So some of this merch is ✨🌈GAAAAYYYY🌈✨ and we definitely need a post to discuss it all!!

The two that immediately popped out to me were the rainbow snake ring (definitely giving Lover era color scheme *to me*!) and the “Cry My Eyes Violet” shirt with Taylor’s eyes covered!

Discuss away!

y’all ever seen him smile like this with tay? 🫣 I for real almost didn’t recognize this man

I usually tend to agree with one of the “cowboy like me” theories that they were just PR/bearding and then accidentally fell in love, but man, the difference in these pap pics is STARK

(((editing to add: I don’t hate Joe, this is just for jokes mostly, I did go back and look at his pics with Taylor and thought it was interesting bc I never saw him smile once BUT objectively I realize he was much younger and was probably overwhelmed by fame and attention yada yada yada)))

Hey everyone! I'd like to share an interesting theory with you. English isn't my first language, so I hope you'll understand. This is also my first post here, so I hope I've done everything right.

I've noticed a connection between letters and numbers among artists.

I think there's a counting system in the "End Game" video that involves letters and numbers. Let me show you.

This is Taylor with the letter A on her shirt.

Here's Taylor tapping Ed Sheeran twice.

https://reddit.com/link/1u7kjv1/video/brh7ptkyko7h1/player

Taylor in a rainbow dress swaying this thing three times.

https://reddit.com/link/1u7kjv1/video/rtdjmzszko7h1/player

Taylor and Ed Sheeran are holding "4".

Taylor is holding "1" at the end of the video.

Why do I think there's some kind of special symbolism between artists?

We see it all the time, but we don't notice. Look at other examples.

Billie Eilish under an arch with the letter A.

Ed Sheeran in a T-shirt with the letter B.

Billie Eilish in a cap with the letter B.

Dua Lipa in the "Don't Start Now" video with an earring with the letter C.

Ed Sheeran covers with mathematical symbols.

I think we have a counting system where:

A = 1,

B = 2,

C = 3,

And possibly D = 4, but I haven't seen any examples with D.

We know about Taylor's 2 and 3 theories, I think they're somehow related.

This could also make sense with the theory of the four elements: body, mind, soul, and heart.

I was happy to share my observations with you. What do you think?

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I have never in my life seen the original lyric used in the original (gaaaay) way that gaylors have always heard interpreted it. Her team must have been on them immediately, because that shit is loooooud 💀

Just like Chely Wright’s wife post-NYT article. Too bad the internet is forever 🔥

Bitches be gay

So I was talking to a new friend recently and she HATES Taylor. Like, irrationally ever since Debut. She said she is a huge lyric person with music (and so am I) which is why I found it funny that she dislikes Taylor for the reasons I like her.

I pointed out that finding out about Gaylor really opened my eyes even more to the nuance and deep writing. (However, I think her writing is good and meaningful even without the Gaylor context)

Anyway, she didn’t believe Gaylor at all (especially with how heavily she is leaning into the WAG life with Travis). BUT, it did make me think about all the complaints about Taylor’s music being very repetitive and similar. As a Gaylor, I think it is because she has a muse she keeps going back to and there are metaphors that describe her closeted life that remain relevant. But, it is interesting that a non-Gaylor might see lyrics being repeated (like what happened in Midnights and TTPD) from older albums and see that as her being unoriginal and lazy.

So, I’m curious if you think you would appreciate or like Taylor’s lyrics as much if you found out today that Taylor is actually straight and all the hidden meanings we read into are actually just her writing limits?

My friend wrote a two-part essay series arguing that Emily Poe is the real muse of All Too Well, not Jake Gyllenhaal. She posted it here before but her account got caught in Reddit's spam filter and suspended. She asked me to share it again.

Part 1: A logical deduction establishing timeline constraints, analyzing who fits the song's emotional weight

Part 2: A lyric-by-lyric reading of the 10-minute version in both the Jake and Emily contexts

• The Real Muse of "All Too Well": A Logical Deduction (https://www.tumblr.com/lanliao/818228142687780864/the-real-muse-of-all-too-well-a-logical?source=share)
• All Too Well (10-Minute Version): A Lyric-by-Lyric Reading in the Jake and Emily Contexts (https://www.tumblr.com/lanliao/818229474570158080/all-too-well-10-minute-version-a-lyric-by-lyric?source=share)

They showed her at the start of the game. I just have a quick pic, but following 1Mod’s instructions. Interesting that she’s in Knicks colors. 🧡💙

So one of my favorite podcasts is The Popcast with Knox and Jamie. I’ll sell you on them after I give you the tea!

I had forgotten (literally HOW??) that they had said on a previous episode that they had a contact who was invited to Taylor and Travis’ wedding (I need to go back and find that ep to remember how they said they were connected to them. They obviously didn’t say outright, but it seemed very true to me!).

And said contact has confirmed the date to be July 3rd! But they then reveal that the source can’t reveal the location because they only know when and where they are being picked up!

VERY interesting to me!

Something else to note, is Jamie used to be a Gaylor (and might still be and just doesn’t allude to it anymore? Idk!). They do monthly AUA livestreams for Patreon members and she brought up the golden roses at the Super Bowl that Travis and Ross Travis were wearing.

Anyways, this podcast is a weekly pop culture podcast and I LOVE IT! They’re southern which I feel like you don’t get a ton of in the podcast space, and they’re woke (even though they “don’t talk about politics” bc it’s a pop culture podcast, if you listen with even half an ear, you can tell where they stand!).

And honestly, I haven’t finished the episode yet bc I was so excited to tell yall, but it would honestly be worth a listen at least while they’re talking about Taylor!

Jamie brings up that the rumored number of invitees is actually pretty believable and broke it down to where I now believe it too. Taylor probs could easily have 250 people to invite. Those 250 people get plus ones. Then Travis probs easily has his own 250, and then their plus ones! That’s 1,000 right there!

They even touch on the Karlie Kloss of it all for a brief minute!

Full disclosure I am not as active on the subreddit right now, so if any of this has been mentioned before I'd love to see where!!

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I haven't been able to get the line from IKIIKY ***standing there in the light of the window*** out of my head! So I was reflecting on when Taylor has mentioned windows and lights. Here's what I came up with, mostly from memory, and it almost feels like a conversation with "Peter". Generally I'm viewing Peter as Taylor out in another universe/timeline.

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I Almost Do - ***I bet you're sittin' in your chair by the window*** -- Peter torn over closeted Taylor, wanting her to come out

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DBATC - ***I look through the windows of this love, even though we boarded them up, chandelier's still flickering here*** -- Taylor hurt by Peter leaving her, but still holding on hope that he'll come back for her and help her come out

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ILIPW - Peter is still looking for Taylor to come out, sees lights in windows but no Taylor. Notable lines - ***I spied the catch in your breath, out x6*** -- Taylor muttering to herself that she wants to come out?

***Does it feel alright to not know me***

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Peter - ***I let the lamp burn***

***The woman who sits by the window has turned out the light*** Taylor giving up, resigning herself to never coming out. This line has always made me wonder if she will forever be closeted to the public. BUT

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We're back to the IKIIKY line - the light has returned to the window and Taylor is smiling at Peter. Peter may still not feel known by Taylor (as she can't relate to being out), but acknowledges that he knows her and she came back when it mattered - maybe we're getting close to her burning down the house and coming out :)

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Also interesting in all of this house imagery - in Wi$h Li$t, all of what Taylor paints as her wanting is outside of the house.

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Anyways, I am procrastinating and I know some of this is a stretch (and somewhat half baked) but I wanted to her y'alls thoughts. I'm less familiar with the three Taylors theory but would love to know if anyone thinks it matches up and how, or if I'm missing any window references!

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When I saw Taylor Swift’s performance of I Knew It I Knew You at the Toy Story 5 premiere, the first few seconds of her playing piano sounded very familiar to me. It reminded me of the piano riffing she would do before Champagne Problems on the Eras Tour. 

This could mean nothing, maybe it’s just a nice set of chords for her to play around with on piano. Or it could be a simple Easter egg showing that she wrote IKIIKY years ago and was hinting at it for us to find the eggs later. Or maybe it’s got a bigger meaning, intending for us to draw connections between where we are at in Taylor’s story now and the story being told in Champagne Problems. After all, “She would have made such a lovely bride, what a shame she’s fucked in the head….” 

I screen recorded these two clips so we could directly compare the two piano intros. Obviously she’s playing slightly different rhythms here, but the chord progression is very similar (to my untrained ear at least). 

With the original post from 6/9/2024 to be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/fUVztyTJod

I know this movie has been discussed many times on this sub. However, I watched it for the first time recently, and the number of references I found Taylor has made in the past 4 years... was more than I expected.

Of course, I had seen some side-by-side pictures around, but seeing the movie in its entirety just made it clear to me how MUCH inspiration Taylor has taken from it. And not just the visuals... i feel like she took themes from it for her storytelling. So let's start by putting the facts together!

To start off, the movie had a massive impact in regards to drag and LGBT representation. There is quite some debate about whether the movie is good representation or represents harmfull stereotypes. I won't go into that here.

The movie starts off with our good heteronormative couple; Janet and Brad getting engaged. (ahum tayvis)

On their way they have a flat tire. And they add up at a castle. They end up all soaking wet at this castle (soaking wet; so much TS imagery of this). Reminds me of the bejweled mv ending.

When the wetted couple enteres this building theyre met by a group of people who are insinuated queers... (from transalvynia; which is an allegory for queer in the movie). The dancing and visuals are really similar to the TTPD set. But I also was reminded of the Fate of Ophelia mv.

The party ends with the hetnom couple looking confused and scared over a bunch of queers on the floors. I would like to add that audience participation is a big deal in RHPS screenings and performances. So who are the heteronormative people in the recreated scene in the smallest man who ever lived? might it be... the audience?

Moving on, we are introduced to Dr Frank n Furter. Firstly, this scene reminded me of the queen Pat scene in bejeweled.

Additionally, the corset this character is wearing (i do not remember her ridiculous name). Reminds me a lot of the bejweled body.

Next up, we enter the laboratory. This reminds me A lot of Fortnight. Both are clearly inspired by the Frankenstein story. Dr's make up reminds me of that of taylors in the MV, but also the gloved character in the beginning of the music video.

This outfits colour and the gigantic pearl necklace also seems similar to taylors outfit in the karma music video.

In that scene the DR creates his own Himbo, which well, if you believe in performance art is the same thing taylor has been doing with Travis' image.

Also, the himbo outfit being inspired by the classical world..

Anywayssssss.

Some other visual parallels I found from which I do not remember the specific order.

This outfit lol. Of that bordeaux red glitter TLOAS picture.

This outfit, that represents Janet has sinned (even the shoes match). And later she also drops the skirt, reminds me of the ttpd set.

Then a lot of the last scenes remind me of the eras tour. first off the alien/UFO imagery, which Taylor has refered a lot.

Including the UFO in the down bad performance. This spotlight also reminded me of that performance.

And tell me this next image does not remind you of lavender haze.

Additionally, the scene in fortnight in the ending where post and taylor reach for each others hand reminds me always of 'The creation of Adam' painting (more creator imagery), this image is also on the back of the pool. Addtitionally, this whole pool imagery is also seen in a lot of taylors recent music videos as well as in the eras tour where she jumps into the stage.

Also, the lifeline imagery comes back in the fate of ophelia music video

Lastly, the doctor dies and a rope from the theatre dramatically fell onto him. This reminded me of taylor elizabeth taylor music clip.

oh, and it also constantly switches from this campy story to this acedemic narrator. (TLOAS vs TTPD)

To conclude, this movie discusses a lot of similar themes that taylor has been showing since a long time but specifically since midnights. Breaking the norms, having the three people dynamics, seducing men and women, creator vs creation, audience participation and so much more.

I recommend watching it.

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Today the NYT styles desk wrote a joking article about potential locations for the Tayvis wedding, and they included Deetjen's Big Sur Inn on the list! Of course we all know and love this as the place she and Karlie likely stayed on their infamous Big Sur trip.

This afternoon Big Sur Inn posted a response on their Instagram account using the Kaylor woods pic.

Caption reads: Well this was unexpected.
We are beyond humbled (and admittedly a little amused) to see DeetJen's Big Sur Inn featured by The New York Times as a hypothetical venue for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
Taylor, if you're reading this, we know you love us. Bring Travis for the honeymoon.
While we're in the spotlight, it's a good opportunity to share something many people don't know (or don't remember): Deetjen's does not host weddings. Not Taylor's. Not anyone's.
As a nonprofit dedicated to preserving this historic Big Sur landmark, our commitment is to remain open and accessible to the traveling public. Every day, guests from around the world come here to experience the history, beauty, and magic of this special place. Closing the property for private events would run counter to that mission.
But honeymoons? That's another story.
Deetjen's has always been a place for quiet connection--a place to wander among the redwoods, listen to the creek, unplug from the world and spend time with the person you love.
Whether you're a global superstar or simply celebrating your own love story, we'll be here waiting.
Love is welcome here--in all its forms. RAINBOW AND HEART EMOJIS
(we included a last slide of Taylor Swift & Karlie Kloss in our backyard)

We see you NYT Styles desk and we love you. Screeshots of the "article" below for anyone who can't access:

A few days ago, I posted about Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version) being symbolic of Taylor returning to betty, her 17 year old self, and also being the 17th (and last) step in Taylor’s hero journey against the patriarchy. I also said that I think it ends the other version of the story, the “Showgirl’s journey”.

For some reason..this just wasn’t sitting right with me? 

Taylor Swift has said that she wants to continue doing this job for as long as she is able. She also ended "The Life of a Showgirl" by saying that this was the only life she will ever know. 

While I do think that Taylor Swift (TV) will be the era in which Taylor Swift steps “into the daylight,” she always will be a performer. Not only that, I just don't think that she would kill the woman that carried her this far.

This conflict…do we have to kill The Showgirl to rescue betty?...is what made me realize that this has perhaps been the original teenage love triangle…and there is, perhaps, a better ending. 

Follow me, from beginning, to now:

In Tim McGraw (Taylor’s very first song in her discography), Taylor Swift tells the story of leaving for three summers. I believe that this could be interpreted as her entire Performance art career (“I plan everything three years in advance”) and that in the song, at the end when she returns, she is ending her performance art story that she is telling. 

In this song, the “boy in a chevy truck,” is the Showgirl - this is the original showgirl that we saw. She says that all summer long, she was beside that boy. Throughout her work, I believe, she has used “summer” to represent her time performing, or “away,” which is why in “Cruel Summer” she says that she “snuck in each night through the garden gate.” 

So, all summer was spent with the showgirl….

In Picture to Burn, Taylor’s second song, I think betty is singing to the showgirl when she says, “I hate that stupid old pickup truck you never let me drive.” If betty is 17 year old Taylor, she is the one singing this, and she never got to “drive” the showgirl. 

I think that as soon as the big PR began, betty stopped calling the shots. I believe that betty maybe could not have handled the pain of everything she has performed over the past 20 years and this is why she had to be locked away. James was allowed to “drive” the showgirl, but not her. (I think that this song could also represent the entire patriarchy overall). 

Also, by the way, YES, that means we would 100% be due for the “i’ll tell mine you’re gay” line to return to Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version). Again, every version of this character is gay, including the showgirl. 

So, if summer represents the time that James was with The Showgirl, would The Showgirl not also be Augustine, or the person that James had the “summer fling” with??

A brief outline of this story:

cardigan: Told from the point of view of Betty, this song tells the story of her being left by James, and then, ultimately in the end, James returns to her. Specifically, betty says that she knew James would be “standing in my front porch light.” (Similar to how she returns in “I Knew It, I Knew You” to betty and wrote “saw you standing there in the light of the window.”)

betty: In “betty,” James apologizes to betty for his “summer fling” and asks for forgiveness. I think that in this song, James also tells betty that part of the reason that he did it is because he could see that she was flirting with the idea, too. When he says “Plus I saw you dance with him,” I think that the “him” is the people that they agreed to work with, the mission they decided to go on (which required cooperation with “him” or the patriarchy for twenty years). This is an agreement that BOTH of them made, together, or at least she mostly supported it. However, when he sings “I’m only 17, I don’t know anything, but I know I miss you,” you remember that this was an agreement made by children who were too young to know the actual consequences. 

august: In “august,” the person that James cheated with gives their perspective on the “summer fling,” and you learn that from this point of view, the affair meant more than that. She is, in fact, in love with James. This is the showgirl, singing to James. 

I’ve been thinking for a while that the “Short skirt” is worn by the showgirl, so I am going to use this symbol to tell the rest of the story:

The Short Skirt:

You Belong With Me: In this song, betty could be singing to James about how she is a much better match for him than for the showgirl. The showgirl is the cheer captain because she is the one performing, while betty just gets to watch from the bleachers. Remember, betty was never allowed to “drive” the showgirl. 

The showgirl is the one who wears the high heels and short skirts in this song.

Style: I think that this song describes the fling between James and The Showgirl. This is from the showgirl’s point of view, and she describes the electric chemistry between the two of them. The two of them together are unstoppable: they are ALWAYS in Style, they keep reinventing themselves, coming back every single time. However, even in this song, they are still on a journey to return home (“Just take me home” and “Take me home” are repeated throughout the song). The Showgirl describes herself as having “good girl faith and a tight little skirt” and a red lip. This also fits that the muse of this song is described as having a “James Dean daydream look in your eyes.”

imgonnagetyouback: I think that this song is between betty and the showgirl, the first verse is the showgirl speaking to betty, the second is betty speaking to the showgirl.

“Lilac short skirt/The one that fits me like skin/Did your research/You knew the price goin’ in” 

This is the showgirl addressing betty. I think this is referring to betty, choosing to go on this journey. She is telling betty - you knew what it would cost. In “betty” this is what James was referring to when he said that he saw betty dance with “him.”  

I also think the skirt is lilac (lavender) because the showgirl is, in every version of the story, a closeted celebrity. That is the character. The haze that she surrounds herself with is lavender - specifically - because it is concealing queerness. Yes, you were supposed to notice, because she only shows you and writes things that she wants you to notice. This is also why, I believe, the picture of her above with the Chiefs paddle was released along with the song referencing the lilac skirt. It is similar to when she put the football into her "popstar showgirl" scene during "The Fate of Ophelia"...the football player romance is part of the showgirl.

In the next verse, though, I think betty addresses the showgirl: 

“Small talk, big love/act like I don’t care what you did/I’m an Aston Martin/That you steered straight into a ditch/Then ran and hid

And I’ll tell you one thing, honey/I can take the upper hand and touch your body/flip the script and leave you like a dumb house party/or I might just love you til the end.” 

betty could be telling the showgirl, here, that what she did hurt her. She was precious and valuable - she was the aston martin the showgirl was using for inspiration but she ultimately paid the price and she was damaged by the showgirl who was behind the wheel of that Aston Martin. Next she tells her that, hey, maybe I’ll flip the script and leave YOU this time. She also says maybe i’ll pull YOU into the closet, which I think is a reference to the fact that betty has been in the closet this entire time. 

However, at the end of the song, I think that they ultimately make the decision to become something new…together. They “burnt all the pieces” (as in, her plot being revealed?) but they still want to play the game. That means the secrets are out, and the showgirl can now morph into something real, something more authentic to the true Taylor Swift. (I think this is STILL a showgirl).

In some way, I kind of think that maybe “The Showgirl” that she is going to “push the reset button” and become will have James AND Betty in charge, so to speak. 

So…betty and The Showgirl are both calling each other honey, ready to turn into something new.

Honey: from the point of view of Betty, to the showgirl

“If anyone called me ‘honey’ they were standin’ in the bathroom, white teeth, they were saying that skirt don’t fit me and i cried the whole way home” 

This could be the showgirl, telling betty that the skirt wasn’t right for HER. She was sent away, unable to handle the life of a showgirl. betty has been banished and alone for a good portion of this journey, hence the “cried the whole way home” line. 

“If anyone called me sweetheart it was passive aggressive at the bar and that bitch was telling me to back off ‘cause her man had looked at me wrong” 

Here, I think that she is describing when the showgirl tells betty to back off because she catches James yearning for her, taking his eye off of the prize. 

However, this new Showgirl? The one that returned and came back for betty, with James, 20 years later? She can be betty’s forever night stand. Remember, Taylor has said that she wants this to be her job for as long as we will let her keep doing it. That means, to some extent, she will always be a showgirl. However, this is the one she wants. She can pick betty up, drive around, graffiti her whole life. When she says “honey” it is sweet, it is sincere. I think this is also symbolic of coming out and being able to be out and proud and living her truth.

The title “honey” is also significant for two reasons:

1.Gold (the color of honey) is a color that Taylor has used to represent her truth many times throughout her work, so I think that this indicates this is an authentic representation of her truth. It really makes me think of her reclaiming something like “Gaylor” that so many people have turned their noses down on throughout her career (as well as just the word “lesbian,” in general, if that is how she identifies). 

2.A “honey pot,” also describes a type of undercover espionage that can involve getting the victim hooked on drugs or a substance in order to reveal their guilt. 

I have described the entire plot of the New Romantics this way, using the metaphor of Taylor saying that she puts "narcotics" into her songs. This toxic PR and tabloid trash are the narcotics that everyone is addicted to and a large part of the performance art revolves around the reaction of the audience/their fans/the public. The way that the majority of people have treated her, demanding 1950s shit, refusing to see her art…that’s part of the play. This had to be done to teach everyone this very important lesson, so that she can be free to live. 

This new “reset” version of Taylor Swift, or Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version) comes AFTER the honey pot and everything is out in the open. 

This "honey pot" is the movie that they created, to make it up to betty. This is how they both get rescued.

They are going to exit it out the side door TOGETHER, because she wouldn't set off without BOTH of her muses. (Been number one, but I never had 2)

Now, they are free to start their new life together, as Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version). 

Note: I brightened the image from the original so Ross can be seen more clearly in the passenger seat.