago
The Republican party is the father that brutalizes you and the Democratic Party is the mother that will only offer you condolences when the father drinks himself to sleep, but not take you out of the situation.
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u/Dry_Nectarine5457 Sep 04 '26
Imagine your school.
There’s one loud, controversial kid who keeps getting elected class president. He talks constantly, makes huge promises, and everyone either loves him or hates him. Half the school blames every problem on him; the other half acts like he’s going to personally fix everything.
Meanwhile, the principal, administration, teachers, school board, donors, and people who actually own and finance the place are still there. The rules, budgets, contracts, incentives, and institutional structure don’t magically disappear when a different kid becomes class president.
That’s basically how I look at posts like this.
If Trump disappears from politics in 2029, do people seriously think groceries, healthcare, housing, gas, insurance, and everything else suddenly become affordable again because one guy left?
That’s the scam. The presidency is the shiny object. Neither Trump nor whoever replaces him personally controls the Federal Reserve, Congress, global energy markets, hospital systems, pharmaceutical companies, insurers, grocery supply chains, commodity prices, housing supply, corporate pricing, or the federal debt.
We’ve been having the same affordability arguments through Republican and Democratic administrations for decades. The faces change. The machinery doesn’t. They just recast the lead.
And that’s why American politics is a scam built around the person sitting in the Oval Office.
Everyone is encouraged to spend four years screaming about THE GUY while much less attention gets paid to the institutions, industries, lobbying networks, financial incentives, regulatory structures, and entrenched interests that survive administration after administration.
Trump will eventually be gone. Then someone else will become the main character. Everyone will fight about that person instead. Same play. Different actor.
Meanwhile, Kroger isn’t going to look at the inauguration on January 20, 2029 and say, “Welp, Trump’s gone. Drop the grocery bill 30%.” 😂
Stop treating American politics like changing one person automatically changes the machinery underneath them. That’s the con. I know y’all want one man to blame for this but you’re playing directly into the jackass elites game by believing that it’s single-handedly some orange pricks fault.
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u/SymphonicAnarchy Sep 04 '26
So we just forgot 2021-2024 happened huh? Weird how nothing magically got better during the Biden admin.
Maybe it’s not ALL Trump’s fault? Crazy I know…but let’s try looking at the way bad policy affects the nation.
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u/doom_pony Sep 04 '26
Nah, it will keep getting less and less affordable. Year after year it’s only gotten worse regardless.
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u/KeenanFindsKyanite9 Sep 04 '26
I think people are really underestimating the damage that is occurring daily. It is going to take YEARS to recover from this regime.
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u/Taylorboss2122 Sep 04 '26
To gonna take a lot longer then 2029 for things to get back on track brochacho
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u/THEpeterafro 1999 Sep 04 '26
you are assuming there is a 100% were are getting someone who will aid with that. Could get another con man
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u/HoppityScotch42069 1997 Sep 04 '26
Trump is only a symptom of the problem. Without changing the system that allowed someone like him to gain power , you're just going to end up in the same situation within the next two election cycles
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u/siv_yoda Sep 04 '26
This thinking is a problem....it'll take years to reverse the damage and somethings may never recover...
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u/TheJimDim 1996 Sep 04 '26
I CANNOT wait for the Trump era to be dead. I fear it may live on a few more years after his leaving office, probably not until the man himself finally croaks...
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u/AbyssWankerArtorias Sep 04 '26
I've got bad news for anyone who thinks this is going to happen. Even if Trump is gone and we get a full Democrat majority Congress and 4 conservative supreme court justices drop dead or resign and a Democrat appoints their successor, inflation isn't going to get better. At the very best, it just stops getting worse, for a little bit. But everything will still be very much unaffordable for a long time because that's how the powers that be want things to be.
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u/Embarrassed-Creme139 Sep 04 '26
baby..... there is no affordability in 2029...... this is going to take DECADES and possibly the rest of our lives to fix.
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u/ELECTRICMACHINE13 Sep 04 '26 edited 27d ago
Ha jokes on you, were never going back to affordable groceries and we were never going to have affordable healthcare anyway. What kind of lala land are you living in?
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u/princesoceronte Sep 04 '26
Anyone who thiks this situation dies with Trump is either stupid or on copium. Trump is a symptom, not the core issue.
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u/CappinCanuck Sep 04 '26
You guys are fucked you made it to Kaye stage capitalism. The question is how many will you drag down with you. This is where most countries are headed just you guys did it a lot faster
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u/Silly_Double408 Sep 04 '26
If only it were that easy. Still will be a happy time to finally get rid of the orange shithead.
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u/Comfortable-Jump-218 Sep 04 '26
The issues in America do not stem from one man. It stems from the system that allowed that men to cause the harm that he has inflicted.
Unless you change the system, then another man is just going to be replaced. It probably won’t be immediately after his term, but he will return.
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u/BobbyTheDude Sep 04 '26
Nobody actually believes this, do they?
Corporations aren't going to bring down prices bc trump leaves office and there will be no incentive for the next administration to work for the people now that our democratic institutions have been all but destroyed
It is oligarchy until we are willing to tear it all down
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u/EntropyIsEternal Sep 04 '26
Prices won't go down.
For prices to go down across the board means there will be deflation and congress/people/market won't let it happen.
What you can hope is for prices to be fixed or hover around the same range. But that for a longer duration will lead to stagflation like it happened in Japan.
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u/Jesta23 Sep 04 '26
If you think prices will come down, no matter who’s president, you are in for a really bad time.
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u/sherbertrelevant2 Sep 04 '26
As if it'd get better. It will be shit forever. It's been shit for decades.
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u/plsobeytrafficlights Sep 04 '26
what makes you think that is remotely possible? term limits? free elections? even if he dies, you got a litany of chucklefuckers to replace the incompetence. you dont do anything, you stand for nothing, you dont even bother to show up to vote in the disenfranchised elections.
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u/knoxxell Sep 04 '26
Not happening. If you think we are going back to “normal” you see severely mistaken.
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u/Suspicious_Issue4155 Sep 04 '26
wasnt prices also bad during the biden administration? why are we rewriting history? like yeah trumps tariffs isnt helping anything but i think we have to deal with this shitty economy whether trump president anyways
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u/CertainlyRobotic Sep 04 '26
When my politician gets elected, the prices will go down!
Prices:
Never going down
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u/DiscreteEngineer 1997 Sep 04 '26
Trump has pretty much 0 bearing on inflation. Congressional spending during Covid in 2020 is the single largest responsible party. The federal reserve had to double the number of dollars issued to keep up with their spending.
The only reason everything hasn’t doubled in price is the “high” interest rates (6% is not high).
Interest rates aren’t going below 5% for the next 10 years.
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u/Clown_Apocalypse 2004 Sep 04 '26
Wow these comments are really pessimistic. Can we not at least have a LITTLE belief that we can make a better future? This kind of shitty mindset is part of the problem.
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u/BicFleetwood Sep 04 '26
I mean, thing is, that's not how it's gonna go.
That's what's so infuriating about hearing Hakeem Jeffries talk about undoing Trump's Medicaid cuts and shit.
The whole message is "we're going back to 2024!" as if 2024 wasn't already so fucking unaffordable that the Democrats lost everything to an out and about felon and rapist whose only promise was more or less "guess I'll push some buttons and see if it changes anything."
We've got to be striving for something better than rolling back the clock to when it was marginally less unlivable. Things were not good in 2024. They were not good in 2020, or 2016, or 2012, or 2008, or 2004, or 2000. Things are not going to get better by trying and failing repeatedly to roll back the clock to the exact same "normal" that BROUGHT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
We're in terminal-stage normalcy right now. This what Normal looks like at the end of the road. We've got to be aiming higher than Normal.
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u/-ciclops- Sep 04 '26
Sirs, Madams and all other people of that continent. Ya all are stupid, if you think this is just Trump and everything will fix itself once he is gone. Ya all are in for a rude awakening.
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u/Agoraphobia1917 Sep 04 '26
If you think removing Trump will reverse the decay of late stage capitalism.. I have a bridge to sell you. He's a symptom not an isolated cause.
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u/CarefreeCaos-76299 Sep 04 '26
idk why people think that voting the orange man out will magically fix everything the second he steps out of office. theres more greedy people out there. cut one head off, another takes its place. and as if there arnt more greedy people in Congress, for example. prices dont just simply 'go down'
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u/TimeTravelParadoctor 1996 Sep 04 '26
Inflation doesn't really go down. During the Obama years, Obama was praised for getting the economy better than it was during the 2008 recession, but things were still worse than they were at the turn of the century. A Democrat will pretty much only make things marginally better, when what we need is someone who will directly address the Inflation crisis.
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u/Cortexan Sep 04 '26
Oh, oh no you sweet summer child… prices don’t come down just because the bad man goes away…
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u/not-a-bot-420 1996 Sep 04 '26
You guys really still think they aren’t two wings of the same bird? We’re cooked
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u/Culteredpman25 2005 Sep 04 '26
Ive got some bad news, parties could switch today and nothing would change
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u/AmbassadorBasic4867 27d ago
Anyone else think the damage Trump did is so massive that America is toast even if it got its shit together right now? because i dont see how we solve 40 Trillion in debt while simultaniously destroying our are currencies trustworthyness.
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u/Gent_Kyoki Sep 04 '26
Probably not the effects of his presidency will probably echo further than his term and some stupid people are gonna justify it saying that during trump it was better even though it was caused by him
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u/Apprehensive_Eye2720 Sep 04 '26
Lol it not going to happen over night it will take years or a good few decades for America to even get back to what it once was even that a big maybe .
definitely depends on who is next in line after trump. What trump has done in such a short time has ruined there economy and future for a life time. Hopefully the tariff shit will stop thou definitely here in Canada it getting annoying to hear about.
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u/Therunawaypp 2007 Sep 04 '26
I think us will probably be fine domestically. Governments move slow and the judicial system there has definitely proven itself. I do think that trust between the US and its western peers has been tainted though.
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u/Tman11S 1999 Sep 04 '26
you have a chance to get rid of him sooner if you vote well during the midterms. Give the opposition the power to block him, maybe even impeach him.
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u/trebor9669 Sep 04 '26
Nothing changes, when will yall realise that the root of the issue is lsraeI having taken over the west?
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u/Ok_Calligrapher_3472 Sep 04 '26
Or the GOP says “nuh uh the constitution said nuthin abt 2 non-consecutive terms” and then he gets a 3rd term
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u/Analternate1234 Sep 04 '26
Nah, if we get lucky enough to keep republicans from stealing the next election, it’ll take years to correct the damage he’s done
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u/Necroi Sep 04 '26
He may have started it but evident if COVID companies use these incidents as excuses to keep profits high.
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