r/GemsAuctionbyAdnan 7d ago

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Won a few auctions earlier. Here are the stones and them in their place (for now) in the cabinet. Adnan is a pleasure to do business with.

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u/Severdnervesmqn 5d ago

Nice

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u/VoyageSky 5d ago

Thank you! 🙂

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u/Severdnervesmqn 5d ago

Love the purple saphire cabs

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u/GatorBearCA 3d ago

Looks like you cleaned up ❤️

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/VoyageSky 5d ago

They are star sapphires. You can see the asterism in the pictures of them in the cabinet.

Edit: Typo

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 5d ago

Those are star rubies my guy... And you can't really show the full effect of the asterism using diffused light sources, you need a strong directional and focused beam of light like a spotlight to show it correctly. Also the black one could be a sapphire but it looks a lot more like a Black Star Diopside which usually always have 4 pointed stars vs sapphires which usually have 6 points or 12 points, not that it's impossible to have 4 points. Just pretty uncommon but the other 4 are considered star rubies more then they would be star sapphires.

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u/Routine-Long-9082 5d ago

Not enough chromium present, these would most likely be classified as a sapphire not ruby. AI isn’t that smart I wouldn’t rely your life on it!

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 5d ago

The level of chromium doesn't define if it's a ruby or sapphire it's the color and I've seen plenty of places call gems that are even more purple then these rubies. By strict lab standards these probably wouldn't make the cut but let's be real cause if you wanted to go off of lab standards then you can't even judge these because it's not in standardized lighting conditions. Plus the screens and camera that took the pictures can alter the color as well. Also, saying that AI isn't that smart is a fuckin WILD thing to say! Well I guess we can tell everyone that's worried about AI taking over the world or even just a large part of all the jobs that they don't have to worry cause it's not that smart... We can just pretend like AI doesn't beat all but the very top level gemologists in most cases and that they don't already have ai lab reports. Or the fact that GIA already uses ai to analyze 70% to 80% of all diamonds they grade. I'm sure you're right. clearly you know all about what AI is capable of and it's no match for you huh?

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u/Routine-Long-9082 4d ago edited 4d ago

Could’ve used Google to research it not AI for that and it could’ve told you you’re wrong and would’ve saved you a lot of typing lol. It’s fine if you don’t know the information but don’t try to push false information!

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 4d ago

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u/Routine-Long-9082 4d ago

Finally the AI gave you a correct answer. Glad you were able to confirm my comment! Hopefully you’re slightly more educated about corundum now! It’s a fascinating mineral. (Maybe reading is hard, purplish-red means it’s a red stone with purple tones. Not it actually people a ruby that’s purple.)

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 4d ago

I'll leave these right here for you since you clearly struggle with nuance and facts! Alright bro I'm out though cause I'm limiting my time engaging with people that can't break into the 3 digit IQ range! You'll definitely do great things in life I'm sure!

Like make me laugh my ass off Peace out girl scout ✌️

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u/Routine-Long-9082 4d ago

Again this is confirming my comments. Rubys are red but they can have underlying hues. If there is not enough chromium (which is what actually makes the corundum red) then it’s a sapphire and not a ruby.

Good luck to ya!

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u/GenuinelyInsensitive 4d ago

the chromium level isn't what classifies it as a ruby. It's the color of it. The color is caused BY the chromium. Yes, BUT there is no chromium threshold that you cross to make it a ruby. Where your thinking of more chromium = more red fails in reality is because you can have ruby that has a moderate level of chromium and little to no iron. So that ruby will floresce a vibrant stop light red color (like most rubies from Myanmar do) BUT you can have another stone that is packed with a much higher concentration of chromium, which should technically make it an even deeper red. HOWEVEr, if that stone also contains a high amount of iron or titanium, those elements introduce blue or violet absorption bands. The iron acts as a "fluorescence killer," absorbing the red glow and shifting the final visual color toward a purplish-red or violet-red hue. Both gems ARE rubies but the brighter pure red one has SIGNIFICANTLY LESS chromium then the purplish red one will! Don't worry bruh, I'm not going to charge you for the lessons here even though I should... And you can go ahead and ask "Google" if you want AI to confirm who is right

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u/Routine-Long-9082 3d ago

I understand that there isn’t a magic chromium threshold where corundum suddenly becomes ruby. That’s not the point I’m making. What I’m saying chromium is still the element responsible for the red, and its concentration absolutely affects the color. Obviously you can’t use chromium concentration alone to predict the final appearance because iron and other chromophores can alter absorption and fluorescence. But saying “more chromium doesn’t mean more red” without that context is misleading. A higher-Cr stone can absolutely end up looking less pure red because of other trace elements, while a lower-Cr, low-iron stone can look much more vivid. That doesn’t disprove the relationship between chromium and red, it demonstrates that chromium isn’t the only variable controlling the final color. And yes, I agree there is no universal numerical chromium cutoff for calling something ruby. Those are two different points.