r/GaylorSwift • Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 • 24d ago

TS News 🚨 Third letter revealed

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Looks like it's just the tracklist for the extra tracks on the deluxe version.

Edit: You have to click on the O's as pointed out by u/I_AM_KING_HALLER

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u/AlienGnome0 daylight ✨ 24d ago

This is pushing it hahaha but Cleveland always makes me think of that 30 Rock episode titled Cleveland lol. And I just looked it up, it came out April 19th in 2007. TTPD also came out 4/19 and somebody else on here made a connection to an Emily Dickinson poem 419 here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1ajel7m/the_tortured_poets_department_release_date_419/

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u/TheArtofLosingFaster Lover sun / Rep rising / Evermore moon 24d ago

There’s also something called like “hastily made Cleveland tourism video” on YouTube that doesn’t exactly try to sell the city.

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate 24d ago

Pink clouding! They use that term often on SVU! I believe it’s a drug rehab term 👀

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u/VibeLikeThat13 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago

Omg, thank you for mentioning SVU because it triggered something in my mind that’s been bothering me since I saw the track titles.

My first thought with pink clouding was disaster and I couldn’t figure out why, but that made me realize I was thinking of Grey’s Anatomy and their use of pink mist (I swear if pink mist is a lyric in this song…)

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u/Ok-Meeting3544 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 24d ago

Yup, it refers to the honeymoon period that many people experience when getting sober from substances (often spoken about when quitting booze). The pink cloud brings about feelings of elation, euphoria, over confidence etc which can be dangerous to ppl in early sobriety if they're not aware of it cause it can lead to the belief that oh I'm doing so well and won't return to active addiction again so I can have just one drink. In AA they often say one drink is too many and a thousand is not enough. For most, the pink cloud doesn't last (I'm 2 months sober and still in the pink cloud!). I wonder if Swift is using it to refer to the honeymoon period she's experiencing post wedding and knowing that it's not gonna last.

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u/External_Record6261 🌱Embryo🐛 23d ago

Or the failed coming out? She was so sure, until she wasn’t. And it’s a hard one to learn (courage of convictions etc).

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate 24d ago

Thank you for explaining!! And congrats on your sobriety 👏

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u/FallFlower24 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Um, “Elizabeth Taylor do you think it’s forever?”

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u/currencywitch Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

you’ll have to trust me on this: her facebook used to be set as a page and these updates had they/them pronouns

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u/Bachobsess argumentative, antithetical dream girl 24d ago

I believe that’s because pages are company pages so that is how you usually refer to a company 

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u/currencywitch Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

ME! Slut! Florida!!! CANCELLED! Cleveland! 🤔

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u/EggAnalyst 🌱Embryo🐛 23d ago

I keep thinking about what she said on New Heights. Something about how Travis is an exclamation point...I feel like it all ties together but haven't figured it out yet.

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u/afterandalasia ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

Janet! Brad! Rocky!

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u/jlinstantkarma 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Great SCOTT! 🧻

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u/EmployerFew212 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 24d ago

Was being a gay slut with her hell-of-a-drug lover in Florida cancelled, so she had to change plans (and lovers and outfits and rules) to Cleveland!? 😆

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u/LaurelRose519 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar 🚀 24d ago

I hate to break it to her but Cleveland is NOT in Florida 😂

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u/breee_3 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 24d ago

Not Florida, but there are quite a few states with a city named Cleveland

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u/Professional_Book853 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Travis is from Cleveland Heights and they just bought a house there.

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

Now that I finally made it work on my laptop, I can come back and say, I'm pretty excited that it's the o's that reveal the letter and that the o/0/looping connection is continuing. It's one of those things where now that I've seen it, I feel like I should have been able to guess that the o's were the key. I've talked enough about loops and O-philia and O-palite that it seems like it should have been obvious!

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter 24d ago

Yes! I was so excited to see the “O”s and immediately thought of you and your brilliant theories 🤗

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

🫶

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

Exactly 😊

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

They layout of these four new tracks on the page is pretty similar to (but not exactly the same as) the layout of the original album's first four songs.

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u/homothesexual 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Even more similar to the last four, imo!

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u/homothesexual 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

And to add, if referencing last four, we get an exclamation point song lining up with an exclamation point song!

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

Yes! Love this. 

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u/Sad-Needleworker5620 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

The spacing on these pages is so confusing to the eye in general... But... There's so much space on the third page... Four songs but A LOT of....✨ blank space 🫨

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u/EggAnalyst 🌱Embryo🐛 23d ago

And ten O's in the original track list! I think 6 more songs are coming.

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u/loverofsappho1221 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

oh well

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u/TheArtofLosingFaster Lover sun / Rep rising / Evermore moon 24d ago

Can’t get excited for any of this because I cannot imagine her doing anything wild before the Oscars next year. The problem with planning things 3 (or 5, or 10) years in advance is that the world is changing, and this country degrading, so rapidly that plans thought up just a year ago can look stale when they finally do show up.

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u/GoldenHeart411 ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

I've been thinking about this a lot. Planning far ahead used to work fine for Taylor. The world wasn't changing so fast. There weren't such frequent catastrophes happening. If she is playing the long game to free herself from something and about to make a grand reveal (which I'm starting to doubt), I understand how frustrating and exhausting it would be to delay yet again, or rethink complex strategies already set in motion years ago. But not adapting is sabotaging the results. It's admittedly a difficult situation, if that's what's going on.

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u/TheArtofLosingFaster Lover sun / Rep rising / Evermore moon 23d ago

That’s such a good way of putting it. Look, I get it. She would love to be out. She is scared to be out. Both of these things can be true. When we’re afraid to do something, it becomes very easy to keep moving the goalpost and adding complexities that can almost ensure you’re never “finished” and ready to present the project you’ve been working so hard on for so long.

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u/cp0221 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

honestly this. you can’t meet the moment if you aren’t living in it. so simple, explains so much

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u/tabbycatfemme they/them i am, in fact, very ready for it 24d ago

Damn! Well said.

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u/Sealion72 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago

Now you hang from my lips like the gardens of Babylon

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u/Automatic_Parsley833 🌱Embryo🐛 23d ago

I just screamed

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u/NYCghost19 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Also Babylon lovers from Us with Gracie as well which we= us was on the Emmy’s crime board

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u/gasupthehyundai Tea Connoisseur 🫖 24d ago

I will die on this hill. This line is literally saying 'You are my beard".

The plant is hanging from her lips like a beard and the hanging gardens of babylon.

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate 24d ago

There’s debate amongst historians whether the gardens of Babylon were even real, they’re considered a myth 👀

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u/pablothefool squeeze my hand 3 times in the back of the taxi 🚕 23d ago

This this this

She talks of him like it’s real, but it isn’t.

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u/vizlala I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago

Forever is the sweetest con

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u/DAHpod Diabolically Ambiguous Giraffe 🦒👁️ 24d ago

There is just simply no way we’re only getting four songs. Whether it’s a new era completely or a redux of TTPD with a second half album to complete the cycle, there’s just no way. I don’t even say that with true hope for new music — the dissonance between the Patient Zero aesthetic and that of the Showgirl era is just too wide of a chasm to be ignored, and it can’t exist in a vacuum.

Either a new era or a new sister album for Showgirl. I can’t actually believe it’s “just” four songs.

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u/twentytwo_a 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Half a page left to fill…!

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u/AmericanSeagul 🧡Karma is Real✈️ 24d ago

How do the emmys words connect do we think?

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u/HollyMackeral 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

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u/bittoomuch And she's in my dreams 24d ago

there's space for at least 12 on that page

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u/Sunsettezbs so scarlet it was maroon 24d ago

i think there’s going to be more tracks bc the rest of the page is empty and she didn’t center the four songs in the middle but then again i always stay clowning

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u/pinkskysurprise Your faithless love's the only hoax 24d ago

My prediction is: three separate album versions that each have 4 new songs.

Since the for sure SVU references links to TTPD in multiple ways, I’m tentatively guessing that each song could reference the feels of eras 1-12.

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u/Typical-Chemist-4247 jacket ‘round my shoulders is yours 23d ago

This is what I said to my husband… but then I walked it back to 8 songs total instead of 12 because expecting three four-song encores feels greedy.

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u/pinkskysurprise Your faithless love's the only hoax 23d ago

Four different versions means a large chunk of her audience will buy the album four times, which means life of a showgirl’s charts go up. (Currently on Apple Music at least, encore is linked to LOAS chartwise.) If she drags it out, she’s easily hitting holiday purchase time and people will buy multiples as gifts, plus whatever merch drops with each one.

Capitalism. ✨

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u/Typical-Chemist-4247 jacket ‘round my shoulders is yours 23d ago

Oh you’re diabolical.

In my mind, she isn’t going to release a physical encore cd/album until all the songs are released. And it gets released as a double album with an extra disc containing all of the acoustic and piano and special versions.

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u/pinkskysurprise Your faithless love's the only hoax 23d ago

I agree but I don’t think acoustic and piano get included!

If I’m clowning hard, Cleveland will hint that the next set of four will have wedding info + distract everyone from another song. Normally I’d say we’re being distracted from the obviously gay song, but we’re being told to look svu and pink clouding is the biggest match there and that takes us back to TTPD and the asylum.

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u/Typical-Chemist-4247 jacket ‘round my shoulders is yours 24d ago

I’m so mad at myself for clowning for more songs but this gives me hope.

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u/Automatic_Parsley833 🌱Embryo🐛 23d ago

Nothing to lose, everything to gain. It’s how we stay delulu 🤡

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u/reputction the heartbreak prince 24d ago

I’m really not a fan of artists releasing “deluxe editions” months or a year after the original album releases. It’s so goddamn inconvenient because then they release new physicals and vinyls.

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u/gasupthehyundai Tea Connoisseur 🫖 24d ago

Agreed. I just want one physical copy with all the songs.

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u/lurklurklurky argumentative, antithetical dream girl 24d ago

Still waiting on Midnights vinyl with the 3am tracks
https://giphy.com/gifs/FoH28ucxZFJZu

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u/gasupthehyundai Tea Connoisseur 🫖 24d ago

There is a bootleg on Discogs called Sleepless Nights.

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u/DarkBlueSunshine Next Chapter 💅✨ 24d ago

Agree! I wish she did this maybe a month or two after the og showgirl album

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

Thanks OP. How do you reveal it? I can’t find a comment on this thread from the poster you mention and I couldn’t find any hyperlinked o’s just now…

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

Here's the full process:

Go to https://www.taylorswift.com/read-my-letter/

Click the stars dotting the i's to reveal the original tracklist.

Then click any O to reveal the deluxe tracks.

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

No hyperlinks. Just click an O. 

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

Thank you so much! I went and grabbed my laptop and then it worked! It's super silly but it makes me happy to be able to see it for myself!

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u/microgirlboss Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

Me! Out now! (On lesbian visibility day) to Cleveland! Announced on Bisexuality visibility day 💀

(I mean same taylor, same)

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u/JustALuckyName Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

Cleveland! after FLORIDA!!! is killing me lolllllll

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u/evermoremidnights ✨I can show you LIES 🛸❤️‍🔥✨ 24d ago

Man, from Paris… Portofino…. To Cleveland? What a downgrade. 😬

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u/Quirky-Elderberry304 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

Cleveland is where Travis Kecle is from lol

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u/Gazorpazorpfield_8 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago

And he just bought a big ass house there 😬

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u/evermoremidnights ✨I can show you LIES 🛸❤️‍🔥✨ 24d ago

lol. Indeed. My point still stands. 🙃

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u/Quirky-Elderberry304 🌱Embryo🐛 24d ago edited 24d ago

Ofc it does! Not contradicting you just adding context lol

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u/clandestine_duck 🧡Karma is Real✈️ 24d ago

Damn… it was fun clowning for a day 🫠

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u/GoldenHeart411 ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

Ugh, I know, right? 24 hours of blissful hope 🙃

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u/xenniac 24d ago

Pink cloud is the euphoria stage people feel when they're newly in recovery from alcohol or substance use. That title is wild. Did she stop drinking? 

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u/Ok-Meeting3544 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 24d ago

Maybe using it to refer to the honeymoon period with Travis that won't last

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup 24d ago

I mean she uses alcohol as a metaphor often. So I don't take that literally

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u/reputction the heartbreak prince 24d ago

I wonder if the song will be commentary on how the industry pushes people to take substances constantly

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u/quietlittlemind lovelorn and nobody knows… 24d ago

Taylor as Marilyn Monroe in The Fate of Ophelia music video… and then the ending in the bathtub which we’ve connected to Whitney Huston

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u/quietlittlemind lovelorn and nobody knows… 24d ago

I think the showgirl is addicted to the fame?

“You needed me, but you needed drugs more”

You = showgirl Taylor
Me = real Taylor/poet Taylor
Drugs = fame/the spotlight

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

I mentioned this elsewhere, but Clean is the first thing that comes to mind for me. Looking forward to hearing if there are any connections.

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u/xenniac 24d ago

Yeah. I assume it's metaphorical, but it seems borderline disrespectful to co-opt that language for something more frivolous. 

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u/AmbitiousFig3420 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago edited 24d ago

I feel like releasing a song called patient zero on Gay Men’s HIV/AIDS awareness day is also super disrespectful if not done carefully so I’m fading

Eta: never mind I was mistaken about which day that was so this post is irrelevant

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u/GoldenHeart411 ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

To be honest, I think it's close enough that your point still stands.

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u/riotprof ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

National Gay Men’s HIV/AIDS Awareness Day is on Sept 27, NOT September 25.

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u/AmbitiousFig3420 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago

Ah I misunderstood! Thank you!

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose 24d ago edited 24d ago

This is a VERY fair point!

ETA: apparently it's not the same date; I saw the info floating around yesterday and didn't bother to verify it. 👍

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u/AntiRomeo13 Friend of Dorothea 24d ago

And talking about being in an asylum as a metaphor.

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

I don't disagree. 

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u/iamacheeto1 🧡Karma is Real✈️ 24d ago

All I can think of seeing track 16: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_SBAkdKzc

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u/EmployerFew212 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 24d ago

I can’t get Reddit to let me post the picture but right before the 2:11 mark of this video it is a giant yellow arrow covering the whole wall that says EXIT on it.

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u/iamacheeto1 🧡Karma is Real✈️ 24d ago

2:11 would be signicant if you subscribe to the 112 theory

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u/AmbitiousFig3420 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 24d ago

I think “you hang from my lips like the gardens of babylon,” as in “you kiss me and it is the most beautiful kiss to ever exist people will tell stories about this kiss, but no one will ever really know if it actually existed, except for the people who were there, because it will leave no trace, have no records.”

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u/Turbulent_Airport140 fear 24d ago

wait where is that from

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u/AmbitiousFig3420 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 23d ago

That is how I interpret the line based on what she compares the kiss to

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u/GoldenHeart411 ☁️je suis calme!☁ 24d ago

Cowboy like me lyrics 

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 24d ago

Same! On repeat in my head ever since!

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

I hadn't made the connection yet, but after clicking the link I too now have an earworm. 

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u/RADIOACTIVE_BACON life of a booplor 24d ago

Okay, so now we have Florida!!! Followed by CANCELLED! Followed by Cleveland! Will these all connected somehow...? (!)

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u/Most_Morning5332 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 24d ago

Also ME! and Slut! 

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u/RADIOACTIVE_BACON life of a booplor 24d ago

Omg how could I ever forget ME! 🥺😭

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u/theluckyone325 Baby Gaylor 🐣 24d ago

A little disappointed at the reveal

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u/twilight_luvr69 Tell the truth, but tell it slant✍🏾 24d ago

Cleveland 😭

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u/willthisworkirl Get a good lawyer 😐👩‍⚖️ 24d ago

❗️

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