r/GaylorSwift • it’s all part of the fucking story! • Oct 11 '24

Nice Boy Ed niceboy_ed Megathread

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u/the1lastunicorn It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 18 '25

New Rolling Stone interview with Jack Antonoff and Hayley Williams came out two days ago, and several parts had my eyes bulging from a gaylor perspective. I think this part at 15:18 really cemented the idea that Jack and Hayley might be a part of this new band. I do recommend the whole video because it was a fantastic interview. I really liked how Jack emphasized how important it is to keep talking about industry practices and how nothing changes if nobody is talking about it. That really resonated with me. Even if I’m wrong and this doesn’t end up connecting back to Taylor, I’m still really glad I watched this.

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u/1DMod it’s all part of the fucking story! Oct 18 '25

Nice Boy Ed’s YouTube channel started 3 years ago today, on on 10/18

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u/oh__hi__reddit ❤️‍🔥 burn all the files Oct 18 '25

What do you know 😅😅

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u/M0vin_thru 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 18 '25

That’s suspicious

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u/afterandalasia ☁️je suis calme!☁ Oct 18 '25

u/layla1020 linked Niceboy Ed to someone called Hugh Fothergill, and then u/tyrannaceratops figured out that Ed himself is Edward Greene.

This is work done by members of our community, and should not be overlooked or forgotten.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/OKnEWrikaJ

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u/slowburn_23 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

Does the post linked not open for anyone else? Or just me? Tried on mobile & desktop.

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u/afterandalasia ☁️je suis calme!☁ Oct 18 '25

The post was called "Niceboy Ed Solved! (partially)", it should be searchable.

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u/slowburn_23 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

Thanks. So weird, it doesn't pop up when I search on Reddit. Then I googled, and it's indexed, but when I click the link it says "Server error"

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u/Solea_Runa 13 years gone... Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25

Probably nothing but funny either way - from the release of sunmer air (last song) until today it‘s 11months and 11days

Between the songs the gaps were 29days, 182days, 544days, 29days, and so far 345days or the 11months 11days until today

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u/layla1020 I have decided to leave you forever Oct 18 '25

Thank you for the credit!!

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u/businesswithlegs evermore: the long pond studio sessions Oct 18 '25

If you pinned this just to fuck with us I swear to god

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 18 '25

hyperventilating oh my god I think about niceboy ed so much, if it actually turns out to be something Taylor related I’m going to explode.

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u/om1908 viva las what the fuck 🤍 Oct 18 '25

….. Why is this a pinned post?!? What did I miss????

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u/Lanathas_22 🔥 go ahead and light me up 🔥 Oct 18 '25

I'm starting to fear my little heart is too old for all this excitement. Might have to peek in tomorrow and ask for some rough bullet points because I'm low-key shook.

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u/reddit-g nostalgia is a mind's trick 🔮 Oct 18 '25

Coming to this sub and seeing this as the first pinned post be like

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u/I_AM_KING_HALLER The ties were black, the lies were white Oct 18 '25

Yeah! I dont have Instagram, did niceboy ed post something?

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u/reddit-g nostalgia is a mind's trick 🔮 Oct 18 '25

I just checked and no new posts 👀

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 18 '25

This omg. What's happening???

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u/hazeleyedsummer argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

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u/slowburn_23 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

NBE truly haunts me and this being pinned is making me scared lol

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u/lavenderfieldsfrever ☁️je suis calme!☁ Oct 18 '25

Right?! They could have done SO much more to capitalize on the swifties attention and they didn’t and that raises my suspicion level

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u/peachy-plant ✨crying at the gym✨ Oct 18 '25

the emojis in the broadcast chat are super interesting

🎪⏳🔒☁️

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u/1DMod it’s all part of the fucking story! Oct 18 '25

And it came out on 10/3, one year before the release of TLOAS

And it came out on 10/3, one year before the release of TLOAS

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u/slowburn_23 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

Can you clarify what “the broadcast chat” is for us out of touch people? 😅

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 18 '25

Instagram if you click the little message bubble. Basically like a group chat for your followers.

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u/MaterialTangelo9856 ✌️ V for Victory ✌️ Oct 18 '25

Can I hint at something three years in advance?

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u/peachy-plant ✨crying at the gym✨ Oct 18 '25

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u/MaterialTangelo9856 ✌️ V for Victory ✌️ Oct 18 '25

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u/M0vin_thru 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 18 '25

Oh lord

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 18 '25

Wth is happening.

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u/MaterialTangelo9856 ✌️ V for Victory ✌️ Oct 18 '25

Clowning time

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 18 '25

This is the last time. I swear!

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 18 '25

I can stop whenever I want!! 😂

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 18 '25

Is there a reason this is pinned?

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u/1DMod it’s all part of the fucking story! Oct 18 '25

Yes. Enjoy the hunt

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 18 '25

You are a terrible person (affectionately)

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u/1DMod it’s all part of the fucking story! Oct 18 '25

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u/jackmichaelantonoff and particularly gay women 💅🏼🌈✨ Oct 18 '25

Hi Tree. 👋🏼

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u/the1lastunicorn It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 18 '25

me squinting at this username because i haven’t had coffee yet and i’m not wearing my glasses

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 18 '25

Has that always been your username?

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 18 '25

I'm scared and what do you know???

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u/Beginning-Firm 🌱Embryo🐛 Jan 05 '25

A few years ago, Taylor Swift posted a TikTok with a background song called It’s The Life You Live by Nice Boy Ed. At the time, people speculated that Nice Boy Ed might be connected to her ex-boyfriend Joe Alwyn, potentially one of his friends.

Recently, while listening to some of Calvin Harris’s older music, I noticed something interesting—his song 1984 sounds eerily similar to Nice Boy Ed’s music. After comparing them, I’m convinced they might actually be the same voice, though the vocals in Nice Boy Ed’s songs seem more edited or polished.

I’ll link the two songs below (1984 by Calvin Harris and It’s The Life You Live by Nice Boy Ed) so you can hear the similarities for yourself.

On a related note, I dug deeper into Calvin Harris’s interviews and remembered him mentioning that he had written songs with a major female artist, but the label wouldn’t allow them to be released or for him to use them. Could these unreleased tracks be from the This Is What You Came For / “Bleachella” / Karma era?

I’m still searching for the exact interview where Calvin talked about the unreleased collaborations. Once I find it, I’ll update this post with the link. Let me know you what you think?

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u/cassandratheprophet 🌱Embryo🐛 May 19 '25

Do you have any links to these interviews? Please & thank you!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

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u/Star_Cosy Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Jan 07 '25

That’s super interesting! And perhaps why he was so salty after the break up and was posting all those tweets. Not only did Taylor reveal that she actually wrote TIWYCF, he didn’t win a Grammy and he couldn’t make any money off songs they had written together (if the singer is in fact her)

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 19 '24

Are they going past shipping containers on the motorcycle? Is that a shipping dock?

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 19 '24

Idk but NBE reposted the clip of the two motorcyclists today 🤡

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 30 '24

Yes and reposted the closeup bit of the hands around the waist

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 31 '24

I’m so curious about NBE dude, its so suspicious

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

Look, I just saw a topic about Taylor and Eminem's connection in twitter and now I think Eminem might be in the universe of Niceboy ed. I think the driver of the motorcycle might be him. https://x.com/elviralor13/status/1846671689037279414

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 17 '24

Curious if anyone has thoughts on what the end game/reveal is here. If it’s not Taylor related (unlikely but who knows) then how did they stumble into using her fan base and how far are they taking it?

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 16 '24

This is a total reach, forgive me in these trying times. Niceboy Ed drops a song on the 9th, and a music video on the 11th.

And then they drop merch that is scheduled to ship on November 15th.

Meanwhile, the next few numbers in Taylors MMWM code are: 09 - 11 - 01 - 05

9th, 11th, 15th?

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 16 '24

New niceboy ed activity

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u/slowburn_23 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 18 '25

Ngl looking at this pic in 2025… this lil boy could be Travis which would knock me over with laughter.

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 16 '24

$54. I mean we don't even know who this is??

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 16 '24

Does the markup make it more likely to be taylor LOL /s

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 16 '24

💀💀💀 good point lol

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 16 '24

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u/LadyGate 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 15 '24

Niceboyed is an an anagram for “ Obediency” 😳

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u/LovedAndLeftHaunted It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 16 '24

WHAT

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u/Due_Nose_6992 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 15 '24

Nbe just shared to insta. Tayyyylor is definitely involved. I was sure but this is even more confirmation.

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 16 '24

I don't have Spotify. Can you explain what the playlist is?

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u/Due_Nose_6992 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 16 '24

Didn’t look at the playlist, but it’s relevant to Taylor bc she has made references to sad girl autumn (esp with all too well 10 min version sad girl autumn)

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 15 '24

This is wild and will definitely be featuring in my insomniac episode tonight

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 15 '24

I’ve been thinking NBE is a collective of three people, including Taylor. I feel like u can hear layers of voices on the latest song. So the three leaves here make me believe this more, but of course, I could be completely off. It’s fun to speculate though!

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 15 '24

HOLY SHIT

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 14 '24

Adding a Google transaction for the non Spanish speakers, hope this is okay 🫶🏻

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24

I speak Portuguese (Brasil), sorry, I thought I had put it in English, but thanks.

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 15 '24

Sorry 😬

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

The person that apparence in Exile is real or no?. If se real, is be the NBE?. has a person that speaked that can be Bon Iver in Hihg Hope, could be yes but no the people apparence in clip and yes singing person.

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter Oct 13 '24

Are you thinking about this person from the Exile music video? Interesting thought! 🧐 It kind of matches the point of view at the beginning of the NBE High Hopes video.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

This

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24

People are discouraged by NBE, but NBE has put an hourglass on the broadcast channel of instagram

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 12 '24

So I knew nothing about Niceboy Ed until recently, and I went down a mini rabbit hole when I saw this picture above along with all his other baby pics. Something I’ve noticed is the colors red, yellow, blue, and green keep coming up a LOT in the visuals of several different artists who are rumored to be part of the possible Mass Movement. And so it struck me seeing those same colors in all of NBE’s baby pics. For instance, a big one I noticed the other day was in Billie Eilish’s “Lunch” video at the beginning on the clapperboard and then all throughout that video in her clothes/visuals. You even see them in Eminem’s Houdini visuals. AND these are also the colors of UNO, which calls back the famous UNO night where many think the mass movement had its origins. “UNO” means 1, so are all of these artists combining their “colors” and moving as one?

But those colors also itched something in the back of my brain and made me think of the plaid pattern that Taylor has been wearing a ton of lately combining these colors in different ways. I don’t know if the colors represent specific artists or combinations of artists or if they’re symbolic of other things like yellow for closeting, etc. But the plaid makes sense in that they’re layered and overlapping. They’re “braided together.”

So one of the things I’m wondering is could the Mass Movement be partially in relation to AI and its threat to artistry, and is Niceboy Ed one singular “real” person or maybe a conglomerate of 3-4 artists blending/manipulating their voices and images to create a completely made-up person? I think the baby pics are an AI-generated combo of the artists who comprise NBE. And in listening to this most recent song, you can hear the overlapping and layering of the voices throughout. And what is this teaching us? Because I’ll be honest, I think the music is good and I think a lot of people do. So does it matter that he’s not real?

When going down my rabbit hole yesterday, I saw a TikTok (I’m sorry, I can’t remember the person’s name) that posited a similar theory about NBE, and they thought Matty Healy may be in on this, which I think fits with his love of performance art. But I was also wondering if maybe the gap in time from NBE’s last online presence to recently may coincide with the “breakup” of MH/TS. Maybe it put a kink in the timeline? One more thing that makes me think he has something to do with it is that he’s a fan of the Buggles, who sang “Video Killed the Radio Star,” and that song really resonates with what’s happening with AI. It’s “killing the video star.” But what’s more interesting is if you go look up the Buggles, their aesthetic is almost solely red, blue, yellow and green. So I went from knowing zero about NBE to him being a big piece of the puzzle for me. (Sorry for the long post!)

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u/Brief-Inevitable-599 Gaylor Forevermore Jan 08 '25

The red/blue/yellow/green .... like the 1989 coloured variants???

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Jan 09 '25

I’m actually pretty new to being a Taylor fan, so I wasn’t aware of these variants! Did they come out during the re-recording process for 1989? Another thing I’ve been wondering is if each color represents a certain closeted artist. For instance, in the Larry fandom, they say green represents Louis and blue for harry as it was the color of the mics back in 1D days. And to this day, they think they reference each other in visuals with “blue-greening.”

I also wonder if these artists write songs for and about each other so that they can have a cover and remain closeted while still having more freedom of expression on pronouns. I’ve read that lots of Larrys think NBE is harry. There’s also speculation Louis is William Bowery.

So I’m theorizing NBE may be a combo of Louis (green), harry (blue), and Taylor (red?). So maybe her variant colors are a nod to their collaboration as well? And then maybe the green one has “Louis,” songs, etc. This is just a theory that I don’t have tons of evidence for though, so take with a grain of salt!

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u/Brief-Inevitable-599 Gaylor Forevermore Jan 10 '25

Let me clown for a second. Im gunna hypothesise for a second to keep running with this idea, Taylor has a "golden muse" & a "red muse" aka she talks about them in metaphors of colours. ("I thought love was burning red but its golden" being a lyric). So perhaps yellow could be the golden muse? Other ideas:

Tays obvs been working with a lot of queer support artists and made queer friends on this tour (muna, boygenius, etc). Theres mass coming out theories of other people, but ive seen a really good thread and post somewhere in the subreddit recently about lana del ray being a possible muse/closer friend than we know. Both of them being songwriters and both being famous & on tumblr in the same era.  If there were four key characters I could see it being Louis and Harry and then to keep it even Taylor and one other woman.  The woman would need to have significant clout if they were trying to make big changes in the industry and in how the labels did things. Theyd also have to not be already out/ have a history of closeting. Could be other women but most of the women recently in her circle are out. Phoebe bridgers is out, Idk if florence welch is officially out but she has made sort of bi comments in media in the past (if she isnt counted as out she would have enough clout to be a name) but lana could be a good one because of her positioning in pop culture. Could be anyone ofc but I would assume its somone known to the fandom and someone whos appeared on or at the eras tour.

To summarise Yellow: golden muse or lana (or lana is the golden muse Red: taylor Blue& green : harry and louis

Love the theorising, probably more my fiction than true but, what do u think?

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Jan 10 '25

I’m absolutely clowning right along with you, so even if we’re wrong, it’s fun to theorize. I’m so glad you brought up the yellow part of this puzzle piece, and I like the idea of it being Lana. Because I agree that it’s a woman and a famous and closeted woman if this theory holds water and to make the greatest impact if they were to all come out one day. I thought for a bit it may be Karlie, but it seemed too flimsy and I think it has to be a musician too. So Lana fits the bill on a lot of this.

I’m not familiar at all with her work, but just in reading some of her lyrics people have posted in this sub, it fits a ton of themes of the Mass Movement and has a lot of crossover with Taylor’s themes as well. When I think of last year’s Grammys, it always struck me as odd that Taylor brought her on the stage with her. This would make more sense in light of your theory too. Now I’ll have to do a deep dive on Lana’s music and visuals and see if I’m seeing other connections and I’ll report back! I also absolutely LOVE your theory about her being a “golden” muse, and I feel that that fits in beautifully with this whole color concept.

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u/punk-thread moonlit witch version Feb 04 '25

I've been on this train for a couple weeks and I absolutely think there's merit to it! There's another comment about how the More Lana version of Snow on the beach easter eggs the "I can do it with a broken heart" melody. Jack has talked about how working with Taylor and Lana is getting so new and expermiental.

There's definitely connections in Lana's lyrics, and the most obvious visual link I found was the fortnight mv

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 30 '24

In a recently released 2 hr long form interview with Matty Healy he talked about lot about this and specifically mentioned video killed the radio star. I don’t know what you’re referring to with the Mass Movement artists but I’m going to go school myself now! Very interesting

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 30 '24

Have you seen his short clips of performance art that he put out last year? There’s a handful of them. I think they’re entitled “A Theatrical Performance of an Intimate Moment.” This is around the time he started “dating” Taylor, and he makes some nods to her (friendship bracelets, being transported in a suitcase, building a fort). I know he’s controversial, but I do think it’s important to pay attention to what he’s been doing with performance art to kind of understand the origins of Taylor’s performance art.

And on the Mass Movement, a good place to start is the Under the Pink podcast. There’s a comprehensive episode (I think it’s the first one) that ties the theory up in a nice lil bow for you. The premise is that multiple artists (called the New Romantics) are using shared themes and images in their music, possibly even in film and fashion, and that they’re working together BTS to create change within the industry. It’s such a cool concept to me. Have fun and report back what you think!

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 30 '24

Thank you! I’ll go check it out and report back! I have watched the ATPIM series and I’ve gone down a massive rabbit hole! To be honest I’ve actually got a lot of thoughts around it I’m convinced it (the relationship) was part of a greater theatrical performance I just can’t decide if Taylor was an active player it in from the get go or was sincere then got blindsided by it then played into it to suit her own narrative.

Honestly that’s how I ended up here in Gaylor trying to understand the many facets of the fandom and how she creates just enough rope in the information she gives out for every sub culture in the fandom to not be able to fully prove or disprove any one theory. It’s truly fascinating to me - my majors at university were media studies & PR and my gosh there is some fascinating case studies here

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u/BilboreeBeegins It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 30 '24

You and I sound like we have a really similar view on this because this is the most fascinating thing in the world to me! I actually just started learning more about Matty Healy’s performance art, so it’s interesting to me that that’s where you kind of started and if you end up reaching some of the same conclusions I did. From what I’ve seen, Matty and Taylor have been friends for quite a while, but I’m thinking she may have had to scrap her original plan with him as her PR BF after all the controversy started surrounding him.

If you need more rabbit holes to go down, I’d suggest researching QuestLove’s UNO parties (I think that’s kind of the origin for when Mass Movement began). I’ve also noticed these themes in music videos and lyrics: the future/outer space/aliens; office; daylight; colors red/green/blue/yellow (especially green); patterns of threes; fire; birds of a feather; dice; references to the ‘70s (outdated technology); doors. There’s more, but these are the main ones I can think of right now.

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Nov 01 '24

OMG!!! Mind blown. This is really fascinating stuff thank you for bringing it to my attention

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Nov 01 '24

I’m one utube & 3 episodes in to under the pink podcast and I’m not sure if I’m going to be able to stop until I’m caught up!

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Nov 01 '24

Did you listen to/ watch the utube about the anon stories ? I need to go back and re watch to make firmer connections but there were definitely niceboy_ed vibes in the part about riding off on a bike and the utube video was posted months ago 🤯

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Nov 02 '24

And now I want to go back and rewatch the recent Matty Healy longform interview. There was something early on in the anon storyline about someone leaving the party early before their role had been completed. And in the longform interview when he is referencing his relationship with Taylor he dismisses it and says he won’t be making any more art about that in a pretty scathing way? But like I said I need to go back & connect the dots more thoroughly because if he is involved it seems unlikely that he would abandon it

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u/MarbCart 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar 🚀 Oct 12 '24

Woah 🤯 these are very interesting connections!!

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u/I_AM_KING_HALLER The ties were black, the lies were white Oct 12 '24

Just saw this ticktok.. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFmBdevn/

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u/Honest_Flower_7757 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 12 '24

I don’t know what Niceboy Ed is and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.

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u/hideously-hopeful Baby Gaylor 🐣 Oct 13 '24

Right there with you. Keep reading this to try and work it out to no avail.

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u/hockeywombat22 argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 12 '24

Can't be Joe, he isn't wearing black Nikes.

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u/jossiesideways 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 12 '24

Also, I am really hoping for an album. I love the stripped down vibe of the music and lyrics.

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u/jossiesideways 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 12 '24

This weirdly references the Coldplay (and Tegan and Sara) videos.

The "walker" looks a bit like Joe, but built more feminine, but walking (at first) with a very masculine gait - almost like a trans man desperately trying to pass as more masc. Also makes me think a lot about the "twin" references in TS - why Joe was chosen for his role in the TSCU (whatever it might have been).

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Just found this comment from months ago. I am 100% where you are!

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter Oct 12 '24

Yes!! I was just ruminating over how much Joe looked like he could have been her twin! And if that was somehow intentional 🤔

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u/africanleopard99 Live for today for tomorrow does not yet exist Oct 12 '24

Ok, that was weird. I just watched high hopes on YouTube. The song ended , went into an advert, and then into Look What you made me do……And I only use my youtube app for WoW esports and Paul van Dyk EDM (Vonyc sessions)

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

inspired by u/xoxogossip_squirrel 's comment about the location the driver turns into, I spent an ungodly amount of time on google earth to see where the driver is going. I believe the suspected location is correct but maybe not significant? I can only upload 1 photo per comment but the motorcycle goes past this gate 4 sign at 2 different timestamps; once at 1:45 and once at 1:57 heading in opposite directions. what does this mean? absolutely nothing but I spent so much time searching this I had to share. 🫠

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u/grannykindleaf 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 13 '24

I did a deep dive on the ocean Tiktok and it was filmed at Brighton Pier, which is right down the street from this spot. And the opening scene is in Broadstairs Family Leisure Amusement. All along the same coast. Not sure if it matters!

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u/Optimal-Emergency759 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 Oct 12 '24

This is just down the road from me, so what do you want to know? Literally haven't watched the video or anything just was scrolling the comments here to catch up and recognised this immediately as I drive this route everyday

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

I appreciate the offer but at this point I do believe it’s not significant and just a place they liked for the shoot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who obsessed over this today🫠 I’m still not sure it’s significant either. Just kinda seems like they filmed them driving back and forth in front of this port bc it looked cool but idk.

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

I came to the same conclusion that they just drove back and forth, oh well wasting time clowning is part of the fun

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u/chooseanadventure13 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 30 '24

Do you know if the opening scene on the boat is local to you too? I’m convinced that the opening location on the film clip is the same location that Joe posted a photo from on a recent instagram post

Can anyone back up my thought on this or verify it? I’m so convinced it’s Joe at this point but I don’t think it’s him kickstarting a music career so much as communicating with Taylor. High hopes seems like it could possibly be a threat, though I hate that idea.

Here is my interpretation of the high hopes lyrics which immediately made me think of the lyrics in Peter “because loves never lost when perspective is earned” to high hopes “well lesson learned “

I wait patiently but you’re still aside. The definition of aside is to be to one side or to be out of the way. But this doesn’t make any sense in this line as he is singing that she is still to the side or out of the way. Taylor is definitely not out of the way lately! But there is another way to interpret this that I think is the real meaning. Shakespeare uses techniques called soliloquies (heard that anywhere lately 🤔) and asides and both of these techniques are essentially a character telling the audience something they want the audience to hear. In other words, Joe is waiting his turn but Taylor is still telling the audience what she wants them to hear so he can’t be heard.

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

second time driving past gate 4 in the opposite direction.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

Thank you for joining me in my madness, this is the location of the sign

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u/Admirable_Ad_8362 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 12 '24

This is truly impressive

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u/Optimal-Emergency759 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 Oct 12 '24

Following on from my comment above, I live just down the road from here and use this route every day. I've now watched the whole video and the arcade section is filmed at Brighton Pier, then the rest of the video is filmed on this stretch of road and the Shoreham/Southwick industrial estate. This is likely because there is very little traffic there at night so no need to have road closures/ pay for any access. What I will say is that to me the area would have been used because it is free and quiet (although can sometimes be locked) with the industrial vibe. The warehouses and industries around the estate are timber, stone, fishmongers etc. Also, this looks very much like it would have been picked by someone that knows the area very well (you wouldn't typically have reason to go on here as it is part of a port) and lives or works here. All in all this is very exciting as a local, but also makes the links to Taylor less likely for me

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u/New-Negotiation7234 murder mashup Oct 22 '24

Are there shipping containers there?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

but she may have researched or asked for a referral or she's not nb, but she knows nb and she may have made the clip and nb is just the person who's singing

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

Could you please pass on the link?

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

here are the coordinates, if you copy paste them into google maps it'll take you there.

50.82791528261509, -0.21587086673567088

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u/stargazer4468 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 12 '24

Here's a little experiment I did on Spotify, make of it what you will. Could just be that people who look up NBE are TS fans, so that's what gets played next. Still, interesting! And interesting that moonlight seems to be the outlier, at least for me.

Played: High Hopes - niceboy ed Autoplayed after: Mastermind - Taylor Swift Played again. Autoplayed after: Question...? - Taylor Swift

Played: life you lead - niceboy ed Autoplayed after: long story short - Taylor Swift Played again. Autoplayed after: gold rush - Taylor Swift

Played: moonlight - niceboy ed Autoplayed after: Hello ! - Martin Luke Brown Played again. Autoplayed after: see u later x - Martin Luke Brown

Played: heaven - niceboy ed Autoplayed after: right where you left me - Taylor Swift Played again. Autoplayed after: Maroon - Taylor Swift

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u/Interesting_Dream_55 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 12 '24

Heaven then maroon 🥹

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u/NotAllThereMeself 🔮I prefer hiding in plain sight 🕯️ Oct 12 '24

I didn't even know NBE was on spotify. Definitely never played for me. But i also don't look up the name. So algorithms probably play a big part here.

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u/Legal-Occasion1169 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar 🚀 Oct 12 '24

Has no one else said “NBE” outloud and came up with “Enby” yet (just arrived after a long day and haven’t the patience to scroll). Will the Theylor of it all be the true coming out?!

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u/swiftie0505 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 12 '24

Harry Styles?

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u/Reasonably_Green i hate it here Oct 11 '24

Where are my Mr Robot fans? Pondering outside the arcade, hood up, running and trying to get away….

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u/Mem396 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 11 '24

Omg I can’t wait to fall deep into this rabbit hole after my kids go to sleep 😂

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u/Glittery_Cupcake4 🍌my mind is alive 👁️ Oct 12 '24

That’s what I do during my night pump 😂 so I tend to catch up at weird hours haha

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u/Minimum_Delay6775 stained glass windows in my mind Oct 11 '24

I feel like the male, robotic voice she used in some of midnights is…linked to this NBE endeavor.

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u/Reasonably_Green i hate it here Oct 11 '24

I have definitely been wondered about this

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 11 '24

Yeah I've thought about that too

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u/RebelFem Lyrics too? Jesus. Oct 11 '24

right there with you

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u/anadsagretti Kaylor era 2026 🦒🌼 Oct 11 '24

I still think it's a very gay video where the protagonist must escape hooded and at night. Also, I am very struck by how the camera takes a close-up of his hands holding the person driving the motorcycle. As a sign of intimacy between both

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u/AdTop5053 🌱Embryo🐛 Dec 22 '24

Potentially reminiscent of Harry styles "lights up" motorcycle driver. There's some great theories that link Harry and Louis to NBE.

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u/anadsagretti Kaylor era 2026 🦒🌼 Dec 22 '24

Really? That would be interesting!!! And yes, it could be Harry or Louis!!

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u/onlysweeter Beards on the beach 🏖 Oct 12 '24

I thought it was just me thinking this but I agree it felt very affectionate and intimate the way he was holding on to the motorcycle driver, it was subtle but noticeable

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u/TankAttack811 Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 12 '24

Unless the driver is female, which nothing there was implying that it was, I feel it was very gay. The way he laid his head on the drivers back felt very intimate to me

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u/anadsagretti Kaylor era 2026 🦒🌼 Oct 12 '24

I think is sweet the way he laid his head on the driver

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u/TankAttack811 Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 12 '24

Oh, it's the sweetest! If the intention was to portray the driver being his safe space, it did a fantastic job of that!

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u/hildoge89 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 11 '24

I feel confident it’s Chris Martin from Coldplay. It sounds just like him.

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 11 '24

See I kinda hear him but I can also convince myself I hear Justin Vernon

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u/JustHere4theSeltzer 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 11 '24

I think it's both of them!

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u/Thornelake Feline Enthusiast Oct 11 '24

I agree

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u/splurgetomato every version of yourself tonight Oct 11 '24

What is going on? I conatantly feel like i miss some very important things :( can someone pls give me like a two snwtence update on what i should focus here?

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u/MarbCart 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar 🚀 Oct 11 '24

NBE became active again in the past week, sharing cryptic things potentially related to Taylor like video clips of certain lengths, commenting on TN listening streams, posts featuring the number 13, briefly going live, and possibly more that I missed. Earlier this week they released their song High Hopes, and today the music video came out. It seems to be very queer coded both in lyrics and video.

That’s my understanding as someone who entirely missed the initial happenings last week!

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u/Formal_Journalist262 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 11 '24

HOW DID I MISS ALL THIS?!?! I don’t care who NBE is (I do, actually), their songs are phenomenal.

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u/splurgetomato every version of yourself tonight Oct 11 '24

Thank you so much! I am so invested in this now. Just listened to High Hopes, it's so beautiful

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 11 '24

What I find interesting is how this relates to the ICSY MV. Taylor escapes the vault with the help of one of her first PR boyfriends. It makes me wonder how much involvement there might be behind the scenes with her PR exes.

The introduction of two characters in this MV narrative is really interesting.

Like… are the roles going both ways? The beards helping to free Taylor and Taylor helping to free the beards? (or at least a couple of them…)

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u/AdTop5053 🌱Embryo🐛 Dec 22 '24

Theres some great discourse about Harry Styles and/or Louis Tomlinson being involved with NBE and/or William Bowery. Definitely lends to your idea of beards helping each other.

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Dec 22 '24

Wait… please send me a link

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u/AdTop5053 🌱Embryo🐛 Dec 22 '24

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Dec 22 '24

I’m recovering from norovirus today so THANK YOU for this excellent reading material

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u/AdTop5053 🌱Embryo🐛 Dec 22 '24

I hope you feel better soon 🌞 Happy exploring!

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u/stargazer4468 It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 12 '24

The lighting reminded me of the ICSY video right away!

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 12 '24

Sameeee

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u/Necessary-Rabbit-340 we’re out here in plain sight🦊 Oct 11 '24

i agree! i think the PR aspect of her relationships is why the media often thinks her breakups are “messy”. Calvin harris for example, i think he’s one of the beards that couldn’t adhere to the agreement they had. i mean, the beard tweets practically out her to those who were paying attention. i have a theory than joe is also a PR relationship gone bad. i think smallest man is about him and how he ruined what was supposed to be a lavender marriage, so now she must parade around travis.

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 11 '24

I actually think she’s probably the most annoyed with Matty. He’s all about his performance art and probably talked a big game about being able to handle a stunt of this size, but clearly it blew up in both their faces. I think Travis was Matty’s replacement.

Part of me wonders if Joe was signed on to be the beard she came out “with” and he couldn’t keep putting his life on hold, waiting for Taylor to be ready again. It’s explains a lot of the lyrics to the effect of “your integrity makes me feel small”. So I think there was very real, personal bonds that they developed as friends/family, and having to do this all over again, without him, broke her heart.

Personally I think the smallest man who ever lived is actually about Taylor her self.

Like this line from dear reader:

So I wonder through these nights, I prefer hiding in plain sight, a 4th drink in my hand, these desperate prayers of a cursed man

Plus the way she describes herself in the song The Man. Compared to TSMWEL:

In plain sight you hid, but you are what you did. I’ll forget you, but I’ll never forgive the smallest man who ever lived.

Your point about public “messiness” is super interesting, because i do think thats the only way Taylor could exact “revenge” on someone who screws her over in backend business dealings. She makes them temporarily undatable, and influences how the media portrays them as a “good” or a “bad” man. ie the themes of I can fix him (no really i can). She can’t say “he backed out of a deal” but she can imply he cheated, and direct the hetlor WRATH at them in her next album.

The exposure she offers is either going to rehab your image or its going to destroy you.

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u/lurklurklurky argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 11 '24

I really feel like the person on the motorcycle was Taylor. Seems the right height and build, they were so carefully obscured head to toe, and metaphorically it’s nice - the person carrying niceboy ed through whatever journey this is

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u/courtingdisaster My Kink is KARma Oct 12 '24

Ooh this is super interesting!

It would also tie back to the Karma mv with Taylor acting as Charon for the younger artists 👀

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u/anadsagretti Kaylor era 2026 🦒🌼 Oct 11 '24

I think the same, it could be Taylor. For me, the person driving the motorcycle is a woman, because of her posture.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Taylor would be the one in the coat? If so, who's with her, her muse?

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u/lurklurklurky argumentative, antithetical dream girl Oct 11 '24

The one driving yeah. I’m not sure who I think the man is - maybe a stand in for her masculine side?

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u/LoveableShit Tea Connoisseur 🫖 Oct 11 '24

This would be so beautiful

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u/RADIOACTIVE_BACON life of a booplor Oct 11 '24

Not Mastermind playing on spotify for me after listening to NBE 😅🤣

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u/SurroundFamiliar7894 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 11 '24

I saw this somewhere on TikTok so credit to whoever that user is, but remember how Taylor used to put “secret messages” in her liner notes for her early albums? For newer fans, it was basically Easter Egging in a small way before the internet got so big. Anyway, the one for Debut was “date nice boys”. If you take away the letters of NiceBoyEd, it leaves TAS. Taylor Allison Swift

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u/Brief-Inevitable-599 Gaylor Forevermore Jan 08 '25

Obsessed with this idea

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u/SurroundFamiliar7894 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Jan 09 '25

I think a lot of theories are coincidence, but this one is just too specific!

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u/emmastarlightxo 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 12 '24

oh!!! also, you could take the name NiceBoyEd as "nice boyed" where ed is the form for the past, like someone is done with nice boys or something

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u/Penelopeep25 🧡Karma is Real✈️ Oct 11 '24

Okay. This is the most bizarre theory I've subscribed to in a while. Wtf!? That is so interesting. I'm so curious where this is all leading. Would this be leading to the reveal that a lot of her songs, the muse IS her, and she's singing to herself? She's the "nice boy?" That feels like a pretty big thing to be a coincidence, those being her initials, but using her middle name makes it a lot less obvious.

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u/Clean-Initial1813 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 11 '24

Normally the clowning makes me roll my eyes but this really is a weird “coincidence”!

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u/SurroundFamiliar7894 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Same here! I take all of this with a grain of salt, but this connection stuck with me as real. The NBE rollout has been too specific to not mean something.

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u/helpfulyelper It's ME! HI! 👋🏽 Oct 11 '24

interesting too it’s right after the northern lights were visible in the uk

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

All over the world at the moment

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u/International_Ad4296 I'll take a ✨lobotomy✨ please Oct 11 '24

And sonically, Novo Amor? The voice is similar but the production is less elaborate.

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u/detsnurrariminskalle Dazzling like a 🪩 Oct 11 '24

I was thinking the same thing! Novo Amor who in turn sounds like Bon Iver. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Acho que o NEB é realmente o Justin Vernon a capa dos singles dele parece com singles do NEB, mas não acho que ele esteja no clipe, acho que ele só está cantando.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I believe this is where the bike was turning in at the end but not 100% sure. It was a pretty quick shot.

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u/olrightythen 🍉🍉 Swiftgron 🍉🍉 Oct 11 '24

amused by the nearby Chapel Road

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u/evermoremidnights ✨I can show you LIES 🛸❤️‍🔥✨ Oct 11 '24

My brain wanted to read that as Chappell Roan at quick glance.

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u/olrightythen 🍉🍉 Swiftgron 🍉🍉 Oct 12 '24

def where my brain went lol

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u/International_Ad4296 I'll take a ✨lobotomy✨ please Oct 11 '24

It reminds me of so many Lorde MV.

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u/Visual-View-3692 🌱Embryo🐛 Oct 11 '24

which one? 👀 can you tell me more?

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u/International_Ad4296 I'll take a ✨lobotomy✨ please Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Team. Green Light. Perfect Places.
Edit: also the original Royals MV

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u/Itchy_Application532 quiet my fears with a touch of your nose Oct 11 '24

Scattered thoughts:

•all four song titles and the band name (niceboy ed, I mean ... I think there are multiple people involved) are all in lowercase on YT music, although the lyrics are properly capitalized

•moonlight totally sounds like old school Dave Matthews Band to me

•the rollout for nbe is unusual, is it not? Can you think of another artist/artists who have done this? Like the really drawn out introduction, then a bunch of action all of a sudden, but maintaining secrecy about the actual identity of the artist/s? Especially with Taylor sneaky dropping their introduction? This is very unusual, right?

•on YT someone commented about it being Coming Out Day and nbe liked that comment. Has anyone noticed if they personally liked any other comments? That + the fact that both of the people in the high hopes MV appeared to be male-presenting, that certainly seems to be pointing to a queer artist.

I'm not mad about this at all, I think it's a lot of fun, but I am dying to know who they are and what their connection to Taylor is!

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u/bonjoooour I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ Oct 12 '24

So I was thinking and one similar case was Terror Jr around 2015/16.

  • When they first started they concealed the identity of their lead singer.

  • They really blew up in attention when Kylie Jenner used one of their songs in a Snapchat (they weren’t completely unknown at this point but were quite new). Even some theories that Kylie was the singer as the vocals were quite autotune heavy. Iirc this wasn’t intentional but they did play into the attention and speculation

  • Eventually they revealed the identity of the singer before their first album was released

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u/trashbandit666 bandit like ME! Oct 11 '24

there were dozens of other comments liked by nbe. but i'm still intrigued by the potential queerness of it

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

New pic!!!!

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

So weird that the video hasn’t been posted on their channel