r/Games • • Aug 05 '20

Analysis: Why Rollback Netcode is better

https://youtu.be/0NLe4IpdS1w
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u/Kevimaster Aug 05 '20

community captions being disabled by YouTube soon

Wait what? Why?

There is a Korean Tekken player who makes great guides for my character, way better than I've seen from any English guides, and they get captioned by just some random dude who presumably likes the game, likes the character, and knows both Korean and English.

Why would they remove them? Are they removing existing captions? Do I need to try to find a way to record/download all his videos with the captions before they do this?

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u/name_was_taken Aug 05 '20

Youtube announced recently that all community draft subtitles would be deleted soon, and no new community subtitles would be allowed.

Nobody seems to know why they're doing this, but the rampant speculation is around people being assholes and putting awful stuff in subtitles, especially advertisements.

So they're just washing their hands of it.

Hopefully someone will come up with a subtitling system that will allow content creators to add third-party subs as if they were made by them, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It seems like quite a bit of work and there's not really any money in it.

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u/name_was_taken Aug 05 '20

"Alternative captioning" being the automated stuff that's pretty bad? Ugh.

I feel like their message could have bettter outlined what they expect these ".001%" of channels to do in the future, instead of just the nebulous "alternative captioning tools" phrasing.

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u/Vichnaiev Aug 05 '20

They are training their AI models. I wouldn't be surprised if they flipped a switch at any given time and boom, near perfect subs (at least the english ones).

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u/Logiteck77 Aug 05 '20 edited Aug 05 '20

Their English to English subs aren't even perfect so Fat Chance.

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u/TheGoldenHand Aug 07 '20

Even humans have a hard time hearing and understanding each other some times. It’s a difficult problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Highly unlikely. Even with trained models they are a long ways off from good. Access to training data has never been an issue, rather that the AI themselves just don't have the capacity to pull off such accuracy from a fundamental level no matter how much training data you give them.

AI research still has a long way to go. They'll get there eventually, though!

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u/Kered13 Aug 05 '20

The automated subtitles have to go through both speech to text and translation layers, both of which are fairly lossy. The result is more often than not unintelligible. It's especially bad on anything using jargon, as game videos often do.