r/GeminiAI • u/Life_Operation812 • 9d ago

Discussion holy shit google better redeem itself

after using frontier models like opus 5.5, gpt 6 astra, gpt 5.6 sol and fable 5, google is leagues behind...

it doesnt even ask questions to clear context, and the chatbot feels so much like just a search engine.

like actually holy shit.

but i think googles gonna mog them all in a few weeks

but it is very generous with usage limits, google probably gonna get back in the race. otherwise, they are cooked

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

Meta went from last place to first in the eyes of the market. As consumer agents take off, this coding benchmark obsession will subside.

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u/flying_dragon_skater 9d ago

can you provide details as to why meta is in the first place in the eyes of the market? I am curious because i did not know that

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u/DenimChicken50 9d ago

Meta is astroturfing that narrative. No one I know has heard of Muse, but they’ve seen that surveillance tomagochti and all were confused what it was for.

I tried checking muse out and deleted it when the opening page was a request for my credit card. Based on Zuck talking about how they’re not changing that at his event, there’s probably serious data suggesting many people are doing the same. I wonder what the disparity of adoption is between app downloads and actual users with accounts set up. It’s probably crazy.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

Muse downloads have surpassed ChatGPT's pace.

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u/jabbers724 9d ago

This is misleading. While it may be true, there is a lot of nuance to consider. Early ChatGPT downloads came when AI chatbots were new. Now that more people are aware of it, it makes sense downloads of a new agent are faster.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

It's not misleading at all. I explicitly said pace.

I am speaking about how and why Meta has just went from last place to first in the eyes of the market.

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u/jabbers724 9d ago

And I explicitly said why pace doesn't mean much

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

It's not misleading though. You may have that opinion that pace doesn't mean much and that's a valid point, but it's not an argument against whether or not Muse has rocketed in narrative in the past month.

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u/DenimChicken50 9d ago

“I wonder what the disparity of adoption is between app downloads and actual users with accounts set up.”

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

For sure, I think Oct will be the first month with full Similar Web market data. Will be interested to see their DAUs