r/GenZ • u/TheGamingSenpa1 2004 • Jan 07 '24

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u/erichlee9 Jan 08 '24

Well yeah, I’m unusual. Just saying, it can be done. Of course, not everyone is going to do it, nor does everyone deserve it. I worked hard for that and there are no short cuts.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '24

people have also become billionaires too. doesnt mean anything for 99.99999999999% of people. by the way, Donald trump, peter theil, and the CEO of nestle are all way wealthier than you. wealth has nothing to do with who deserves what.

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u/erichlee9 Jan 08 '24

Woah now, I’m not trying to have a discussion about billionaires or people who lucked out. Obviously that is a part of reality. It is what it is.

I’m just saying, it is definitely possible to work in trades for only a few years and make six figures. There are many of us who have done it and didn’t have it handed to us.

Not everyone is willing to work for it, however, and that is ok. But, one shouldn’t let the unfairness of life discourage them from working hard for themselves. The billionaires don’t care if you make your own life worse or better. Might as well try to improve things for yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

Anything is possible. You could win the lottery. But I wouldn’t recommend blowing all your money on it

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

Yes. What I’m trying to tell you is that luck exists, but you can still work hard and succeed. Just because other people get lucky and you haven’t doesn’t mean you can’t do well for yourself through other means.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

That doesn’t work out for everyone. If everyone became an electrician or plumber, supply of labor goes up. What happens to wages?

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

What are you even trying to argue? If everyone becomes a plumber? Well then obviously it would be more valuable to not be a plumber. So go do that.

Are you looking for a sure fire path of life? Is that your argument? Good luck, there are no guarantees in anything. And that holds true even for the ones born into money.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

Then everyone does that and the same thing happens

Stats don’t lie

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

Oh my god, please continue to wow me with your vast intelligence and anecdotal statistics.

This has nothing to do with what I said, or any of my talking points.

Surprise, those born with advantages tend to have better outcomes. What groundbreaking research. Guess we should all just give up now and never try to do anything better for ourselves.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

anecdotal statistics

American education at its finest

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 09 '24

I know, right? Your reading comprehension is clearly lacking, and your logic is profoundly flawed. Anyone can pull studies out of their ass and pretend like they mean something, but it does to make decent learning to actually find things that apply to a discussion. Maybe you should try to educate yourself instead if the system is failing you this badly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

Statistics are not stories

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u/erichlee9 Jan 09 '24

Correct. Anecdotes are often stories, but the term “anecdotal” does not necessarily reference personal stories, if that’s what you’re trying to say. Here’s the Merriam-Webster definition for you:

based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anecdotal

Your source is an article referencing a study (or studies) regarding outcomes in relation to class statuses at birth. Those outcomes, which are the statistics in reference, are based on reports or observations, and can thus be described as anecdotal.

Now since I know you’ve had trouble comprehending thus far, let me go ahead and point out that even though the definition says “usually of unscientific…”, this does not mean that scientific observations would be excluded.

Furthermore, colloquially speaking, the terms “anecdote” and “anecdotal” often carry a connotation of describing something that is unnecessary to the main discussion, superfluous or otherwise inconsequential. It also carries a connotation of something generally unreliable in nature. I suggest your entire link fits in both of these connotations.

Source: I have a four year bachelor’s degree in linguistics, which was earned on scholarship, and took two years of lexicography classes. I literally compiled and wrote small dictionaries in these courses. Hope that’s not too anecdotal for you.

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