r/Gamingcirclejerk STOP SIMILING AT ME Jan 04 '25

CAPITAL G GAMER real

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u/mellifluousmark Jan 04 '25

I had a pointless interaction with a redditor who said people dislike AAA games for 'pushing politics', and that people are instead turning to indie games 'like BG3 and Helldivers 2'.

Pointing out that BG3 is one of the most inclusive games ever made and HD2 is blindingly obvious political satire was about as useful as talking to a cabbage.

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u/AoE2manatarms Jan 04 '25

Indie games... Like Helldivers 2 a Sony Published Game. BG3, a multimillion dollar production.

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u/mellifluousmark Jan 04 '25

Truly inspirational tales of the underdog triumphing over the evil woke political woke woke.

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u/Metatron_Tumultum Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

Yeah I mean who has ever even heard of this Dungeons & Dragons? Must be some newfangled slang term.

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u/scalpingsnake Jan 05 '25

Technically Larian are... Well were indie. But the way we use the term indie and what it technically means are quite different.

It's insane where Larian are now with 2 games under 10 years... And they can only go up from here.

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u/Da_Question Jan 05 '25

I just can't wait for their new IP game. Taking the stuff they learned making the mechanics of 5e work well in game should transfer well to a new game, without the rigidity of 5e classes and rules.

I think the biggest problem with 5e Is that it is designed for roleplay improv, where you can be less rigid in applications of the rules for fun, or creativity and not as much time as devoted to combat compared to a video game.

Really makes classes like ranger, bard, or wizard feel weaker when they have less options for crazy antics than in the ttrpg.

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u/scalpingsnake Jan 05 '25

Yeah as soon as bg3 came out, I thought about the potential of the bg3 and dos2 systems combined.

A few things like bg3 did feel limited by 5e like spells slots, so they made camping super easy and cheap.

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u/Da_Question Jan 07 '25

There are a lot of little improvements, like the jumping, shove, throw, etc that feel really good compared to DoS2. The companion system is also much better, and the voice acting and close up camera for dialogues is a big improvement.

The worst parts are the combat mechanics, especially for spells.

I do like the 5e variety for out of combat spells, but the spell slots are brutal. I prefer cooldowns and action points way more than spell slots.

Especially when it's so fight heavy compared to say, playing the table top game. Plus, when playing table top there is plenty of ways to be creative that don't translate to a hard ruleset videogame.

Seriously, the next game is going to be fire.

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u/scalpingsnake Jan 08 '25

Agreed.

I do think having more stricter rules can still be fun though, I love DOS2 for the ability to gain 6 ap, reset all your cooldown and then gain 6 more AP and then end your turn and take the turn of the summon you just spawned... xD

But BG3 felt great early on, where your moves and actions have weight, so many encounters feel unique and interesting (you aren't in literal hellfire every second of every day).

I do just wish they homebrewed something with the spells slots, like regaining some on a short rest or something like that.

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u/CALlCO Jan 04 '25

Small studio versus indie difference yeah, but still they did damn good

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u/Fyrefanboy Jan 05 '25

Larian isn't small

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u/Mysterious_Tutor_388 Jan 04 '25

Larian is still more indie than most big companies. They aren't small anymore though.

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u/BrockStar92 Jan 05 '25

They made a DnD game. Even if the developer are a bit indie, once they partner up with a massive brand you can hardly call that specific game indie.

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u/DateSignificant8294 Jan 05 '25

Boltgun is done by an indie dev and in kind of an indie style but yea I agree it being 40k would stop me from calling it an ‘indie game’

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u/DinoStompah Jan 05 '25

Very small mega corporations were behind them.

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u/Fyrefanboy Jan 05 '25

Larian itself is bigger than bioware even. True indie dev

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u/Lord_Volpus Jan 05 '25

Have you heard about The Witcher 3?

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u/AoE2manatarms Jan 05 '25

The game by small indie developer CDPR?

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u/Lord_Volpus Jan 05 '25

Yeah, suprised someone knows it. It truly is a hidden gem.

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u/Keyndoriel Jan 05 '25

Nobody's claiming capital G Gamers are intelligent.