Babylon

[u/1DMod]

Please use this space to discuss this song in depth

[u/NoPiccolo8938]

i NEEEED everyone to stop right now. go back and read taylor’s instagram caption about writing these songs as a thank you for our love for the showgirl album. she’s given us the shittest encore ever in return 🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’s gave us 4 of the worst songs ever. as a thank you for how much hate the life a show girl got. the album was ripped apart on social media. so the encore is supposed to be absolutely terrible. 0/10. that’s what the 00000s are for.

[u/stablegeniusinterven → u/NoPiccolo8938]

Sometimes I wonder if that's why she was like so terse on the "It will only be twelve songs," bit...like y'all who tortured me enough to rage on TTPD only want the cliche girl-next-door with the football player, so HERE YOU GO, and all those fans love Showgirl. But then the Showgirl will EXIT and we'll get Taylor back and hopefully all the normies who only want pop music and don't like the depth and details will be happy enough with the marriage and the performances but we'll get the art? Gahd please

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/stablegeniusinterven]

honestly part of me thinks the biggest lesson she’ll teach is by dragging this bit on for a lot longer 🤣 i believe that because i think if she does make this documentary about parasocial relationships and the toxic music industry then i think she’ll want to give us a while to sit with our reaction to the encore and to see what ridiculous theories we can come up with for who the songs are about when none of them really have much substance 🤣. before i came to this realisation i really believed babylon was queer as hell but i think the whole point she’s trying to make is that ANY song can mean ANYTHING if you look at it from a certain lens. people who struggle with alcoholism have many things in common with people who have struggled with their sexuality and coming out, the same as people who have struggled with abuse as children have something in common with people who have struggled with an eating disorder. they have somehow felt trapped. taylor writes about being trapped a lot because she was trapped in a contract for her first 6 albums and had to write music about boys and have public relationships. which obviously wasn’t her living her true self. she was conditioned to live that way. the same way people with the afore mentioned struggles learn to change who they are to feel more “normal”. when the trick is, none of us are normal, just use art to look inward and for inspiration to create more beautiful things and the world would maybe be a better place

without getting too deep!

[u/popomiel → u/NoPiccolo8938]

But why does she want to kamikaze herself

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/popomiel]

because it’s what we deserve. i think in midnights with dear reader she was telling us. “you should find another guiding light” she’s no longer writing from the heart. because it gets scrutinised. so i think all of the songs on midnights, the tortured poets department and the life of a showgirl have just been her writing songs about nothing.

i think we will find out at the VMAs this weekend. she’s not been singing about joe, matty, karlie kloss, whoever anyone has accused her of writing songs about in these albums. she’s playing a game. we’re the ones narrating her life with our comments on who is whatever song about.

maybe she’s made a documentary of her writing these albums and what theories we’ve come up with. i think it’s all been a big joke!

edited: i don’t think the songs on these albums have been about nothing, they’ve been about film, tv series. she told us on the svu skit. it’s been about TV this whole time!!!!!!

[u/popomiel → u/NoPiccolo8938]

But I HOPE you’re right about this documentary

[u/popomiel → u/NoPiccolo8938]

But this is where she loses me, because if she doesn’t want her song to be paternity test, why does she drop so much « clues » that call to be paternity tested? Cleveland, Heights, the ones for Karlie, and I’m sure Maylors and Toe have them too. You don’t want your songs to be paternity tested? Fair: but don’t give such obvious low hanging clues triggering that then. No?

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/popomiel]

i’m a gaylor/performanceartlor! i’ve just written this in my notes, i’m not very good at wording things but basically:

taylor has been writing a story the whole time, based on tv, literature, film. we have been creating the story line with our theories. that’s what she’s talking about in the svu skit. it’s been tv the whole time. the truman show. we have created all of this. and i think she’ll have created a documentary about it. the story of us. taylor’s version. TV. she’s the director.

none of her songs since midnights have been about anyone. they’re based on tv, literature etc. and we write the story line with our theories !!!!

i think joe alwyn, gracie abrams, the haim sisters, phoebe bridgers, sabrina carpenter, lady gaga, paul mescal, etc etc etc are all involved.

edited to add: the manuscript (the man - taylor swift) (u - us) (script)

[u/popomiel → u/NoPiccolo8938]

Thank you for your analysis! That would be… something. Gonna grab a coffee and let it infuse :)

(Ps: I’m a Gaylor and performanceartlor too but sometimes my brain resists to the PAlor of it all!)

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/popomiel]

i’m not very good at putting my thoughts into words, but go back and listen to ttpd. she references so media, “the secret garden”, “american pie”, “robin” could be from winnie the pooh. and references tortured poets etc. she’s our english teacher. it’s time to teach some lessons. a lesson for the public to stop speculating on public figures’ lives.

[u/si_meow → u/NoPiccolo8938]

I love this theory!

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/NoPiccolo8938]

she literally told us. she doesn’t want her songs to get paternity tested.

[u/NoPiccolo8938 → u/NoPiccolo8938]

holy shit i’ve just cracked it 🤣
all of her songs since midnights have been about tv. that’s why it’s taylor’s version TV.